Man Murders A Drunk Driver After Car Crash

[QUOTE=-p.tiddy-]I am a parent...and it's not nonsense...[B]driver doesn't deserve to be executed
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law agrees[/QUOTE]


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Barajas had ZERO proof the driver was drunk.

the police haven't said anything about an open bottle, or witness' having seen the driver drinking.

and, yet, they've reported witness' descriptions of seeing Barajas go into his house and come back.

even if the toxicology reports do eventually prove the driver was drunk, who the fukc is Barajas to be judge, jury and executioner???

he should go to prison.



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In Canada this would be ruled a passion crime and he'd get off with 8-10 years I think. Don't know if there's similar case law in the states.

[QUOTE=Skywalker]In Canada this would be ruled a [B]passion crime[/B] and he'd get off with 8-10 years I think. Don't know if there's similar case law in the states.[/QUOTE]
Wow hella gay :lol

[QUOTE=Pacers4ever]Wow hella gay :lol[/QUOTE]


Voluntary manslaughter is called a crime of passion in the States as well.

[QUOTE=Pacers4ever]Wow hella gay :lol[/QUOTE]
You need to refer to a dictionary more often.

[QUOTE=Nanners]Your first argument is flat out ridiculous "making a bad decision while in a state of mind that he could only make bad decisions"....he put himself in that position!! He acknowledged the risk of making a bad decision when he made the decision to get black out drunk.
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He did put himself in that position and deserves to be punished for it, it is extremely unlikely "he made the decision to get black out drunk" though...no one does that, it just happens. My point is the driver is literally insane at times, I mean NEWS FLASH drunk people make horrible decisions, they really shouldn't be trusted to decide what the smart thing to do is.
[QUOTE=Nanners]This was his first time being "cought" for DUI, but had driven drunk before the DUI for sure. We have been out of touch for years but last time I saw him he had not changed at all.

I am not saying that we should throw away every DUI for life, I am just saying what i observed first hand-- 3 months of "classes" is not a big enough penalty.

Off the top of my head, I think there should maybe be mandatory 7 or 14 days in jail (not crazy federal prison, just jail) for first time DUI. I think getting locked up for a week or two to reflect on the fact that you could have killed a couple innocent people would be a good thing for first time DUIers.[/QUOTE]
your first DUI in the states is still a massive pain in the ass...you have to at least spend one night in jail and perhaps more after if you can't afford bail ...then you have probation that forces you to come in once a week and piss in a cup and pay some hefty probation fee...then you have to take DUI classes, also costing you money...you have court costs which can be thousands if you got a lawyer. You lose your licence for a 3-6 months...after all is said and done you are out $8k-$12k in money, enough to take a cab or even a limo every weekend for a year.

then after your first DUI, if you are a repeat offender the punishment gets considerably worse...and if you have 3 strikes you do go to prison.

I like the way it is set up now...because IMO this is a crime where it is only the repeat offenders that should be put away, the legal limit can be set off by just 3 drinks, many people with just 1 DUI aren't really a threat and shouldn't be locked up for years for their mishap.

[QUOTE=BRabbiT]+1



Barajas had ZERO proof the driver was drunk.

the police haven't said anything about an open bottle, or witness' having seen the driver drinking.

and, yet, they've reported witness' descriptions of seeing Barajas go into his house and come back.

even if the toxicology reports do eventually prove the driver was drunk, who the fukc is Barajas to be judge, jury and executioner???

he should go to prison.



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yeah if it was up to ISH the law would be like a mix of the Wild West and the movie Idiocracy...[I]"law says I can shoot you if I think you're drunk"..."but if you were texting it is okay because that is more rare"[/I]


Like I was trying to point out earlier though, I think there is a decent chance this man didn't care if the driver was drunk or sober...all he knows is someone came out of no where and killed his kids. Weather that man was texting, or sleeping behind the wheel, or dropped a cigarette, or was drunk...it doesn't matter...drunk or sober it was a fatal mistake.

[QUOTE=-p.tiddy-]He did put himself in that position and deserves to be punished for it, it is extremely unlikely "he made the decision to get black out drunk" though...[B]no one does that[/B], it just happens. My point is the driver is literally insane at times, I mean NEWS FLASH drunk people make horrible decisions, they really shouldn't be trusted to decide what the smart thing to do is.

your first DUI in the states is still a massive pain in the ass...you have to at least spend one night in jail and perhaps more after if you can't afford bail ...then you have probation that forces you to come in once a week and piss in a cup and pay some hefty probation fee...then you have to take DUI classes, also costing you money...you have court costs which can be thousands if you got a lawyer. You lose your licence for a 3-6 months...after all is said and done you are out $8k-$12k in money, enough to take a cab or even a limo every weekend for a year.

then after your first DUI, if you are a repeat offender the punishment gets considerably worse...and if you have 3 strikes you do go to prison.

I like the way it is set up now...because IMO this is a crime where it is only the repeat offenders that should be put away, the legal limit can be set off by just 3 drinks, many people with just 1 DUI aren't really a threat and shouldn't be locked up for years for their mishap.[/QUOTE]

Working in downtown Toronto in the weekends, I'll say I've ran into quite a bit of people who drink to get fu[I]c[/I]ked up. At times it can get pretty ridiculous too but I don't think anyone is disagreeing that people tend to make poor choices when their drunk but that prior to being drunk they were sober and capable of making decisions that could prevent drunk driving.

Can't believe prime has a kid

[QUOTE=MMM]Working in downtown Toronto in the weekends, I'll say I've ran into quite a bit of people who drink to get fu[I]c[/I]ked up. At times it can get pretty ridiculous too but I don't think anyone is disagreeing that people tend to make poor choices when their drunk but that prior to being drunk they were sober and capable of making decisions that could prevent drunk driving.[/QUOTE]
agreed

I'm talking about blackout drunk though, which is much different than just "getting fcked up"...A drunk who is blacked out will not remember a thing...wake up wondering how they got home, or where they are, etc

[QUOTE=-p.tiddy-]agreed

I'm talking about blackout drunk though, which is much different than just "getting fcked up"...A drunk who is blacked out will not remember a thing...wake up wondering how they got home, or where they are, etc[/QUOTE]

I guess that is true but you would think drinking to "getting Effed up" can lead to it fair share of blackouts

[QUOTE=Just2McFly]Can't believe prime has a kid[/QUOTE]
because I don't think this guy should have been executed?

If you actually read my posts they are mature in nature...I am probably the most educated poster on this subject as well

I'm also a great father...make a great living, my son's college fund is already in place, will be worth a $100k when he turns 16, and his mother, my wife, who is about to get her masters could likely make more than myself.

I also make video games for a living and love sports, I am a dream father for my son



what do you have to offer a family besides childishness?...maybe I should be your father McFly

[QUOTE=-p.tiddy-]because I don't think this guy should have been executed?

If you actually read my posts they are mature in nature...I am probably the most educated poster on this subject as well

I'm also a great father...make a great living, my son's college fund is already in place, will be worth a $100k when he turns 16, and his mother, my wife, who is about to get her masters could likely make more than myself.

I also make video games for a living and love sports, I am a dream father for my son



what do you have to offer a family besides childishness?...maybe I should be your father McFly[/QUOTE]

I don't think he meant it that context but i can't speak for him

[QUOTE=-p.tiddy-]because I don't think this guy should have been executed?

If you actually read my posts they are mature in nature...I am probably the most educated poster on this subject as well

I'm also a great father...make a great living, my son's college fund is already in place, will be worth a $100k when he turns 16, and his mother, my wife, who is about to get her masters could likely make more than myself.

I also make video games for a living and love sports, I am a dream father for my son



what do you have to offer a family besides childishness?...maybe I should be your father McFly[/QUOTE]
maybe you should grow the f*ck up and stop being so insecure.:roll:

keep spouting off about money, you are still a dumbass and threads like these never fail to show it.

you would think becoming a father would change your perspective but the way you try to trivialize drunk driving is disgusting.

[QUOTE=MMM]I don't think he meant it that context but i can't speak for him[/QUOTE]
he did...that wasn't a friendly "oh wow, didn't know prime was a father, congrats!"

he has it out for me, always has...he is also just a troll, red bars to prove it