Re: Was Scottie Pippen at least once robbed for Defensive Player of the Year?
Guys acting like Mutombo didnt deserve his awards when he was averaging 12 pts 12 rebs 4 blocks with arguably the Goat interior defense. He was almost single handedly shutting teams down with his play. It was the goat era for defenders so nobody is getting "robbed" if one player gets it over the other because they were all great.
Re: Was Scottie Pippen at least once robbed for Defensive Player of the Year?
I'm sure I read somewhere the bulls players got off Phil's angries on defence if they said pip told them to .speaks volumes on his defensive accumen.
Better add that is a good thing
Re: Was Scottie Pippen at least once robbed for Defensive Player of the Year?
[QUOTE=Reggie43;13994361]Guys acting like Mutombo didnt deserve his awards when he was averaging 12 pts 12 rebs 4 blocks with arguably the Goat interior defense. He was almost single handedly shutting teams down with his play. It was the goat era for defenders so nobody is getting "robbed" if one player gets it over the other because they were all great.[/QUOTE]
There's nothing arguable about it. Both David Robinson and Hakeem Olajuwon were better defensive players than him. On that note, Mutombo didn't even defend Robinson and Hakeem one on one. The PF always did because his feet were too damn slow to play any kind of decent defense on them. Anyway, you say he was almost single handedley shutting teams down with his play...they were 14th in defense in 1995. That's beside the point that Pippen was completely carrying the Bulls to 2nd in the league in defense...AS A PERIMETER DEFENSIVE PLAYER. Go look at that line up if you want to talk about carrying a defense. If there was a time for a perimeter player to win DPOY it was 1995. Scottie Pippen was robbed plain and simple.
Re: Was Scottie Pippen at least once robbed for Defensive Player of the Year?
Wasn't that the year Mutumbo had arguably the greatest defensive sequence of all time when he logged like 4 blocks in one play?
Re: Was Scottie Pippen at least once robbed for Defensive Player of the Year?
[QUOTE=Smoke117;13994371]There's nothing arguable about it. Both David Robinson and Hakeem Olajuwon were better defensive players than him. On that note, Mutombo didn't even defend Robinson and Hakeem one on one. The PF always did because his feet were too damn slow to play any kind of decent defense on them. Anyway, you say he was almost single handedley shutting teams down with his play...they were 14th in defense in 1995. That's beside the point that Pippen was completely carrying the Bulls to 2nd in the league in defense...AS A PERIMETER DEFENSIVE PLAYER. Go look at that line up if you want to talk about carrying a defense. If there was a time for a perimeter player to win DPOY it was 1995. Scottie Pippen was robbed plain and simple.[/QUOTE]
Mutombo not defending Robinson and Olajuwon one on one is such a lie, its all available online with a quick youtube search. It easy to make a case for Pippen but lying about Mutombo's defense as if he was a bradley or Eaton type of defender is pretty pathetic
Re: Was Scottie Pippen at least once robbed for Defensive Player of the Year?
[QUOTE=Reggie43;13994380]Mutombo not defending Robinson and Olajuwon one on one is such a lie, its all available online with a quick youtube search. It easy to make a case for Pippen but lying about Mutombo's defense as if he was a bradley or Eaton type of defender is pretty pathetic[/QUOTE]
Except there is barely anything because he barely ever actually defended them as they were just too quick for him. He was a Mark Eaton type. That he has four DPOY and Robinson only has one is laughable.
Re: Was Scottie Pippen at least once robbed for Defensive Player of the Year?
[QUOTE=Smoke117;13994383]Except there is barely anything because he barely ever actually defended them.[/QUOTE]
[video=youtube_share;ZFEvxc6W9To]https://youtu.be/ZFEvxc6W9To[/video][video=youtube_share;mUtJmDgIFI8]https://youtu.be/mUtJmDgIFI8[/video]
Re: Was Scottie Pippen at least once robbed for Defensive Player of the Year?
You just proved my point for me. Go find more. Exactly. I’m telling you...he regularly played off them instead of defending them straight up.
Re: Was Scottie Pippen at least once robbed for Defensive Player of the Year?
[QUOTE=Smoke117;13994390]You just proved my point for me. Go find more. Exactly. I’m telling you...he regularly played off them instead of defending them straight up.[/QUOTE]
Prove your point about what? That games like these are obviously rare? (actually found two more for both players) Both games Mutombo defends them straight up with limited help easily exposing you as a shitty liar.
Re: Was Scottie Pippen at least once robbed for Defensive Player of the Year?
Re: Was Scottie Pippen at least once robbed for Defensive Player of the Year?
Team A: 2nd in defense, defensive rating of 104.3
Team B: 14th of 27 teams in defense, defensive rating of 108.2
Team B has the DPOY? :biggums:
Re: Was Scottie Pippen at least once robbed for Defensive Player of the Year?
Should have been Pippen.
But let's not pretend Mutombo wasn't a great defensive player. He was outstanding.
Re: Was Scottie Pippen at least once robbed for Defensive Player of the Year?
Playing with MJ probably cost Scottie one or two DPOY awards. Of course, it also won him a few rings, so you might consider that a fair trade.
The NBA in the 90's was enjoying new heights of popularity and profitability. Jordan was their cash cow, and the league was milking him as much as they could. Jordans face was in every NBA promotion, and we were told that he was the greatest of all time, the consummate competitor, and every time the Bulls were playing it was must-see-TV, or you risked missing history being made. With that mindset, they couldn't really let Scottie win DPOY, could they? One of Jordans teammates winning an award would take a little shine off of MJ himself, and the league wasn't going to allow that.
Re: Was Scottie Pippen at least once robbed for Defensive Player of the Year?
[QUOTE=baudkarma;13994580]Playing with MJ probably cost Scottie one or two DPOY awards. Of course, it also won him a few rings, so you might consider that a fair trade.
The NBA in the 90's was enjoying new heights of popularity and profitability. Jordan was their cash cow, and the league was milking him as much as they could. Jordans face was in every NBA promotion, and we were told that he was the greatest of all time, the consummate competitor, and every time the Bulls were playing it was must-see-TV, or you risked missing history being made. With that mindset, they couldn't really let Scottie win DPOY, could they? One of Jordans teammates winning an award would take a little shine off of MJ himself, and the league wasn't going to allow that.[/QUOTE]
This is a genuinely stupid conspiracy theory.
Maybe the media didn't want to give it up to Scottie. Then again they did vote him in the top 3 the year before, ahead of Patrick and Shaq and Malone (I'd have had him in top 2).
Dikembe blocks shots. Led the league the season before with crazy number and didn't even make the 2nd team (not that that's wrong).
Scottie doesn't do that and they weren't that good as a team that year.
Re: Was Scottie Pippen at least once robbed for Defensive Player of the Year?
[QUOTE=Whoah10115;13994582]Dikembe blocks shots. Led the league the season before with crazy number and didn't even make the 2nd team (not that that's wrong).
Scottie doesn't do that and they weren't that good as a team that year.[/QUOTE]
They were a better team than the Nuggets and were much better defensively.
Mutumbo was a one way player which is what capped him in all-NBA, especially since Hakeem, Robinson, Ewing, Shaq, Mourning all played C during his prime.