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[QUOTE=donald_trump]he was 215 coming into the league and now hes 225. i know right, you cant gain 10lbs without peds. :rolleyes:[/QUOTE]
think about a 16 oz steak, then multiply that by 10, then convert the steaks to muscle.
10 pounds is a lot of muscle.
[QUOTE=juju151111]Mj has a rookie was skinny and so was Kobe,LJ,Bosh etc....[/QUOTE]
look at his facial features. the change is inexplicable outside of HGH.
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[IMG]http://www.nba.com/media/allstar2006/wade_300_051203.jpg[/IMG]
compared to
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That's some serious shit right there. Lebron has the same issue.
Genetics. He starts puttin weight on and it goes to his cheeks. He's probably 20-30 pounds heavier than he was in his rookie year so...
How is that surprising?
It happens to plenty of NBA players with large body sizes as they get older. They keep their body in shape, but their face gains weight with age.
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Webber in 1993'
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Webber in 08'
While some of those are potentially side effects of hgh, I doubt he would be on crazy amounts.. Normal dosages of hgh or certain anabolics are amazing for injury recovery, and especially muscle recovery!!
Also you have to realize that it's been a while since wade was a rookie. Most adults put on weight/ size into there late 20s, and for professional athletes with great diets and all the time to train it's not hard to add muscle..
Obviously a lot of NBA players are using supplements, but I don't think it's as bad as other pro sports. The shit Rashard Lewis got done for was lame as, not even a steroid!:roll:
[QUOTE=Rowe]How is that surprising?
It happens to plenty of NBA players with large body sizes as they get older. They keep their body in shape, but their face gains weight with age.
[img]http://rushthecourt.net/mag/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/cwebb-michigan.jpg[/img]
Webber in 1993'
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Webber in 08'[/QUOTE]
Wade isn't anywhere near as old as Webber was in 2008.
Am I the only one who doesn't really care if Wade used HGH or not? All I want to see the guy do is play at a high level. Entertain me. What you do your body and the risks associated is your business and your problem. Hopefully you know what you are doing and don't ruin your career and body in the process.
[QUOTE=thejumpa]Am I the only one who doesn't really care if Wade used HGH or not? All I want to see the guy do is play at a high level. Entertain me. What you do your body and the risks associated is your business and your problem. Hopefully you know what you are doing and don't ruin your career and body in the process.[/QUOTE]
So you don't care if others wreck their health, cheat, and ruin the integrity of the game... as long as you're entertained.
And they wonder why the world hates Americans and thinks of us as selfish pricks.
lol Chris Webber had that Martin Lawrence syndrome
[QUOTE=CyberRambis]So you don't care if others wreck their health, cheat, and ruin the integrity of the game... as long as you're entertained.
And they wonder why the world hates Americans and thinks of us as selfish pricks.[/QUOTE]
Amazing isn't it.
[QUOTE=CyberRambis]So you don't care if others wreck their health, cheat, and ruin the integrity of the game... as long as you're entertained.
And they wonder why the world hates Americans and thinks of us as selfish pricks.[/QUOTE]
If he simply used HGH to recover from a significant injury, then no I don't care.
[QUOTE=thejumpa]If he simply used HGH to recover from a significant injury, then no I don't care.[/QUOTE]
LOL. Now you changed it up from "I don't care" to "As long as it's just to recover". Nice backtrack.
Even so, how is it any less cheating if it's just used for recovery? If you're popping pills and recovering twice as quick as clean players then those drugs are putting you at a major advantage. It's the definition of cheating. Just because it's used to recover doesn't make it any less so.
[QUOTE=CyberRambis]LOL. Now you changed it up from "I don't care" to "As long as it's just to recover". Nice backtrack.
Even so, how is it any less cheating if it's just used for recovery? If you're popping pills and recovering twice as quick as clean players then those drugs are putting you at a major advantage. It's the definition of cheating. Just because it's used to recover doesn't make it any less so.[/QUOTE]
What a pansy. :roll: