Id say no grown person who has tried to live in the real world thinks 200k is needed t get by in America. The movie? People would...as I said...lower prices of everything.
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Id say no grown person who has tried to live in the real world thinks 200k is needed t get by in America. The movie? People would...as I said...lower prices of everything.
[QUOTE=ConanRulesNBC]And you know how many players probably get FREE tickets for their family and friends? You really think LeBron James actually pays for his mother to sit court side during the games?[/QUOTE]
Couldnt speak on individual players. I can say for a fact many many many many players buy a lot of tickets for fans and family. There are guys who have spent 50 thousand dollars bringing a gang of people out to see them play. Especially the big events.
Well, movie ticket prices should be lowered.
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basketball is something used by the people for nothing but amusement. you take it away and we quickly find a replacement, therefore it is expendable. if you really want to break it down, 90% of the players in the league would be nothing without the nba. they are intellectually inferior, non-charismatic, and come from nothing where the majority of their peers are in jail or dead by 40. what we are doing for them is essentially charity.
their product is not something we require. it is not food, or electricity, or medical care. we pay for something we enjoy, not require. and therefore the league HAS to cater to the people, otherwise the demand for the product will relinquish with our leisure going towards something else.
the die hards, like those that post on internet message boards, will come back; but eventually you hit a point where the casual fan(which makes up 95% of sports fans) doesn't care anymore and that is when the nba dies.
^^ Makes good points.
As someone from the kind of place NBA players come from...
Most of my friends are not dead or in jail and those who arent 40 arent likely to be by then.
And charity? Paying to be entertained is not...charity.
[QUOTE=28renyoy]basketball is something used by the people for nothing but amusement. you take it away and we quickly find a replacement, therefore it is expendable. if you really want to break it down, 90% of the players in the league would be nothing without the nba. they are intellectually inferior, non-charismatic, and come from nothing where the majority of their peers are in jail or dead by 40. what we are doing for them is essentially charity.
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Interesting idea. So basically you are saying that:
1. There is a group of people, who are the world's top .0000000000001% at a very lucrative line of work.
2. This lucrative line of work exists and generates billions of dollars in revenue world wide.
3. If that line of work doesn't exist, they cannot use their unique and sublime talent.
4. Therefore these people are useless and money we pay to access their talents is charity.
Seriously, though. Please think before you post.
[QUOTE=28renyoy] if you really want to break it down, 90% of the players in the league would be nothing without the nba. they are intellectually inferior, non-charismatic, and come from nothing where the majority of their peers are in jail or dead by 40. what we are doing for them is essentially charity.
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That sounds like a racist post to be honest. It's sad that you have this point of view and just because someone comes from a lower social-economic status it doesn't make them dumber than anyone else or non-charismatic...
Just because not everyone can afford courtside seats doesn't mean the prices aren't fair.
[quote=28renyoy]basketball is something used by the people for nothing but amusement. you take it away and we quickly find a replacement, therefore it is expendable. if you really want to break it down, 90% of the players in the league would be nothing without the nba. they are intellectually inferior, non-charismatic, and come from nothing where the majority of their peers are in jail or dead by 40. what we are doing for them is essentially charity.
their product is not something we require. it is not food, or electricity, or medical care. we pay for something we enjoy, not require. and therefore the league HAS to cater to the people, otherwise the demand for the product will relinquish with our leisure going towards something else.
the die hards, like those that post on internet message boards, will come back; but eventually you hit a point where the casual fan(which makes up 95% of sports fans) doesn't care anymore and that is when the nba dies.[/quote]
yet they have a skillset and are in a line of work that less than 1% of the population can perform. There's a reason why they are paid so much. Employees have just as much of a right to find competitive suitors that are willing to pay for their talents and abilities just as much as employers have a right to find competitive employees that are willing to work for them.
John Amaechi completely slayed this argument on ESPN today. Hopefully someone posts it on Youtubee so I can link it here. In short, he touched on the same issues that I did regarding pro athletes having great power of influence, and choosing not to use it, or choosing not to use it to institute positive change... or instead using it to sell sneakers and jerseys.
[QUOTE=Kevin_Gamble]Interesting idea. So basically you are saying that:
1. There is a group of people, who are the world's top .0000000000001% at a very lucrative line of work.
2. This lucrative line of work exists and generates billions of dollars in revenue world wide.
3. If that line of work doesn't exist, they cannot use their unique and sublime talent.
4. Therefore these people are useless and money we pay to access their talents is charity.
Seriously, though. Please think before you post.[/QUOTE]
Without the league, the players value to society diminishes almost entirely. And what do they do for society? They entertain us. It is not something required, we watch basketball strictly for amusement. When you have something that elastic, you must appease the public no matter what. This is a matter of simple economics.
The players are defined by the fans in every way. Just look at Tim Tebow. An average NFL player, statistically speaking, yet he had the top selling jersey in the NFL. It's not about performance or output, but appealing to the fans and at this point the NBA is not doing that.
Most of these players are uneducated and without playing a sport they wouldn't be anywhere right now. They'd be working in factories or McDonalds. The only reason most of them get through school is because they can play a sport. Not because of how smart they are.
[QUOTE=bdreason]John Amaechi completely slayed this argument on ESPN today. Hopefully someone posts it on Youtubee so I can link it here. In short, he touched on the same issues that I did regarding pro athletes having great power of influence, and choosing not to use it, or choosing not to use it to institute positive change... or instead using it to sell sneakers and jerseys.[/QUOTE]
A lot of these athletes "give back" when it comes to helping their image. Other than that, they don't give a crap about anyone else. All they care about is owning 5 mansions, buying half a million dollar cars, $100,000 diamond earrings or watches, spending $250,000 in one night at a bar.