Exposing the Fallacies of Science/Atheist-ism & Proving Intelligent Design!

[QUOTE=TennesseeFan]Nick is a good friend of mine, and he saw the dead guy walk out of the room. The guy has spoken at church events and stuff. I can get his name and everything.[/QUOTE]
And nobody ever makes things up to swindle people out of money.........:rolleyes:

[QUOTE=TennesseeFan]No John saw those things HIMSELF. And Luke interviewed people who were healed by Jesus. HEALED. Personal testimonies of HEALING. You do not make stuff like that up. That is too detailed to be conjured out of thin air.[/QUOTE]

Well, the balloon boy and his family swore that they didn't plan a hoax either, so those people "might" have been fibbing too broski.....and I use the word might very cautiously. The end result is jail time for mama and papa.

[QUOTE=boozehound]and you are full of it. Just from the wiki wiki wack, you can clearly see that the oldest dated scrap of the bible is from the first half of the 2nd century AD.
[URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biblical_manuscript#Dating_the_New_Testament_manuscripts"]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biblical_manuscript#Dating_the_New_Testament_manuscripts[/URL][/QUOTE]
again, any evidence for earlier dates than this? Or will you just ignore it? Anyhoo, Im done with this thread.

[QUOTE=boozehound]and you are full of it. Just from the wiki wiki wack, you can clearly see that the oldest dated scrap of the bible is from the first half of the 2nd century AD.
[URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biblical_manuscript#Dating_the_New_Testament_manuscripts"]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biblical_manuscript#Dating_the_New_Testament_manuscripts[/URL][/QUOTE]

Those are the dates they were found, not written.

These are the dates they were written, determined by scholars (not just run-of-the-mill middle class Christians, but highly intelligent professors and apologeticans.

[QUOTE=Bladers]i'm a fu[COLOR="black"]c[/COLOR]king idiot[/QUOTE]

yes i know.

do you actually think i'm going to waste my time responding to all that tripe?

this thread is a damn mess.

[QUOTE=lurch67]And nobody ever makes things up to swindle people out of money.........:rolleyes:[/QUOTE]

Nick isn't like that. You would have to know him. Hes the kind of guy that would sell his house and everything he owned for the betterment of mankind. And all his events he has spoken at have been non-profit. You probably won't believe it, because this is over the internet, but if you were here and knew him you would think differently about it.

[QUOTE=TennesseeFan]Those are the dates they were found, not written.

These are the dates they were written, determined by scholars (not just run-of-the-mill middle class Christians, but highly intelligent professors and apologeticans.[/QUOTE]
uh, so, where are the earlier radiocarbon dates? and, no those are the estimated dates of the writing, based on either paleography of the script or actual radiocarbon dating of the cellulose. why dont you bother reading the link before dismissing it.

Again, I wait with baited breath for any citation (even from a crockpot) with earlier RC dates for NT manuscripts.

[QUOTE=chungerball]Well, the balloon boy and his family swore that they didn't plan a hoax either, so those people "might" have been fibbing too broski.....and I use the word might very cautiously. The end result is jail time for mama and papa.[/QUOTE]

Yes, all the accounts and testimonies of being blind, tormented, dead, and lepers are all a coincidence :facepalm

You don't make stuff like this up. No one is that creative.

[QUOTE=TennesseeFan]Nick isn't like that. You would have to know him. Hes the kind of guy that would sell his house and everything he owned for the betterment of mankind. And all his events he has spoken at have been non-profit. You probably won't believe it, because this is over the internet, but if you were here and knew him you would think differently about it.[/QUOTE]

You are correct sir. I don't believe it, just like how I don't believe in the resurrection of Jesus. I would certainly believe if he came back to life as a zombie because that would be the only logical answer here.

[QUOTE=boozehound]uh, so, where are the earlier radiocarbon dates? and, no those are the estimated dates of the writing, based on either paleography of the script or actual radiocarbon dating of the cellulose. why dont you bother reading the link before dismissing it.

Again, I wait with baited breath for any citation (even from a crockpot) with earlier RC dates for NT manuscripts.[/QUOTE]

"Traditional views assume that the bulk of New Testament texts date to the period between AD 45 and AD 100, with the Pauline epistles among the earliest texts. Other views may pre- or post-date the individual books by several decades. [B]The earliest preserved fragment for each text is included as well.[/B]"

Look they were written and found in [I]fragments.[/I]

[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Papyrus_64[/url]

Hundred or so years later. Thats when they were [I]found.[/I] Not written. The earliest preserved fragments are the earliest fragments found and later they found others and comprised all the fragments together. They didn't rip up papyrus and write on different little pieces of paper.

[QUOTE=TennesseeFan]Yes, all the accounts and testimonies of being blind, tormented, dead, and lepers are all a coincidence :facepalm

[B]You don't make stuff like this up. No one is that creative[/B].[/QUOTE]
Again, whole industries have been made by people who are that creative.

[QUOTE=chungerball]You are correct sir. I don't believe it, just like how I don't believe in the resurrection of Jesus. I would certainly believe if he came back to life as a zombie because that would be the only logical answer here.[/QUOTE]

Not really logical at all. There are way more testimonies about the human heartbeat stopping and becoming functional again (whether it be a second to a few hours to several days) to the 0 amount of testimonies of zombies.

[QUOTE=lurch67]Again, whole industries have been made by people who are that creative.[/QUOTE]

60AD-90AD Western Asia and Middle East wasn't exactly your modern-day American entrepreneurial market land.

[QUOTE=miller-time]yes i know.

do you actually think i'm going to waste my time responding to all that tripe?

this thread is a damn mess.[/QUOTE]

The thread is a mess because your fallacies are being exposed.
Its either God or you create a bunch of fabricated theories to fill in the blank.
There is more proof for God than against him. Infact, there is no proof and I mean none against the existence of God.

[QUOTE=TennesseeFan]60AD-90AD Western Asia and Middle East wasn't exactly your modern-day American entrepreneurial market land.[/QUOTE]
But people were just as creative back then.