ISH: Where MJ and Shaq allegedly had a higher peak than Wilt Chamberlain

[QUOTE=oolalaa]Perception. [B]Do you not realise that vertical jumps appear greater the smaller the person is?[/B]

:oldlol: at you posting pics of 5"7 Spud Webb IN A DUNK COMPETITION, 6"5 Jordan after a LOOONG run up with his legs bent back IN A DUNK COMPETITION, and T-Mac sitting on someones ****ing shoulders!! Not disingenuous at all :banana:[/QUOTE]
No, that is not true at all

vertical is how far you leave the ground. Doesn't matter how tall, 40" off the ground will look like 40" off the ground if that is what they have. Spud's is nearly 50".

Wilt doesn't have a 40" vert.Hell, some of you old poeple think Wilt had a 50" vert :roll:

Who gives a shit what his vertical is? :facepalm

[QUOTE=Punpun]The guy two posts above me mistook FUC[COLOR="Black"]K[/COLOR]ING VINCE CARTER for T-Mac.

:yaohappy:[/QUOTE]

They're ****ing cousins, give me a break!! :oldlol: They look eerily similar in that photo. Even with you saying that it's hard to tell.

[QUOTE=oolalaa]They're ****ing cousins, give me a break!! :oldlol: They look eerily similar in that photo. Even with you saying that it's hard to tell.[/QUOTE]

Dude, no. This is one of the most iconic dunk ever. The DUNK OF DEATH BRUH. HE DUNKED OVER A 7"0+ guy . OVER HIM. During the olympics.

Carter.

:bowdown:

[QUOTE=oolalaa]They're ****ing cousins, give me a break!! :oldlol: They look eerily similar in that photo. Even with you saying that it's hard to tell.[/QUOTE]


You talking about the Vince Olympic dunk???

Its up there with the most famous dunks ever:oldlol:

[QUOTE=WillC]Who gives a shit what his vertical is? :facepalm[/QUOTE]

Jlauber.

[QUOTE=oolalaa]They're ****ing cousins, give me a break!! :oldlol: They look eerily similar in that photo. Even with you saying that it's hard to tell.[/QUOTE]

....but it's arguably the most iconic dunk of the 2000s. Everyone knows it's Vince Carter.

So, apparently, there is a black hole in my memory :cry: My only defense is that I wasn't heavily into hoops in the early 2000s.

Jordan would have averaged like 38-46 ppg/10+ reb/7+ ast back then depending on the season and would have had games of 80+ points a few times. Not sure why you don't think it's debatable that he, Shaq, and possibly KAJ had better peaks.

[QUOTE=OldSchoolBBall]Jordan would have averaged like 38-46 ppg/10+ reb/7+ ast back then depending on the season and would have had games of 80+ points a few times. Not sure why you don't think it's debatable that he, Shaq, and possibly KAJ had better peaks.[/QUOTE]

But Jordan [B]didn't[/B] play back then :facepalm

I haven't seen a lot of that footage, but man Wilt was a monster of a man.

You see him take Kareem to school a few times in that video, pretty cool.

[QUOTE=OldSchoolBBall]Jordan would have averaged like 38-46 ppg/10+ reb/[B][U]7+ ast [/U][/B]back then depending on the season and would have had games of 80+ points a few times. Not sure why you don't think it's debatable that he, Shaq, and possibly KAJ had better peaks.[/QUOTE]

MJ's assists would be less had he played in the 60's, not more. '85-'90 is probably the most assist inflated era in league history. Those years are to assists what the 60's were to rebounds. During the 60's only 2 players ever reached double digit assists for a season (Guy Rogers and Big O), and the high was 11.48apg. From '85-'90, which includes MJ's highest assist seasons, multiple players were topping 12apg, maxing out at 14+, and doing it in less than 40mpg. It took Big O 45mpg to reach his 11 assists.

[url]http://www.basketball-reference.com/leaders/ast_per_g_yearly.html[/url]

[QUOTE=jlip]MJ's assists would be less had he played in the 60's, not more. '85-'90 is probably the most assist inflated era in league history. Those years are to assists what the 60's were to rebounds. During the 60's only 2 players ever reached double digit assists for a season (Guy Rogers and Big O), and the high was 11.48apg. From '85-'90, which includes MJ's highest assist seasons, multiple players were topping 12apg, maxing out at 14+, and doing it in less than 40mpg. It took Big O 45mpg to reach his 11 assists.

[url]http://www.basketball-reference.com/leaders/ast_per_g_yearly.html[/url][/QUOTE]

I never suggested MJ would average 10+ assists (unless he was scoring only 25-33 ppg instead of 40+ ppg), but he would almost certainly average 7 assists simply due to the defensive attention he would draw as well as his aggressive playing style.

[QUOTE=PHILA][URL="http://wiltfan.tripod.com/chat.htm"]http://wiltfan.tripod.com/chat.htm[/URL]


[I][FONT=Comic Sans MS]NBA legend Wilt Chamberlain 4-18-97

Host Chris_MSNBC2 says:
M3 says:
Question for Wilt...watched you bench press about 465 lbs [B][SIZE=4]l[/SIZE][/B][SIZE=3][B][SIZE=4]i[/SIZE]ke it was a match stick[/B][/SIZE] at the Stanford gym when you were working out there for some reason...how much can you still push up?

Host Wilt_Chamberlain says:
Well, probably I can push up a little more than that right now, because I was bench pressing some great weights. I was a shot-putter and lifting weights was a great joy to me. I liked to show off, I don't do that anymore, but I could probably bench press more than 465 pounds now.[/FONT][/I][/QUOTE]

You know what? Wilt is the Chuck Norris of basketball. :roll:

Taking into account competition, impact, all-around skills, postseason play, and intangibles (leadership, play in crunchtime, etc) - it's still MJ.