Printable View
[QUOTE=TheCorporation]New York
[/QUOTE]
:facepalm
Retard
[QUOTE]Porter Fischer, the former Biogenesis of Miami clinic employee who turned boxes of documents over to the Miami New Times last year, declined to name the athletes.[/QUOTE]
You cant read 2 full sentences? :facepalm
Hope D-Rose still can buy some boxes of the stuff
So many people already calling out names like they know something about it. Quite sad how no one wants to believe these guys attain their physiques, stamina, explosion through hard work and through thorough work ethic. Until someone is identified and punished from the league (like Rashard and Hedo), I see no reason to call their names like you actually know they have done PEDs. You're just assuming so because you hate their game.
[QUOTE=GOBB]Explain then idiot[/QUOTE]
The poster that he was responding to said, and I'm paraphrasing, "if Lebron's using, then he'd have to have been using since 16, and no one knew about it."
To me, that sounds like Lebron was just as beastly at 16 as he is now, relative to age.
Magic 32 posts a pic of a 16 year old Lebron, and it looks like a normal, athletic 16 year old kid that plays basketball. Not some beastly kid that looks like he's on roids.
How you guys didn't get the reference, I don't know.
Again. Why I called you guys dense. :rolleyes:
[QUOTE=deja vu]LOL at all these idiots condoning steroid and PED use. :lol[/QUOTE]
Funny isn't it? Has even a hint of something to do with Lebron, and its all good, JUST IN CASE Lebron gets popped.
Let this even hint towards Rose, and these flea bags are blowing this thread through the roof.
[QUOTE=tikay0]The poster that he was responding to said, and I'm paraphrasing, "if Lebron's using, then he'd have to have been using since 16, and no one knew about it."
To me, that sounds like Lebron was just as beastly at 16 as he is now, relative to age.
Magic 32 posts a pic of a 16 year old Lebron, and it looks like a normal, athletic 16 year old kid that plays basketball. Not some beastly kid that looks like he's on roids.
How you guys didn't get the reference, I don't know.
Again. Why I called you guys dense. :rolleyes:[/QUOTE]
Lebron at 16 had a NBA ready beady. 6'8 and 240. He even still looked skinny. It's weird that normal people get so huge after high school without using steroids, but we question it happens to NBA players.
Do any of you remember how you looked at 16, compared to now. I was 5'1 95 pounds on my license picture and now I'm 5'8 158. It is just normal for people to become huge. Same with college...I am so much bigger now than what I was after my freshmen and sophomore year of college. Junior year is when I really got my 'adult' body.
Biogenesis was in Miami, right? Hmmmm......
Appreciate the post Chocoate Thunder (typing that name makes
Me feel awkward now lol)
Tikiya, Tahitian treat. I didn't follow the line of posts. I saw him reply with two photos and implying he was using.
[QUOTE=sundizz]Lebron at 16 had a NBA ready beady. 6'8 and 240. He even still looked skinny. It's weird that normal people get so huge after high school without using steroids, but we question it happens to NBA players.
Do any of you remember how you looked at 16, compared to now. I was 5'1 95 pounds on my license picture and now I'm 5'8 158. It is just normal for people to become huge. Same with college...I am so much bigger now than what I was after my freshmen and sophomore year of college. Junior year is when I really got my 'adult' body.[/QUOTE]
I completely understand this, but if you're going to mention a 16 year old lebron, and saying that he looked like a roid head back then, then I'd expect a 16 year old that looks unnaturally fit.
Hence, why magic posted those pics. You guys still aren't getting this?
[QUOTE=DuMa]So many people already calling out names like they know something about it. Quite sad how no one wants to believe these guys attain their physiques, stamina, explosion through hard work and through thorough work ethic. Until someone is identified and punished from the league (like Rashard and Hedo), I see no reason to call their names like you actually know they have done PEDs. You're just assuming so because you hate their game.[/QUOTE]
Even if you juice you have to work very hard, "all" these guys juice, you just have to use common sense while being some what informed.
These guys plays 82 games in the regular season while traveling all over the country, recovery is king.
Probably around 90% of NBA players use or have used in order to grov more in high school and college. And I know you want to say that it has to be proved ie them getting caught and so on, but the NBA does not test for it.
You are in denial if you can't see it, in a sport where size is a great attribute and somebody tells a high school player about the effects of this drug while mentioning side effects like bigger hands(!!!), he can't help but want it.
[QUOTE=tikay0]Funny isn't it? Has even a hint of something to do with Lebron, and its all good, JUST IN CASE Lebron gets popped.
Let this even hint towards Rose, and these flea bags are blowing this thread through the roof.[/QUOTE]
Rose has more estrogen in his system than most 15 year old girls. We don't ever have to worry about him on roids.
[QUOTE=MavsSuperFan]At this point I have accepted all pro and high level amateur athletes dope.[/QUOTE]
This. PED's won't make the ball go in. Skills, on the other hand...
[QUOTE=SilkkTheShocker]Rose has more estrogen in his system than most 15 year old girls. We don't ever have to worry about him on roids.[/QUOTE]
:applause:
Other people have said this, but these NBA players are playing for multi million dollar contracts and endorsements. I would be surprised if players were NOT pushing the boundaries of what's "allowed" and what is not. And "pushing the boundaries" typically means straying into a "gray" area. Do I think NBA athletes are taking things that are illegal? Not necessarily. But they are (should be) 100% taking all allowed substances to help their performance, as well as the substances that are in that "gray area".
With stakes that high, I would do it. And you would too.
However, I'm not condoning athletes using anything on the "banned" list. Just saying that if it's not on the "banned" list, no matter how closely it resembles a substance that is on it, then why not do it? You better believe your opponent is doing everything in his power to improve himself and his game.
[QUOTE=DuMa]So many people already calling out names like they know something about it. Quite sad how no one wants to believe these guys attain their physiques, stamina, explosion through hard work and through thorough work ethic. Until someone is identified and punished from the league (like Rashard and Hedo), I see no reason to call their names like you actually know they have done PEDs. You're just assuming so because you hate their game.[/QUOTE]
It's because of all the high profile names who've been busted in other sports, while strongly maintaining their innocence if anyone dared to accuse them. After a while, you just become cynical about anyone being clean. Hell, it turns out Carl Lewis cheated too!
Who's next? Phelps? Bolt? What is it just track/swimming, cycling and baseball players who benefit from this stuff?