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[QUOTE=Timmy D for MVP]Nooooo. No sir. You were nearly there:
The business is to make money. Lets never forget that. It often gets lost how much money turns this entire world. Sports are no different.[/QUOTE]
Yes, but either way, the Hornets are screwed dude. Paul either gets traded to another team for pieces....he walks on that team after this season, and NO and the other team are left where?
In the SAME situation as with THIS trade...The difference being, he would have signed with LA. And THAT is where the issue lies here....the owners are TIRED of LA contending.
I mean really.....is any other trade, short of them landing another mega-star going to help the Hornets with their attendance?\
Or, even him walking for absolutely nothing?
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[QUOTE=oh the horror]I honestly wouldnt mind him on the Nets. I'd love to have them actually be a good squad headed into BK.
I just want a damn jersey that has "BROOKLYN" on it.[/QUOTE]
As a Nets fan, the best part for me is that they would be getting 2 stars together who compliment each other so well. They could actually be the best duo in the league in terms overall talent, age, health, and ability to compliment each other. Wade and James are always stepping on each other's toes, getting in each other's way, and diminishing each other's impact just by the nature of their games. They're still awesome, but they'd both be better off paired up with other players. That's completely the opposite of the case with a potential Williams and Howard duo.
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[QUOTE=monkeypox]what's so hard for us to understand? The league came out and said it had nothing to do with ownership! So what can't you understand? The block was made by Stern as the commissioner, not as Stern the owner (which he isn't). So tell me again why it matters that the Hornets are owned by the league if the league comes out and says ownership has nothing to do with it? Get it?
Here again... Stern... blocked.... this... trade... as... commissioner. Something he can do to ANY team if he feels necessary. So following this guideline if he's going to be consistent he MUST block the DH to Nets deal. Get it? Ownership has nothing to do with it.[/QUOTE]
He needs to be more consistent then.
What happened when Gasol was gifted to the Lakers?
SMH
This is probebly the first time a player was blocked when being traded. The underlying fact being the team is owned by the NBA.
I honestly doubt the NBA/Stern blocks the DH deal. If they did, then it would be intruiging to know their reasons behind blocking the trade.
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Chris Paul to the Clips, Dwight to the Nets. How cool would it be to have LA and New York rivalries?
Re: Nets have emerged as favorites for Dwight; Howard expected to ask for deal there.
[QUOTE=NoGunzJustSkillz]well in all fairness the nba did release an official statement saying Stern veto'd the trade and the owners had no input whatsoever.[/QUOTE]
Ya, if I was a commish in charge of a proff business I'd probably say the same exact thing. He can't let the masses know that the owners can completely dictate his choices. He's suppose to be the voice of reason. Anyways that's what I'd assume, just my opinion tho.
However there's not ONE single thing to gain by saying .. nah L.A you can't have Paul. The NBA LOVES it when the Lakers compete. Why not stop Gasol from going to L.A? Would have had less media attention doing so. Paul's a bigger star. Lockout just ended, all eyes on you. Why wait to f*ck over the Lakers now? There's no logical explanation.
Yet if you look at the NBA owning the Hornets? It makes tooo much sense NOT to be true. Seriously like the Hornets dump Paul before the training camp even starts? Why the f*ck wouldn't you wait atleast 15 games until things unfold and you can see where you stand. Maybe you make a playoff run, maybe a team realizes they need to shake shit up. You don't dump your franchise player without careful thought .. esp when the owner of your team is the f*cking NBA.
I honestly wouldn't be surprised to see the deal be tweaked with NO taking less money back, maybe another prospect from a third team(maybe a Budinger?) and Paul still ending up in L.A. It's just going to be a delicate situation and interesting because it's something we've never seen. A top 5 player on a team owned by the league.
Hornets GM bitching explains everything. Dude clearly knows he has no final say in the situation and the NBA is going to decide what happens. Sucks for the Lakers because they won the sweepstakes, isn't a plot against them just a shitty situation.
Nowhere near similar to Howard, who will go wherever he and the Magic owner wants to send him.
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Im sure they could get better than Lopez and 2 firsts. Who wants a C that averages 5 boards a game? Especially right after you had Dwight.
Im sure a lot of teams could offer more than that.
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So if the Nets win championships first do the Knicks fans jump ship?
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[QUOTE=B-Easy8]Im sure they could get better than Lopez and 2 firsts. Who wants a C that averages 5 boards a game? Especially right after you had Dwight.
Im sure a lot of teams could offer more than that.[/QUOTE]
Bulls: Noah, Deng and Taj Gibson.
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[QUOTE=ConanRulesNBC]Bulls: Noah, Deng and Taj Gibson.[/QUOTE]
Orlando should take that package and run.
That is way better than anything anyone else is offering, just wondering if Paxson has the balls to do it.
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[QUOTE=ConanRulesNBC]So if the Nets win championships first do the Knicks fans jump ship?[/QUOTE]
Fake ones will, yes. Real ones won't.
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[QUOTE=oh the horror]Yes, but either way, the Hornets are screwed dude. Paul either gets traded to another team for pieces....he walks on that team after this season, and NO and the other team are left where?
In the SAME situation as with THIS trade...The difference being, he would have signed with LA. And THAT is where the issue lies here....the owners are TIRED of LA contending.
I mean really.....is any other trade, short of them landing another mega-star going to help the Hornets with their attendance?\
Or, even him walking for absolutely nothing?[/QUOTE]
My personal take is that they aren't worried about attendance in NO. I think they are resigned to NO being done. I think they are trying to out together a team that will attract the best buyers, who will then move the team elsewhere. And so they feel they're going to need a superstar of some kind. I doubt it'll be Paul unless they already have someone lined up to buy but I think they are going to try to find a marketable player to put in his place.
Again I don't think it has anything to do with them worrying about the team, but a business as a whole.
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Bulls or Nets IMO is where he will End up..
Re: Nets have emerged as favorites for Dwight; Howard expected to ask for deal there.
[QUOTE=NuggetsFan]Ya, if I was a commish in charge of a proff business I'd probably say the same exact thing. He can't let the masses know that the owners can completely dictate his choices. He's suppose to be the voice of reason. Anyways that's what I'd assume, just my opinion tho.
However there's not ONE single thing to gain by saying .. nah L.A you can't have Paul. The NBA LOVES it when the Lakers compete. Why not stop Gasol from going to L.A? Would have had less media attention doing so. Paul's a bigger star. Lockout just ended, all eyes on you. Why wait to f*ck over the Lakers now? There's no logical explanation.
Yet if you look at the NBA owning the Hornets? It makes tooo much sense NOT to be true. Seriously like the Hornets dump Paul before the training camp even starts? Why the f*ck wouldn't you wait atleast 15 games until things unfold and you can see where you stand. Maybe you make a playoff run, maybe a team realizes they need to shake shit up. You don't dump your franchise player without careful thought .. esp when the owner of your team is the f*cking NBA.
I honestly wouldn't be surprised to see the deal be tweaked with NO taking less money back, maybe another prospect from a third team(maybe a Budinger?) and Paul still ending up in L.A. It's just going to be a delicate situation and interesting because it's something we've never seen. A top 5 player on a team owned by the league.
Hornets GM bitching explains everything. Dude clearly knows he has no final say in the situation and the NBA is going to decide what happens. Sucks for the Lakers because they won the sweepstakes, isn't a plot against them just a shitty situation.
Nowhere near similar to Howard, who will go wherever he and the Magic owner wants to send him.[/QUOTE]
Look, I'm not saying the crybabies had nothing to do with it. But if you're going to come out and say you did it for basketball reasons, then you need to keep to that. If it's going to be about who cries the loudest, then just cop to that and enforce it that way. Either way, functionally what Stern did could have been done whether the NBA owned the team or not right? All the ownership situation did was add some fuel to the fire. So again, why is it so important that the league owns the Hornets when this all could have still happened if the League didn't own the hornets?
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[QUOTE=chazzy]inb4 Stern[/QUOTE]
:roll:
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Year of listening to offers for Dwight and losing him for nothing in summer 2012.
or
Trading him away for nothing right now...sorry Brook Lopez right now.
Besides MAYBE not the best idea to DEMAND a trade to a specific team, cause that commish does not likey player tampering these days. :lol