Four-team trade sending Hedo Turkoglu to Raptors and Shawn Marion to Mavericks done

The Orlando Magic have acquired a trade exception and cash considerations from the Toronto Raptors, and cash considerations from the Dallas Mavericks as part of a four-team trade, General Manager Otis Smith announced today. [B][URL="http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/../blog/?p=4537"]As part of a sign-and-trade deal, forward Hedo Turkoglu was traded to Toronto[/URL][/B]. [URL="http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/../blog/?p=4537"]InsideHoops.com[/URL]

[B][URL="http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/../blog/?p=4537"]Also included as parts of the deal - Toronto sends Shawn Marion, Kris Humphries, Nathan Jawai and cash considerations to Dallas, while[/URL][/B] also sending a future second round draft pick to Memphis; Memphis sends Greg Buckner to Dallas; Dallas sends Jerry Stackhouse and cash considerations to Memphis, while also sending Devean George and Antoine Wright to Toronto. [URL="http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/../blog/?p=4537"]InsideHoops.com[/URL]

already a thread on it

Dallas got Jawai in the deal as well? Wow, they got loads of depth at the 4 behind Dirk now.

[QUOTE=Hawker]No. We already saw what happened when Dirk played at C and Jamison at PF.[/QUOTE]

Jamison mostly played SF that year. The Mavs were rolling with Danny Fortson, Antoine Walker, Eduardo Najera and an injured Shawn Bradley for defensive purposes that season.

[QUOTE=Hawker]No. We already saw what happened when Dirk played at C and Jamison at PF.[/QUOTE]

If you read the whole thread you would understand. Anyway, Dirk will play C when they use their most effectiv lineup in kidd, terry, howard, marion and nowitzki to run and gun. Dirk will start at PF

[QUOTE=Scottish Pippen]
Although on paper they improved, I am not sure if Dallas surpased any of their rivals in the West. Lakers, [B]Spurs[/B], Nuggets and Blazers are still better teams to me.[/QUOTE]

How are they not better than a team that they beat 4-1 in the playoffs w/o home court? At the very least they equaled the Spurs moves.

[QUOTE=kentatm]How are they not better than a team that they beat 4-1 in the playoffs w/o home court? At the very least they equaled the Spurs moves.[/QUOTE]
Because the spurs were missing Ginobili and Duncan was slowed by injury. Now they are (in theory) healthy plus the got Jefferson. If you put a gun to my head and asked me who is better, I'd say SA.

[QUOTE=niko]Because the spurs were missing Ginobili and Duncan was slowed by injury. Now they are (in theory) healthy plus the got Jefferson. If you put a gun to my head and asked me who is better, I'd say SA.[/QUOTE]

The Spurs got that third seed with Gino hurt all year anyway. I am tired of hearing about Duncan being slowed by injury as an excuse when the Mavs beat him. If you watche dhim played he was hurting no worse than guys on every other team by that point of the year.

Besides, you really think Manu will suddenly have a fully healthy year? Never gonna happen with the way he plays.

Jefferson is easily canceled out by Marion's defense BTW.

[QUOTE=niko]Because the spurs were missing Ginobili and Duncan was slowed by injury. Now they are (in theory) healthy plus the got Jefferson. If you put a gun to my head and asked me who is better, I'd say SA.[/QUOTE]

Ok...maybe the Ginobili thing can be used as an excuse but whenever the mavs beat the spurs Duncan happens to always be "slowed by injury."

What a joke.

[QUOTE=Hawker]Ok...maybe the Ginobili thing can be used as an excuse but whenever the mavs beat the spurs Duncan happens to always be "slowed by injury."

What a joke.[/QUOTE]

i'm no spurs fan. But Duncan couldn't move well at all. Do you think he suddenly forgot how to play defense? The reason when the Spurs lose that there are injury excuses is because they always have someone hurt. its no knock on the mavs, they beat SA down like a dog. But Duncan WAS hurt.

I'm hardly the only person who thinks SA is better. It's because you can see how SA's pieces fit and Dallas, you are still not sure.

Jeff the post whore :oldlol:

[URL="http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=139076"]http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=139076[/URL]

[QUOTE=Brunch@Five]IMO that puts Dallas on Denver level. 2nd tier in the west[/QUOTE]

ehh.... Marion and Howard are the same player... where are they going to play them? Dirk at C??

I think there's still another move left from Cuban and hopefully it's for a true SG.

Maybe Redd or Rip? Which one would work better? I think Rip.

[QUOTE=niko]i'm no spurs fan. But Duncan couldn't move well at all. Do you think he suddenly forgot how to play defense? The reason when the Spurs lose that there are injury excuses is because they always have someone hurt. its no knock on the mavs, they beat SA down like a dog. But Duncan WAS hurt.

I'm hardly the only person who thinks SA is better. It's because you can see how SA's pieces fit and Dallas, you are still not sure.[/QUOTE]

What are you kidding? Duncan has never defended well against Dallas. Thats why the Spurs are consistantly scared of hitting the Mavs in the playoffs. The Mavs were built to specifically to beat the Spurs and it shows when they match up. They have never solved Dirk and now they traded away the one guy that ever had any success against him.

[QUOTE=niko]i'm no spurs fan. But Duncan couldn't move well at all. Do you think he suddenly forgot how to play defense? The reason when the Spurs lose that there are injury excuses is because they always have someone hurt. its no knock on the mavs, they beat SA down like a dog. But Duncan WAS hurt.

I'm hardly the only person who thinks SA is better. It's because you can see how SA's pieces fit and Dallas, you are still not sure.[/QUOTE]

Duncan has been "hurt" the past few years. It's not gonna change