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[QUOTE=ShaqAttack3234](couldn't think of one argument against him for either MVP)[/QUOTE]
Funny, cause I can ... 2009 Dwyane Wade.
MVP, best team record in the East and/or the League and you get booted int he 2nd round in 6 games?
Yeaaa ... :oldlol:
I def think it you can make some arguments for other people. My man always busts his nut in the regular season.
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[QUOTE=Kurosawa0]Clearly not. :oldlol:[/QUOTE]
2 Finals MVPs, 2 Championships in a row ... yea, point proven.
[QUOTE=Samurai Swoosh]2 Finals MVPs, 2 Championships in a row ... yea, point proven.[/QUOTE]
If you wanted an award for inflated stats due to ball domination, where numbers are put up in meaningless stretches ... then yea, LeBron is easily the best player in the league. It has yet to translate to winning basketball for him, however.
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[QUOTE=ShannonElements]:oldlol: As if your quote of what he said was correct...[/QUOTE]
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ThdvEq--YY[/url]
[QUOTE=Samurai Swoosh]2 Finals MVPs, 2 Championships in a row ... yea, point proven.[/QUOTE]
He has the best team. No one questions that. Has he been the best player over the last few years? Absolutely not.
[QUOTE=ShaqAttack3234]Yeah, Lebron says stupid shit, and this was funny, too, but I separate Lebron the person, from Lebron the basketball player. I mean, the guy is great on the court, the best player in the league the last couple of years(couldn't think of one argument against him for either MVP) and a historically great player.
Very few have ever been at the level Lebron was the last 2 years.[/QUOTE]
I wish LeBron would develop his post game. Heat needs to hire Hakeem Olajuwon or Bill Walton next summer.
[QUOTE=Lebron23]I wish LeBron would develop his post game. Heat needs to hire Hakeem Olajuwon or Bill Walton next summer.[/QUOTE]
It would make Miami so much better too. With his strength and speed, he'd force double teams every time.
[QUOTE=Samurai Swoosh]Funny, cause I can ... 2009 Dwyane Wade.[/QUOTE]
Then LeBron gets it 2008.
[QUOTE=Kurosawa0]Then LeBron gets it 2008.[/QUOTE]
Not even close, LeBron groupie
Kobe Bryant / Chris Paul were the only legit options in 2008. Maybe a case could be made for KG. But his case isn't as strong as Bryant and Paul's.
Kobe should've been MVP in 2006, and 2007.
[QUOTE=Kurosawa0]He has the best team. No one questions that. Has he been the best player over the last few years? Absolutely not.[/QUOTE]
Not in the regular season, but easily the best player when it matters IN THE PLAYOFFS.
Yes, he has the best team. Why? Because he can mesh his talents with other superstars.
We're still seeing if LeBron can do that, and so far he hasn't been. And as of right now, on paper the Heat have more TALENT than the Lakers. You have 2 of the games top 3 players ...
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^ this man does have a point here
[QUOTE=Samurai Swoosh]Kobe Bryant / Chris Paul were the only legit options in 2008.
Kobe should've been MVP in 2006, and 2007.[/QUOTE]
How do give it to Kobe in 2008 if LeBron put up better stats? That's the argument you're making for Wade.
You can't say Wade is the 2009 MVP without giving it to LeBron in 2008 too.
LeBron put up 30, 7 and 9 in 2008. Wade put up 30, 5 and 7 in 2009. The Heat won 47 games in 2009, while the Cavs won 45 in 2008.
LeBron carried his team just in the same way that Wade did his, but put up better stats.
[QUOTE=Samurai Swoosh]Not in the regular season, but easily the best player when it matters IN THE PLAYOFFS.
Yes, he has the best team. Why? Because he can mesh his talents with other superstars.
We're still seeing if LeBron can do that, and so far he hasn't been. And as of right now, on paper the Heat have more TALENT than the Lakers. You have 2 of the games top 3 players ...
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Can you really even say he's the best player in the playoffs? He wasn't this year. Rondo was easily the best player through the first three rounds and then, well, I don't think you want to bring Kobe's performance in the Finals into this.
He hasn't dominated like you're trying to portray. The Lakers have been the best team, and Kobe has been ONE OF the best players. He hasn't been undeniably the best at any one point. LeBron, Wade, Durant, Howard etc. You can argue Kobe over them in some cases, but not all. Kobe's not the clear-cut #1 by any means. Each of those four guys can claim to have played better than Kobe at some point over the last few years.
[QUOTE=Kurosawa0]How do give it to Kobe in 2008 if LeBron put up better stats? That's the argument you're making for Wade.[/quote]
Ahhh kiddies. Fans of LeBron show their age and obsession with numbers.
It's about context. Look how Wade played, and look who he played with. Wade's cast is light years worse than what LeBron had in Cleveland.
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[QUOTE=Kurosawa0]You can't say Wade is the 2009 MVP without giving it to LeBron in 2008 too.[/quote]
No, cause CP3 did more with less and put damn impressive number himself. And Kobe carried the Lakers well before they even acquired Gasol, then meshed well enough with Gasol to become the 2nd best team in the league.
That simple.
2008 MVP is a toss up between CP3 and Bryant. They went with the team with the better record.
2006 and 2007 Kobe was easily, and clearly the league best player.
[QUOTE=Kurosawa0]Can you really even say he's the best player in the playoffs? He wasn't this year. Rondo was easily the best player through the first three rounds and then, well, I don't think you want to bring Kobe's performance in the Finals into this.[/quote]
You really think Rondo > Kobe in the Playoffs?
If that is the case there is no point even discussing this with you.
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