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[QUOTE=-p.tiddy-]Science has shown that gay males have brains that are the same shape as straight females and that gay females have a brain that is the same shape as straight males.[/QUOTE]
I don't think it is the whole brain that is similar, but just certain sub-structures.
[QUOTE=-p.tiddy-]Science has shown that gay males have brains that are the same shape as straight females and that gay females have a brain that is the same shape as straight males.
Google it...I know that sounds made up but its true.
I think that the vast majority of the time it is genetic...a case of wrong body to match the brain.[/QUOTE]
I think I get the gist of what you're trying to say ... but I can't say I agree with it. At conception, a random roll of the dice determines body type A) and brain type B)? I'm sure you didn't mean to paint such a simplistic picture, but that's what I get from it. I think it's much more complicated than that.
Let's say it's genetics. Purely genetics. Dad busts into mom. What's to say if sperm A) is 50% more prone to be homosexual than sperm B)? Then how about sperm C) 33.72% likelihood said child is "born" homosexual. That's why I don't see genetics being as big a part of the equation as commonly thought. I think it's much more complicated, and there's a "cap" on just how "born gay" one can be, and the pushing, main driving factor in one's ultimate arrival at being a homosexual is primarily dictated by their (youthful) social environment.
I think some individuals are born more gay than others, and they have a much higher likelihood of ultimately being gay. I also believe these same individuals could turn out straight, and not gay. This is why I don't see genetics being an end-all be-all end result of one's sexual preference. I think genetically some are more prone to being homosexual than others (like depression, or any other disorder), but combined with social environment, solidifies where they land.
Having said that, people who claim to be gay later on in life change to being straight. Then they go back to being gay. Some switch only once; some switch multiple times. This tells me it's not entirely genetics, and much more a choice in their personal lives. I'm not saying one choice is right and one choice is wrong, I'm just saying these circumstances with these individuals tell me social environment plays a much more vital role in their sexual preference than the grade of gasoline dad pumped into mom's tank.
[QUOTE=jdiaby]Stop making excuses for ******ry:coleman: , if gay people are really born gay and can't help their ways and wish they were so normal, shouldn't they really push to find the gay gene and eliminate it, become normal and rather than push for same-sex marriage.[/QUOTE]
:facepalm Gay people dont want to be straight, if they do it is only because the dominant majority (in this case straight bigots like you) have made their lives so horrible they can't stand it.
For large portions of American history white people made non-white people desire to be white. They didnt really want to be white, its just that whiteness had huge advantages associated with it.
Dont worry man there are virtually 0 case of gay men raping straight men. Just say no.
[QUOTE=miller-time]Yeah it isn't the beginning of anything. These are all separate issues that need to be debated and either accepted or denied on their own merits. Animal or child sexual-relationships with adults involve a side that is not able to give consent, so I highly doubt they will ever be accepted by mainstream society.[/QUOTE]
It's funny you choose to address one part of my post, but I'll entertain you regardless. Beastility consider it "lifestyle choices" if you saw the article I referenced in the previous post. Which is the same agrument homosexuals initially made. Polygamist such as Mormon and Muslims make the same argument that its a "lifestyle choice", I hope your as supportive as you are of gay rights as the other 2 groups otherwise your a hypocrite.
[QUOTE=Hoodlum Science]Having said that, people who claim to be gay later on in life change to being straight. Then they go back to being gay. Some switch only once; some switch multiple times. This tells me it's not entirely genetics, and much more a choice in their personal lives. I'm not saying one choice is right and one choice is wrong, I'm just saying these circumstances with these individuals tell me social environment plays a much more vital role in their sexual preference than the grade of gasoline dad pumped into mom's tank.[/QUOTE]
Often those choices are really just due to repression or uncertainty. They are caused by internal or external pressures. If you remove the pressure then the person will snap back to their default orientation. Remember a choice is only temporary. I can choose to eat a banana (and I have done) even though I really don't like them but at the end of the day I am always going to internally disagree with my choice (no matter how much my choice might please others).
To add, the banana isn't a euphemism lol, I really do dislike them.
[QUOTE=Hoodlum Science]I think I get the gist of what you're trying to say ... but I can't say I agree with it. At conception, a random roll of the dice determines body type A) and brain type B)? I'm sure you didn't mean to paint such a simplistic picture, but that's what I get from it. I think it's much more complicated than that.
[B]Let's say it's genetics. Purely genetics. Dad busts into mom. What's to say if sperm A) is 50% more prone to be homosexual than sperm B)? Then how about sperm C) 33.72% likelihood said child is "born" homosexual. That's why I don't see genetics being as big a part of the equation as commonly thought. I think it's much more complicated, and there's a "cap" on just how "born gay" one can be, and the pushing, main driving factor in one's ultimate arrival at being a homosexual is primarily dictated by their (youthful) social environment.[/B]
I think some individuals are born more gay than others, and they have a much higher likelihood of ultimately being gay. I also believe these same individuals could turn out straight, and not gay. This is why I don't see genetics being an end-all be-all end result of one's sexual preference. I think genetically some are more prone to being homosexual than others (like depression, or any other disorder), but combined with social environment, solidifies where they land.
Having said that, people who claim to be gay later on in life change to being straight. Then they go back to being gay. Some switch only once; some switch multiple times. This tells me it's not entirely genetics, and much more a choice in their personal lives. I'm not saying one choice is right and one choice is wrong, I'm just saying these circumstances with these individuals tell me social environment plays a much more vital role in their sexual preference than the grade of gasoline dad pumped into mom's tank.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=jdiaby]There is nothing rational about a dikk in the anus, thats why grown man that partake in the acts have to wear diapers. Tell me a some benefits of homosexuality on society other than the lame population control theory?[/QUOTE]
Gay men like taking ***** in the ass, because they were born that way. As straight men we cant comprehend that, because we were born straight. Your lack of understand how they can enjoy receptive **** sex, is evidence that they didn't choose to be gay.
[QUOTE=MavsSuperFan]:facepalm Gay people dont want to be straight, if they do it is only because the dominant majority (in this case straight bigots like you) have made their lives so horrible they can't stand it.
For large portions of American history white people made non-white people desire to be white. They didnt really want to be white, its just that whiteness had huge advantages associated with it.
Dont worry man there are virtually 0 case of gay men raping straight men. Just say no.[/QUOTE]
First off you got me messed up, how I am bigot cause I don't accept the gay lifestyle? Its wrong, **** what you heard!!
Second, Im Arab ( many circles I would and am considered black), alot black people if they could would try to pass for white if they could, its why alot of you white posters wouldn't want you future daughters with black man. You kind made my agrument for me, just in the same way blacks want to be accepted into white America, gays want their "lifestyle choices" to be accepted into American society, I'll leave up to you which you think is right and wrong.
[QUOTE=MavsSuperFan]Gay men like taking ***** in the ass, because they were born that way. As straight men we cant comprehend that, because we were born straight. Your lack of understand how they can enjoy receptive **** sex, is evidence that they didn't choose to be gay.[/QUOTE]
Real talk if you really believe an asshole is made for ****ing this conversation is over, really, really:biggums: :coleman: :biggums: :biggums:
You think people that **** animals, kids, trees, etc... like being fringe of society as well, if that your agrument end it:facepalm :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm
[QUOTE=miller-time][B]Often those choices are really just due to repression or uncertainty. They are caused by internal or external pressures. If you remove the pressure then the person will snap back to their default orientation[/B]. Remember a choice is only temporary. I can choose to eat a banana (and I have done) even though I really don't like them but at the end of the day I am always going to internally disagree with my choice (no matter how much my choice might please others).
To add, the banana isn't a euphemism lol, I really do dislike them.[/QUOTE]
OK, so let's say subject A) arrived at "default" sexual orientation of being straight. Then a year later they're gay. Two years after that, they're straight, then gay again, then back to being straight, and now finally they're gay. Is that individual gay or straight? We don't know, they don't know. The fact they even had homosexual tendencies to begin with, does that mean they're gay, period - no question's asked?
This further makes it clear you can't be born 100% gay. If the subject example above keeps flipping back and forth, doesn't it demonstrate they're more bi-sexual? Alright, so if it's 100% pure genetics; either you're born gay, you're born homosexual, or you're born bi-sexual, there shouldn't be so much flip-flopping, right?
It doesn't make sense that you are born 100% gay. Wouldn't you agree? Especially these people who keep switching teams, right? Doesn't it make more sense to subscribe to the % this and % that theory?
[QUOTE=jdiaby]Real talk if you really believe an asshole is made for ****ing this conversation is over, really, really:biggums: :coleman: :biggums: :biggums:[/QUOTE]
It isn't what it is made for, it is something that is used for sexual gratification. Same with mouths and hands and toys. Do you think oral sex is unacceptable because mouths aren't made to be used on genitals?
[QUOTE=jdiaby]Real talk if you really believe an asshole is made for ****ing this conversation is over, really, really:biggums: :coleman: :biggums: :biggums:
You think people that **** animals, kids, trees, etc... like being fringe of society as well, if that your agrument end it:facepalm :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm[/QUOTE]
Straight men have **** sex with women too. You know that right?
Sex is for fun. If you have fun having someone step on you balls (some people are into this) what is the harm as long as it is consensual?
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I suppose that simply went way over your head, because it seemed pretty clear to me. Nothing difficult to understand about that, and wasn't some far left field shit. Seems much more to me you're just one of those who can't see there could be a middle ground. All or nothing, right? Either you're born homo, or no. If that's your stance, I'd like to hear an explanation.
[QUOTE=Hoodlum Science]OK, so let's say subject A) arrived at "default" sexual orientation of being straight. Then a year later they're gay. Two years after that, they're straight, then gay again, then back to being straight, and now finally they're gay. Is that individual gay or straight? We don't know, they don't know. The fact they even had homosexual tendencies to begin with, does that mean they're gay, period - no question's asked?
This further makes it clear you can't be born 100% gay. If the subject example above keeps flipping back and forth, doesn't it demonstrate they're more bi-sexual? Alright, so if it's 100% pure genetics; either you're born gay, you're born homosexual, or you're born bi-sexual, there shouldn't be so much flip-flopping, right?
It doesn't make sense that you are born 100% gay. Wouldn't you agree? Especially these people who keep switching teams, right? Doesn't it make more sense to subscribe to the % this and % that theory?[/QUOTE]
Do you have an example? I don't even know how you came up with this idea that there is a person that is constantly going back and forth over many years being gay and straight? If that person exists then they might be bi, they might have some social factor influencing their choice (such as community, family, or religion), they might simply be choosing to override their natural proclivity because they can.
I don't have a problem with the idea that sexuality lies on a continuum but unless you are in the middle bit where you are attracted to both males and females OR you have other pressures then I don't think anyone is going back and forth between straight and gay.
[QUOTE=miller-time]It isn't what it is made for, it is something that is used for sexual gratification. Same with mouths and hands and toys. Do you think oral sex is unacceptable because mouths aren't made to be used on genitals?[/QUOTE]
Oral sex is just that "Oral Sex" its not the intended way for sexual gratification, get this for"BOTH PARTNERS", i think most recognize that, why don't you address my other points?:coleman: