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[QUOTE=Big Al All day]I honestly think Butler and Granger are better then Marion. Butler was awesome without Gilbert there chucking up shots. This year yeah maybe ppg will go down but he is a pretty solid defender. I have Odom , Marion , Wallace , all ranked evenly. I forgot about Prince , I would rather have him on my team then any of the guys i just mentioned.
Edit: Marion only averaged 15ppg last year on a awful Heat team. Now with Wade and Beasly i don't see him averaging over 18ppg.[/QUOTE]
He played with a bad back, & without anyone creating shots, for him. Not to meantion that he had all the defense consintrated on him.
I see him averageing around 16 ppg, 9 rpg, 2 st, & 1 bs, shooting over 45 %, playing mostly SF.
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Why do people consistently bring this thread back! It sucks!
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[QUOTE=ronnymac]Butler is much better then marion. butler is a better shooter, defensivley he's just as good. people underrate carons defense. he's alot more mobile score. he has alot and i mean alot better handles. marion is a better rebounder though.i'll give him that much. i would say there is only 4 better SF's in better then butler.
LBJ
Pierce
Artest
Carmelo. carmelo is very much up for disscussion[/QUOTE]
How can you have Artest there? :no:
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guys, the op got banned because he was trash and so were all of his threads/posts including this one.
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[QUOTE=highwhey]guys, the op got banned because he was trash and so were all of his threads/posts including this one.[/QUOTE]
I'm sorry but a lot of ISH posters were banned for at least once so all their posts are trash as well? Good logic and enjoy the bash.
:cheers:
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[QUOTE=Lord Leoshes]How can you have Artest there? :no:[/QUOTE]
Artest the the best primeter defender in the nba. he is big and strong and yet agile like a cat. he also averaged 21 points and 38% from beyond the arc. he is versatile enough to guard the sg's, sf's and the pf's of our league. why shouldnt he be there.
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[QUOTE=EricGordon23]My List
1) Lebron James
2) Paul Peirce
3) Melo
4) Caron Butler
5) Ron Artest
6) Richard Jefferson
7) Josh Smith
8) Corey Maggette
9) Iggy
10) Gerald Wallace[/QUOTE]
I like everything about this list except the spelling, and Shawn Marion is missing. He's better than Wallace and Igoudala (who are so close in stats it's not funny) He's got to get one of those guys' spots, and there has got to be a better example of a small forward than Corey Maggette, or am I nuts? What about Luol Deng, Josh Howard or Tayshaun Prince? One more thing about Iguodala, he's a SG is he not?
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[QUOTE=ronnymac]Artest the the best primeter defender in the nba. he is big and strong and yet agile like a cat. he also averaged 21 points and 38% from beyond the arc. he is versatile enough to guard the sg's, sf's and the pf's of our league. why shouldnt he be there.[/QUOTE]
Cause they have him to high.
1 Lebron
2 Pierce
3 Butler
4 Anthony
5 Marion
6 Iguodala
7 J Smith/Prince
8 R Jefferson
9 J Howard
10 Artest
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[QUOTE=Lord Leoshes]Cause they have him to high.
1 Lebron
2 Pierce
3 Butler
4 Anthony
5 Marion
6 Iguodala
7 J Smith/Prince
8 R Jefferson
9 J Howard
10 Artest[/QUOTE]
Iguodala and Josh Howard over Artest, are u kidding?
:roll: :roll: :roll:
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[QUOTE=Kiddlovesnets]Iguodala and Josh Howard over Artest, are u kidding?
:roll: :roll: :roll:[/QUOTE]
Have you seen your list?
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[QUOTE=Kiddlovesnets]Iguodala and Josh Howard over Artest, are u kidding?
:roll: :roll: :roll:[/QUOTE]
Takeing into account age, & mental state, yeah. But all three are about even.
But Artest is that poisson that can destroy a teams season with just one of his stupid acts. I would take Iggy, & Howord befor Artest.
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If you're gonna talk out of you're ass, then back it up with facts.
1 Artest is 28 and in he's prime. hows age an issue. why is marion ahead of ron if age is such an issue.
2 Anyone who puts iggy and howard above artest is a dumbass. an utter dumbass.artest is head and shoulders above them on both sides of the ball. if were going by complete game, only pierce and lbj are the better players by that criteria. this thread or question is about the top ten SF's on the court. the off the court issues has no bearings here.non whatsoever.
3 Marion being better at what? artest is a much better defender and alot better offensive player. he is a better shooter to. rons's offensive game is much better then marion's. only thing marion does is rebound.Ron is alot more versatile on both sides of the ball.ron can defend the SG's, SF's and the PF's of the nba. marion can only go with the SF's and PF's. rons a much better three point shooter. ron is alot better at putting the ball on the floor and creat shots for himself.
On both sides of the ball, artest is one of the most complete players in the league.to be the best defensive player in the league and score twenty one points a game and shoot thirty eight % from beyond the arc warrant you to be in the top four or five best small forwards in the league.
I can understand maybe caron butler being infront of ron with LBJ, pierce and melo, but the rest of the list is a joke.
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[QUOTE=ronnymac]If you're gonna talk out of you're ass, then back it up with facts.
1 Artest is 28 and in he's prime. hows age an issue
2 Anyone who puts iggy and howard above artest is a dumbass. an utter dumbass.artest is head and shoulders above them on both sides of the ball. if were going by complete game, only pierce and lbj are the better players by that criteria. this question is the top SF on the court. the off the court issues has no bearings here.
3 Marion being better at what? artest is a much better defender and alot better offensive player. he is a better shooter to. only thing marion does is renound.he's alot more versatile on both sides of the ball.
On both sides of the ball, artest is one of the most complete players in the league.[/QUOTE]
+1
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[QUOTE=ronnymac]If you're gonna talk out of you're ass, then back it up with facts.
1 Artest is 28 and in he's prime. hows age an issue. why is marion ahead of ron if age is such an issue.
2 Anyone who puts iggy and howard above artest is a dumbass. an utter dumbass.artest is head and shoulders above them on both sides of the ball. if were going by complete game, only pierce and lbj are the better players by that criteria. this thread or question is about the top ten SF's on the court. the off the court issues has no bearings here.non whatsoever.
3 Marion being better at what? artest is a much better defender and alot better offensive player. he is a better shooter to. rons's offensive game is much better then marion's. only thing marion does is rebound.Ron is alot more versatile on both sides of the ball.ron can defend the SG's, SF's and the PF's of the nba. marion can only go with the SF's and PF's. rons a much better three point shooter. ron is alot better at putting the ball on the floor and creat shots for himself.
On both sides of the ball, artest is one of the most complete players in the league.to be the best defensive player in the league and score twenty one points a game and shoot thirty eight % from beyond the arc warrant you to be in the top four or five best small forwards in the league.
I can understand maybe caron butler being infront of ron with LBJ, pierce and melo, but the rest of the list is a joke.[/QUOTE]
Agreed. Artest is one of the most underrated players in NBA...
:sleeping
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[QUOTE=Kiddlovesnets]I'm sorry but a lot of ISH posters were banned for at least once so all their posts are trash as well? Good logic and enjoy the bash.
:cheers:[/QUOTE]
Speaking about good logic, you have none. Your list is ether biased or you are very ignorant. Your predicted stats are also a joke.