What is Kobe's legacy if he beats Miami's big 3 in the finals?

Honestly Kobe fans, what do you guys want us to say? Kobe won't beat the Heat by himself. I would even say that Pau Gasol is as big as a factor as Kobe is.

[QUOTE=whatever666]Kobes legacy will be just the same as if he beat the Pacers in the finals... which means another championship.... somewhat increased legacy ofcourse, its as simple as that, this is a team accomplishment, a championship.

The only way Kobes legacy will be increased individualy is if he outperforms Lebron & Wade in the Finals.... which i highly doubt he will, at least not outperform Lebron, Lebron has outperformed Kobe more than vice versa playing against him... if they meet in the playoffs, Lebron will go on a berserker mode, he wont let that chanse slip away,[B] he is much more hungrier than Kobe ever was for a championship and as you can see Lebron is willing to give up anything for that, his money[/B], his home, his "the man" status and his fans... he wants to dismantle Kobe right here and right now... that is the last step he has to take before he officialy is undebatably the best player in the world right now if he dismantles the Lakers in the Finals.[/QUOTE]

He is coward.

He is no where as hungry as Bryant, the guy had the best team record wise and gave up in game 5....

[QUOTE=game3524]He is coward.

He is no where as hungry as Bryant, the guy had the best team record wise and gave up in game 5....[/QUOTE]
Yeah, he's not hungry at all for Championships. Thats why he made this risky move, made himself one of the most hated players and risked his brand just cause he's not hungry at all. No no..

[QUOTE=Nash]Yeah, he's not hungry at all for Championships. Thats why he made this risky move, made himself one of the most hated players and risked his brand just cause he's not hungry at all. No no..[/QUOTE]

Guys who are hungry show it on the floor, Lebron didn't.

[QUOTE=Nash]Yeah, he's not hungry at all for Championships. Thats why he made this risky move, made himself one of the most hated players and risked his brand just cause he's not hungry at all. No no..[/QUOTE]

The guy quit while being on the best team in the East, he is coward and couldn't handle being the guy.

[QUOTE=All Net]Guys who are hungry show it on the floor, Lebron didn't.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, cuz for 7 years, all those point, all those awards and back to back MVP titles, he didn't show anything on the floor. He was just planning his move to Miami for 7 years. Thank you for telling me that, Kobe fan.

[QUOTE=Nash]Yeah, cuz for 7 years, all those point, all those awards and back to back MVP titles, he didn't show anything on the floor. He was just planning his move to Miami for 7 years. Thank you for telling me that, Kobe fan.[/QUOTE]

Guys who badly want to win would of showed more will to win and not give up in the playoffs. Lebron is a great player but his hungry to win has yet to be proven.

[QUOTE=game3524]The guy quit while being on the best team in the East, he is coward and couldn't handle being the guy.[/QUOTE]
Being on the best team in the East? He was the sole reason why they were the best team in the rest. What you don't get is that without him they are a crap team and everybody is going to see that next season. Stop hating.

"Couldn't handle being the guy", I love that logic. So before Kobe got Pau, he couldn't handle being the guy right? But all of a sudden, when they got him Pau, he magically became the guy. Great.

[QUOTE=All Net]Guys who badly want to win would of showed more will to win and not give up in the playoffs. Lebron is a great player but his hungry to win has yet to be proven.[/QUOTE]
Check the game against Detroit in 07 and tell me if he isn't hungry.

[QUOTE=game3524]He is coward.

He is no where as hungry as Bryant, the guy had the best team record wise and gave up in game 5....[/QUOTE]

Hes a coward? Why?

Kobe had good players on his team.
Jordan had good players on his team.

before it even starts ill just
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.... every good player in history who had good players on their team.

Lebrons old team was dead weight. And he carried them for years. Your a coward for not understanding him going where he belongs. With Champions. He served the paupers long enough.


And @ OP im gonna say it like this, they are going to crush the lakers.

[QUOTE=All Net]Guys who badly want to win would of showed more will to win and not give up in the playoffs. Lebron is a great player but his hungry to win has yet to be proven.[/QUOTE]

So why did he move to Miami?

[QUOTE=plowking]So why did he move to Miami?[/QUOTE]
The move to Miami showed that he was scared of losing; it didn't show he wanted to win.

If he had stayed in Cleveland and gotten beat year after year even having HCA, it would have proven he didn't have what it took to win. So he took the gimme instead. That's not the move of a hungry competitor, it's the move of a guy afraid he can't be the man.

I don't understand some people. The people who say the Lakers are heavy favorites over the Heat next season are the same people that say if the Lakers beat the Heat, then Kobe has a case for GOAT.

If Kobe's team is superior to the Heat as a lot of people claim, than why would beating an inferior team like the Heat propel Kobe over Jordan?

[QUOTE=barbaroi][B]The move to Miami showed that he was scared of losing; it didn't show he wanted to win. [/B]

If he had stayed in Cleveland and gotten beat year after year even having HCA, it would have proven he didn't have what it took to win. So he took the gimme instead. That's not the move of a hungry competitor, it's the move of a guy afraid he can't be the man.[/QUOTE]

Yeah...It could mean that he was scared....But at the sametime it shows that he's putting his personal stats, and accolades, aswell as possibly his legacy, and multiple fans...Just to win a title.

It can go both ways.

[QUOTE=dyna]I don't understand some people. The people who say the Lakers are heavy favorites over the Heat next season are the same people that say if the Lakers beat the Heat, then Kobe has a case for GOAT.

If Kobe's team is superior to the Heat as a lot of people claim, than why would beating an inferior team like the [B]Heat propel Kobe over Jordan[/B]?[/QUOTE]

Pretty sure no one said it would get him over Jordan...It would help his legacy...Meaning, move him from 10,9,8...To top 5 or so....There's nothing he can do to become better than Jordan.

I mean...If he wins like 6 finals MVP's which would mean like 9 titles...Ends with more All-NBA, Defensive, All-Star, Total Playoff Points and Reg Season pts...He would have a case...But still prob fall short.