Who's better?: Nets vs Clipper?

[QUOTE=ChuckOakley]Fair enough....

41 and under, you win
42 and higher, I win.

1 month Avy right after the regular season ends.

Deal?[/QUOTE]
May god have mercy on your souls...

[QUOTE=ChuckOakley]Fair enough....

41 and under, you win
42 and higher, I win.

1 month Avy right after the regular season ends.

Deal?[/QUOTE]

Deal.

[QUOTE=Clippersfan86]Deal.[/QUOTE]
BTW... how many wins do you expect for the Clips?
You said second round or better.
I'm assuming you think 3rd seed and 54 wins roughly.

[QUOTE=niko]May god have mercy on your souls...[/QUOTE]
You want in?

How many W's do you predict?

[QUOTE=ChuckOakley]BTW... how many wins do you expect for the Clips?
You said second round or better.
I'm assuming you think 3rd seed and 54 wins roughly.[/QUOTE]

Hmm... 3 seed at best, probably 4th though. I think 50-52 wins probably. Lakers will get around 60 as will Thunder.

Chuck I'm curious what picture you're gonna pick when you win the bet.

[COLOR="White"]Just messing[/COLOR]

[QUOTE=Clippersfan86]Hmm... 3 seed at best, probably 4th though. I think 50-52 wins probably. Lakers will get around 60 as will Thunder.[/QUOTE]
Ok, I think your Clipper projections are perfectly reasonable. And I understand why you think what you do about the Nets... they have a lot to prove, but I think you will be surprised, even if mildly so.

Clips are better right now because they have the proven chemistry, but the Nets are a far more talented team.

The Nets have a lot of the same names from last year but its the timing that changes everything.

We didnt have Gerald Wallace to start.. we had joey graham and that Damien James guy(? I think thats his name.. they both suck)

We had Anthony 'cant dribble' morrow to start..

We had johan Petro and Shelden Williams at the C..

All of those offensively pathetic positions were replaced with legit offensive firepower in the form of Joe johnson, Brook Lopez, and Gerald Wallace.

And most of all, they are all healthy and ready to go from the start where as the Nets had nothing to play for all last year because of their terrible beginning to the season. By the time Wallace and Brook started balling again we were out and Deron was seriously looking disinterested and like he was gonna leave us.

The mentality and timing coming into this year is actually more important than any one player that was picked up.

[QUOTE=MTing]Chuck I'm curious what picture you're gonna pick when you win the bet.

[COLOR="White"]Just messing[/COLOR][/QUOTE]
I got plenty of time to figure it out
:pimp:


(waits for the Nets to be decimated by injuries for the 2nd year in a row where they lost the most games to injury, had the most staring line-ups, most players lost to season ending injuries, had the most d-league call-ups.. and looks like a fool)

[QUOTE=tpols]Clips are better right now because they have the proven chemistry, but the Nets are a far more talented team.

The Nets have a lot of the same names from last year but its the timing that changes everything.

We didnt have Gerald Wallace to start.. we had joey graham and that Damien James guy(? I think thats his name.. they both suck)

We had Anthony 'cant dribble' morrow to start..

We had johan Petro and Shelden Williams at the C..

All of those offensively pathetic positions were replaced with legit offensive firepower in the form of Joe johnson, Brook Lopez, and Gerald Wallace.

And most of all, they are all healthy and ready to go from the start where as the Nets had nothing to play for all last year because of their terrible beginning to the season. By the time Wallace and Brook started balling again we were out and Deron was seriously looking disinterested and like he was gonna leave us.

The mentality and timing coming into this year is actually more important than any one player that was picked up.[/QUOTE]
We are far from being more talented than the Clippers.

CP3 is the best PG in the league and Griffin is much better than any big man we have. Add to those two near perfect role players like JC, G.Hill and Odom off the bench and Billups, Butler and Jordan in the starting line-up and you see why that is the case.

Clippers have two things going against them.. they play in the uber-competitive West which is not only deep as hell, but has OKC and LAL. The other thing they have to worry about is the age/fragility of many of their players. But healthy, this team is top 6... behind LAL and Miami... maybe behind Boston and OKC and on par with SAS.

[QUOTE=ChuckOakley]Ok, I think your Clipper projections are perfectly reasonable. And I understand why you think what you do about the Nets... they have a lot to prove, but I think you will be surprised, even if mildly so.[/QUOTE]

:cheers: as I said I actually love the core they have put together. If Lopez becomes a more aggressive rebounder and defender, Humphries works on his defense and JJ buys right in by next year (2013-2014) they can absolutely be a top 3 seed in east. I just think it will take a year of mistakes/rough patches to sort it out.

[QUOTE=Clippersfan86]:cheers: as I said I actually love the core they have put together. If Lopez becomes a more aggressive rebounder and defender, Humphries works on his defense and JJ buys right in by next year they can absolutely be a top 3 seed in east. I just think it will take a year of mistakes/rough patches to sort it out.[/QUOTE]
I don't think it will take long. They all assembled first thing and every single player other than Brooks, JJ and Taylor chose to be there as they were all free agents.

Other thing to note, this team is all about the now in Brooklyn. They have Humphries' massive 2 year contract as well as all future first rounders and 2 Euro-stash players that they will move during the season if they can for an upgrade even if it means taking on more salary.

From reports in training camp Blatche has been in best mode and he is a major risk vs. reward player for us.. where even if Lopez goes down (my main worry right now), I'm glad he's there to place a band-aid over the hole at Center.

Is this team a contender?
No. But for year 1 in Brooklyn I think they are off to a great start.

42+ wins seems likes a sure thing to me.

Clippers easily. The Nets are the 4th best team in the Atlantic division.

Nets might end up with a better record... but that's easy to do in the east.

Clippers are a better team top to bottom I think.

[QUOTE=Kevin_Garnett_5]Clippers easily. The Nets are the 4th best team in the Atlantic division.[/QUOTE]
Another person up for an Avatar bet?
How many wins do you give them?

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