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[QUOTE=PickernRoller]Pretty much everything for an all-time great. Lebron on the other hand has taken a shortcut for everything is his career. I still debate which is more appropiate Leshortcut or LeQueen. Both apply so well.[/QUOTE]
4 MVP, and 2x Finals MVP > 1 MVP and 2x Finals MVP. The Blazers traded Clyde Drexler to Houston in the 1995 NBA Season. Before Dexter was traded to the Rockets, they were barely a playoffs team.
It's definitely debatable if LeBron wins another ring this year, but there are two things LeBron will never have on Hakeem.
1. LeBron will never match Hakeem's defensive impact.
and
2. LeBron will never get as much credit for his championships as Hakeem. However, if LeBron ends up with 4+ titles, that won't really matter.
[QUOTE=Lebron23]4 MVP, and 2x Finals MVP > 1 MVP and 2x Finals MVP. The Blazers traded Clyde Drexler to Houston in the 1995 NBA Season. Before Dexter was traded to the Rockets, they were barely a playoffs team.[/QUOTE]
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We were all witness...........not 2, not 3, not 4.....chokes in the NBA finals. :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:
And people can still root for the guy in a fanatical fashion. I lost my respect for Lebron and his accomplishments a long time ago. He's a good player no doubt - but definitely not All-time great caliber. Better thank the league - very kind it has been.
Pauk won't stop till LeBron is the GOAT
[QUOTE=PickernRoller][IMG]http://www.waitingfornextyear.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/the-Decision-LeBron-James-ESPN.png[/IMG]
We were all witness...........not 2, not 3, not 4.....chokes in the NBA finals. :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:
And people can still root for the guy in a fanatical fashion. I lost my respect for Lebron and his accomplishments a long time ago. He's a good player no doubt - but definitely not All-time great caliber. Better thank the league - very kind it has been.[/QUOTE]
Top 8 player of all time if the Heats wins the NBA Championship in June.
You guys are being way to quick to dismiss Hakeem's title runs. Look at his team in 94 and look at his numbers in 95
[QUOTE=LikeABosh]Yes, Lebron goes past Hakeem easily if the he wins the Finals MVP this season. You care way too much about his legacy though[/QUOTE]
lebron will never win dpoy :banana:
[QUOTE=Lebron23]Top 8 player of all time if the Heats wins the NBA Championship in June.[/QUOTE]
In your list - :roll: :roll: who gives a shit about your list? Yep.
[QUOTE=Lebron23]The Blazers traded Clyde Drexler to Houston in the 1995 NBA Season. Before Dexter was traded to the Rockets, they were barely a playoffs team.[/QUOTE]
Anyway:
Hakeem before Drexler, 1994 NBA Champion/Finals MVP against NYK aka Patrick Ewing. Next year, with Drexler, 1995 NBA Champion/Finals MVP against ORL aka Shaq the Diesel. 1986 NBA Finals appearance against Larry Bird - six game series. You have my permission to shoot yourself into oblivion. Never ever to return again.
[QUOTE=chazzy]You guys are being way to quick to dismiss Hakeem's title runs. Look at his team in 94 and look at his numbers in 95[/QUOTE]
Do you think Hakeem's title runs was way better than Kobe's title runs in 2009 and 2010?
[QUOTE=PickernRoller]In your list - :roll: :roll: who gives a shit about your list? Yep.
Anyway:
Hakeem before Drexler, 1994 NBA Champion/Finals MVP against NYK aka Patrick Ewing. Next year, with Drexler, 1995 NBA Champion/Finals MVP against ORL aka Shaq the Diesel. 1986 NBA Finals appearance against Larry Bird - six game series. You have my permission to shoot yourself into oblivion. Never ever to return again.[/QUOTE]
Durant in 2012 > Ewing in 1995. LBJ beat his greatest rival in the NBA Finals.
[QUOTE=Lebron23]Do you rank Hakeem's championship runs over Kobe's title runs in 2009 and 2010?[/QUOTE]
Most definitely.
Lebron had a fantastic run last year - but if you understand what Hakeem had to do on both ends for that team - their really aren't many seasons or playoff runs you can put ahead of them.
[QUOTE=Lebron23]Durant in 2012 > Ewing in 1995. LBJ beat his greatest rival in the NBA Finals.[/QUOTE]
According to the LeQueen fanbase and the fervor in their tongues LeQueen's main rival will always be Kobe Bryant - despite the fact that he's already a past-prime athlete leagues and miles better than LeQueen. Lebron can only aspire but he will never reach. Lol at Durant at this stage in his career been better than Ewing. Laughable. He did not beat Durant - Mike Miller, Mario Chalmers, Shame Battier and the refs in game 2 beat Durant. 30.6 pts on 54.8%. Yep he was beaten.
[QUOTE=pauk]List of all their accolades:
..........................LeBron.................Hakeem..............
ROTY.....................Yes.......................No................
Best Player...........4+ years................2 years.............
All-Star MVP.............2.........................0..................
POTM.....................25........................5..................
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I see you still haven't learned or gotten over your old ways, despite claiming many times you're not the same poster you use to be.
Assuming Lebron wins the MVP, Title, and Finals MVP again this season which I think he will.
I can only think of 5 players worthy being listed ahead of him.
Those players are
MJ
KAJ
Russell
Magic
Shaq
[QUOTE=KG215]I see you still haven't learned or gotten over your old ways, despite claiming many times you're not the same poster you use to be.[/QUOTE]
Did he really claimed so? :lol :lol :lol
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