Why is Kobe considered inefficient?

[QUOTE=ZenMaster]You're wrong, FT/FG(free throw rate) is very important because there's a direct correlation between amount of free throws shot and games won.

Even though you're talking about the same scorer [B]he was still a better shooter one year, and a better scorer the other.[/B][/QUOTE]


PLEASEEEEE......:no:

Your not a better scorer when your shooting worse in all aspects of the game...

SHOOTING = SCORING...you can't score if you can't shoot....

The refs giving Kobe an abnormal amount of foul shots, doesn't make a Kobe a better scorer. He simply was getting calls.

NO ONE is gonna call a player who shoots worse than another guy in every aspect a better scorer cuz the refs give him whistles....:sleeping

[QUOTE=bwink23]

The refs giving Kobe an abnormal amount of foul shots, doesn't make a Kobe a better scorer. He simply was getting calls.
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No, he was attacking the basket more and was more athletic. He was past his physical peak in 09. 09 Kobe isn't getting to the line 10 times in 05

bwink23 is a fool

[QUOTE=bwink23]PLEASEEEEE......:no:

Your not a better scorer when your shooting worse in all aspects of the game...

SHOOTING = SCORING...you can't score if you can't shoot....

[B]The refs giving Kobe an abnormal amount of foul shots, doesn't make a Kobe a better scorer. He simply was getting calls.

NO ONE is gonna call a player who shoots worse than another guy in every aspect a better scorer cuz the refs give him whistles[/B]....:sleeping[/QUOTE]


Apparently that's your perception of how officiating in basketball works.

My perception is that players work and set themselves up for opportunites to draw fouls, it's something they along with how the team plays offensively affect.
Some players try and create contact and finish through it, others try to shy away from it to get a cleaner shot with less chance of a fouls.

Like I said, try and coach a basketball team from the philosophy that free throws are random and see how far you get.

... Cos he's got smaller mits than Mike.

Kobe is inefficient because he takes dumb shots that go in like 1/3rd or less of the time. Rational people know if Kobe didn't play so stupid a lot of the time, he could be shooting over 50%.

-Smak

[QUOTE=ZenMaster]Apparently that's your perception of how officiating in basketball works.

My perception is that players work and set themselves up for opportunites to draw fouls, it's something they along with how the team plays offensively affect.
Some players try and create contact and finish through it, others try to shy away from it to get a cleaner shot with less chance of a fouls.

Like I said, try and coach a basketball team from the philosophy that free throws are random and see how far you get.[/QUOTE]


Just, just STOP IT.....:facepalm :facepalm

The impact officiating has on foul calls is far more profound. How many FT's does Durant lose without the "rip-thru" move eliminated this year??

I don't care WHO you are....the amount of FT's you get doesn't determine your efficiency as a scorer. PERIOD>:hammerhead:

Anyone can tell their team to attack the basket and go for more foul calls....that doesn't change anything about a player's scoring abilities. Usage rate and officiating determines foul attempts, not players.

Haters gonna hate as always.

Volume scorer on average efficiency = great scorer. He can hit a high amount of shots at an average rate of an ordinary player. Not many guys can put up that many kind of shots.

Also you need to know where Kobe plays...on the perimeter/midrange taking tons of difficult contested jumpers when his team cannot create anything. Of course his percentage suffers. But guess what he frees up the inside for his big men to operate. Guys like Lebron and Jordan play closer to the basket and get better percentages.

So if you put together a bunch of high efficiency players your team will always win? They'd probably get in each others way....just look at Wade and Lebron. Both need the ball in their hands and slash to the basket so they get in each others way. If you play Shaq and Duncan together things are gonna get horrible as both are low post players.

Not saying that Kobe is better than all those guys, but using these statistics as an argument just shows illogical hate on your part.

[QUOTE=Pinkhearts]Haters gonna hate as always.

Volume scorer on average efficiency = great scorer. He can hit a high amount of shots at an average rate of an ordinary player. Not many guys can put up that many kind of shots.

Also you need to know where Kobe plays...on the perimeter/midrange taking tons of difficult contested jumpers when his team cannot create anything. Of course his percentage suffers. But guess what he frees up the inside for his big men to operate. Guys like Lebron and Jordan play closer to the basket and get better percentages.

So if you put together a bunch of high efficiency players your team will always win? They'd probably get in each others way....just look at Wade and Lebron. Both need the ball in their hands and slash to the basket so they get in each others way. If you play Shaq and Duncan together things are gonna get horrible as both are low post players.

Not saying that Kobe is better than all those guys, but using these statistics as an argument just shows illogical hate on your part.[/QUOTE]


Pay no attention to the dancing a**clown known as bwink23. The moron is a pathetic Kobe hater who clearly knows nothing about basketball. Disregard anything he says.:sleeping

[QUOTE=ILLsmak]Kobe is inefficient because he takes dumb shots that go in like 1/3rd or less of the time. Rational people know if Kobe didn't play so stupid a lot of the time, he could be shooting over 50%.

-Smak[/QUOTE]


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[QUOTE=LakersReign]Pay no attention to the dancing a**clown known as bwink23. The moron is a pathetic Kobe[B] hater who clearly knows nothing about basketball.[/B] Disregard anything he says.:sleeping[/QUOTE]


You make this same statement in 70% of everything you post, LOL!!! are you mental?? Your telling people to disregard stuff, yet here you are, NOT disregarding yourself.

Congratulations, another uneventful post from your truly...the worst poster in all of ISH....FakersRain.....:hammerhead:

[QUOTE=kennethgriffin]so far the most efficient player in the nba has been the biggest underachiver and choker over the past 9 years

so.... whats effiency ever won anyone?

is there a PER trophy?[/QUOTE]
If by underachievement you mean 2

It's cause people mad cause their idol would shoot 30% given the looks Kobe gets (whether it be his fault or when his teammates give him the ball with the clock winding down).

[QUOTE=StateOfMind12]I agree.

People think we can judge who is a superior scorer simply based on who scores more ppg, higher TS%, higher FG%, higher eFG%, but the truth is that it goes beyond that. There are a numerous of other factors to determine who is the better scorer and why some players stats are like the way they are.

LeBron has never been the best scorer in the league to me despite the fact that he has led the league in scoring at some point and is efficient. The reason why he was never the best scorer in the league to me was because I could never depend on him in the clutch like I could with Kobe back in his prime ('06-'09) or Durant today.

There are too many factors that people love to ignore because of the amount of numerical data we have access to. Sadly, the numerical data does not give us all of the information.[/QUOTE]

The funniest thing to to me is watching obvious idiotic Lebronites, quoting stats like we're supposed to believe they really know what they mean. They can't form a single coherent defense for the things they say, but are quick to quote stats to try and make it look they do. Then whenever you challenge them, they haul a**, proving they truly know nothing of what they speak. It's like in algebra/geometry/calculus class, when you're given an equation, and told to not only give the answer, but also how you got the answer. There was always that one kid in class, who pretended to be mr know-it-all, and would give an answer, just to try and show off at how smart he supposedly was. But when asked to show how he arrived at that solution, had no answer, proving how full of sh*t he is. Same applies to Lebronites.:rolleyes:

AWWWW man!!!!

I wrote this big long post and accidentally deleted it. God damn it.