[QUOTE=Locked_Up_Tonight]Not if you go by stats or by gamewinners.
And also all the game winners as well?[/QUOTE]
Game winners is just a fraction of clutchness, and stats don't describe Kevin McHale.
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[QUOTE=Locked_Up_Tonight]Not if you go by stats or by gamewinners.
And also all the game winners as well?[/QUOTE]
Game winners is just a fraction of clutchness, and stats don't describe Kevin McHale.
[QUOTE=KobeDaMamba]Dirk would feast in the 80s. Perimeter defense was terrible with guys sagging off like 3-4 feet off their man. Dirk would rain treys all day. Shots werent heavily contested either. All teams wanted to do was RUN N GUN. Dudes like English,Gervin, King and Dantley were droppin 30 ppg on 50+ shooting. Defense in the paint was better and games were phyiscal. Thats not Dirks game, tho. Dirk > McFail. Dirk is one of 5 guys in history to average 25/10 in the playoffs.[/QUOTE]
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[quote]Game winners is just a fraction of clutchness, and stats don't describe Kevin McHale.[/quote]
So stats describe Nowitzki?
If Dirk was all about stats, he would've padded his stats a long time ago. He is one of the very few superstars today that could care less about stats. And does quite a few things to not accumlate stats in the long run.
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STFU clown. You're probably one of those retards picking the old school player just to earn a old school rep.
This is a no brainer.
Give me the German.
McHale is one of the greatest PFs of all time but Dirk is a legend.
[QUOTE=Yung D-Will]So Just because he hasn't lose a game 7 we're gonna ignore things like the Golden state year and the Heat year? :oldlol:[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=KobeDaMamba]STFU clown. You're probably one of those retards picking the old school player just to earn a old school rep.[/QUOTE]
I damn sure don't want to be known as some old school cat. But Dirk kill in the 80s? Oh my lord...
[QUOTE=Locked_Up_Tonight]So stats describe Nowitzki?
If Dirk was all about stats, he would've padded his stats a long time ago. He is one of the very few superstars today that could care less about stats. And does quite a few things to not accumlate stats in the long run.[/QUOTE]
First, Kevin McHale was the Celtic's sixth man for 8 of his 13 seasons. McHale was also a superb defender, a trait that stats only partially describe. His duty was to always guard the opponent's best frontcourt scorer, and he did a hell of a job at that. Dirk is just an alright, if that, defender. He was also a tenacious rebounder, but he played with two of the leauge's best rebounders, Parish and Bird.
If I'm picking a player to build around, I'm going with Kev. To win a championship you must have: a very good low post player or Michael Jordan. McHale fits the bill. Dirk is more of a perimeter player. Don't worry. If I was to pick the more talented player, oh Dirk no doubt. He's much more versatile. But McHale was so good at what he did, that it edges him past Dirk in my mind. And here's another a question to leave you guys. If I'm a big man, who would I'd be more scared to guard? A ferocious low post scorer that commands double teams or a man who prefers to hang around the perimeter? Just think about it.
[quote]First, Kevin McHale was the Celtic's sixth man for 8 of his 13 seasons. McHale was also a superb defender, a trait that stats only partially describe. His duty was to always guard the opponent's best frontcourt scorer, and he did a hell of a job at that. Dirk is just an alright, if that, defender. He was also a tenacious rebounder, but he played with two of the leauge's best rebounders, Parish and Bird.
If I'm picking a player to build around, I'm going with Kev. To win a championship you must have: a very good low post player or Michael Jordan. McHale fits the bill. Dirk is more of a perimeter player. Don't worry. If I was to pick the more talented player, oh Dirk no doubt. He's much more versatile. But McHale was so good at what he did, that it edges him past Dirk in my mind. And here's another a question to leave you guys. If I'm a big man, who would I'd be more scared to guard? A ferocious low post scorer that commands double teams or a man who prefers to hang around the perimeter? Just think about it.[/quote]
So you agree that Dirk is the better player, but you would rather choose Kevin McHale to build around because he is easier to build around.
That is the funny thing about ISH sometimes:
A poster asks who is better? 99% of the posters say: Player X but they would rather have Player Y... so they choose Player Y.
[QUOTE=Locked_Up_Tonight]So you agree that Dirk is the better player, but you would rather choose Kevin McHale to build around because he is easier to build around.
That is the funny thing about ISH sometimes:
A poster asks who is better? 99% of the posters say: Player X but they would rather have PlayerY... so they choose Player Y.[/QUOTE]
More talented does not mean better...
[quote]More talented does not mean better...[/quote]
Then what makes Dirk so much more talented than McHale? You say he was......
[QUOTE=Locked_Up_Tonight]Then what makes Dirk so much more talented than McHale? You say he was......[/QUOTE]
He has more of a variety of skills. However McHale is so great at what he does, that it overpowers Nowitziki's balanced skills.
[QUOTE=White Chocolate]Dirk has the longevity, but McHale shits on him defensively. McHale was also the more [B]clutch[/B] of the two. My vote is for Big Kev.[/QUOTE]
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Dirk Nowitzki: 24 votes
Kevin Mchale: 18 votes