[QUOTE=BGriffin's Dad]if I extend my arms while standing still and you lunge toward me, would you also call that a shove?[/QUOTE]
if you extend them and it knocks me over as a result? yes
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[QUOTE=BGriffin's Dad]if I extend my arms while standing still and you lunge toward me, would you also call that a shove?[/QUOTE]
if you extend them and it knocks me over as a result? yes
That was so soft I can't believe anyone would bring it up again after the game.
I'm a big Griffin fan but this ain't cool. If he wants to throw his weight around he should pick on som eguys his size. also, him and Lebron should have a flop-off. Weak stuff.
Look to me more like griffen was like half assedly paying attention while trying to like half catch morris for some reason, he wasn't really pushing him, but because he just kind of put his arms out to half catch him then he kind of pushed outwards it was sort of :wtf: don't do that man, even though nothing happened
[QUOTE=SourGrapes]if you extend them and it knocks me over as a result? yes[/QUOTE]
if I already have them extended and you jump into them? then your definition of a shove is incorrect.
Blake was standing there with his arms extended forward, and Darius collided with them... the force was not generated by Griffin, it was generated entirely by Darius and his momentum after the dunk.
a shove would be Blake using his arms to actively push Darius (i.e. putting his hands on Darius first and [I]then [/I]extending them) and the result would have been far more ugly.
I remember Andre Miller laying out MoPete when he was on the cavs
[QUOTE=BGriffin's Dad]if I already have them extended and you jump into them? then your definition of a shove is incorrect.
Blake was standing there with his arms extended forward, and Darius collided with them... the force was not generated by Griffin, it was generated entirely by Darius and his momentum after the dunk.
a shove would be Blake using his arms to actively push Darius (i.e. putting his hands on Darius first and [I]then [/I]extending them) and the result would have been far more ugly.[/QUOTE]
griffin moved his arms toward morris and that movement caused morris to fall down. shove
force doesn't have to be generated by griffin. and i think it was
[QUOTE=SourGrapes]griffin moved his arms toward morris and that movement caused morris to fall down. shove
[B]force doesn't have to be generated by griffin[/B]. and i think it was[/QUOTE]
It really does... if that had been a brick wall there in place of Griffin's arms, the end result would have been similar.
but obviously a brick wall has no ability to shove. Morris collided with Blake's already extended arms, not a shove. i'd accept "laws of physics" though.
I was pissed when Blake shoved Morris for no reason. I don't give a shit about the whole "if they're gonna play after the whistle, I'm gonna defend after the whistle" crap. He could've potentially injured the guy!
I'm glad Andre Miller shoved his ass back, though. He deserved that.
I don't hate BG, but I really do hope he messes with the wrong player one day and gets his ass put in check mode.
He should be picking on guys his own size, anyway. Plenty of them in the L. No need to be shoving guards around. :rolleyes:
:oldlol: @ the Lakers fans selective memory in this thread.
U know what's funny? Griffin is always shovin, but whenever someone shoves him back he puts up his arms and the announcers always say ''This young man is growing up in front of our very own eyes. look at the maturity of Blake Griffin.'' LOL
:oldlol: @ the only people defending Blake are posters who have "Griffin" in their usernames
[QUOTE=BGriffin's Dad]It really does... if that had been a brick wall there in place of Griffin's arms, the end result would have been similar.
but obviously a brick wall has no ability to shove. Morris collided with Blake's already extended arms, not a shove. i'd accept "laws of physics" though.[/QUOTE]
haha terrible analogy. if someone placed a brick wall there, the person who placed it there would be in the wrong.
this is the equivalent of "my arms are swinging and if you hit them it's your own fault" bullsh*t that second graders pull.
when griffin initiated the action of moving his arms has nothing to do with the final result.
if griffin always walked around with his arms like that, every single moment, and did the same thing to morris, it wouldn't change anything. still a shove, and still an unnecessary, dangerous move
[QUOTE=BEAST Griffin]:oldlol: @ the Lakers fans selective memory in this thread.[/QUOTE]
bynum's move was a dick move too.
your point?
[QUOTE=Doranku]When you take into account Griffin's dirty play, CP3 and Griffin's incessant flopping, the annoying fans, and the fact that Mo Williams is on the team, it's becoming very easy to dislike Flop City.[/QUOTE]
its all good as long as they beat good ol Purple & Gold.