Shaq calls Nash's MVPs "tainted"

[quote=bokes15]the same Mutumbo who got absolutely dominated by Shaq in the finals?[/quote]
I don't think you're helping Iverson's case here.

To paraphrase the Dude:

"You're not wrong, Shaq. You're just an azzhole."

The MVP's been tainted ever since MJ was around. Nash has nothing to do with it. But Shaq is a loudmouth and a fool. He needs to clarify these all encompassing statements he makes. Is it tainted because Nash doesn't deserve the awards? Is it tainted because it's a subjective award and reporters don't always pick based solely on merit?

[QUOTE=ExpatSunsFan]I don't think you're helping Iverson's case here.[/QUOTE]

Iverson led his team to the finals with basically nobody on his team. Shaq had Kobe. Explain to me how i'm wrong and maybe you'll have a case.

and against who he did it ?

the lakers knocked out the blazers with pippen, rasheed, smith and sabonis there, then beat the kings with webber, divac, peja and christie, then proceded to annihilate and embarass the league-leading spurs in what was one of the worst blowouts in conferece finals history, who did AI knock out again ? the pacers in the 1st round, then the series went 7 games against the RAPTORS (!!) and the bucks.

[QUOTE=DreamRockets]and against who he did it ?

the lakers knocked out the blazers with pippen, rasheed, smith and sabonis there, then beat the kings with webber, divac, peja and christie, then proceded to annihilate and embarass the league-leading spurs in what was one of the worst blowouts in conferece finals history, who did AI knock out again ? the pacers in the 1st round, then the series went 7 games against the RAPTORS (!!) and the bucks.[/QUOTE]

Based on your argument, nobody in the east should get mvp, it should only go to a western conference team. A player doesn't choose which conference they play for or which teams they play against, and the MVP award shouldn't be based on that either.

Also, how come people are saying that in 04/05 Shaq got robbed. Baysed on this criteria, Chauncey Billups was on the team with the best record in the east, he was the best player on that team, and he wasn't even in the top 5 in votes. Was that not a robbery?

It is tainted.

Name one other MVP winner who Nash is close to being as good as.

And he might win three in a row?!?!

:eek:

[QUOTE=bokes15]
Also, how come people are saying that in 04/05 Shaq got robbed. Baysed on this criteria, Chauncey Billups was on the team with the best record in the east, he was the best player on that team, and he wasn't even in the top 5 in votes. Was that not a robbery?[/QUOTE]

The Pistons had the fifth best record in 04/05.

[QUOTE=bokes15]Based on your argument, nobody in the east should get mvp, it should only go to a western conference team. A player doesn't choose which conference they play for or which teams they play against, and the MVP award shouldn't be based on that either.

Also, how come people are saying that in 04/05 Shaq got robbed. Baysed on this criteria, Chauncey Billups was on the team with the best record in the east, he was the best player on that team, and he wasn't even in the top 5 in votes. Was that not a robbery?[/QUOTE]

billups never had the effect of a shaq, and you are right, no player should win mvp in the east unless they are winning 62-72 games every season like mj did, and MJ did it when the east wasn't the least yet.

[QUOTE=DreamRockets]billups never had the effect of a shaq, and you are right, no player should win mvp in the east unless they are winning 62-72 games every season like mj did, and MJ did it when the east wasn't the least yet.[/QUOTE]
Last years Pistons had 60+ wins and Billups was still never given serious consideration. And of course a guard isn't gonna have the effect of a Shaq. That's never gonna happen.

[QUOTE=bokes15]Last years Pistons had 60+ wins and Billups was still never given serious consideration. And of course a guard isn't gonna have the effect of a Shaq. That's never gonna happen.[/QUOTE]
He was fifth in voting with a .418 shooting %.

[QUOTE=bokes15]Last years Pistons had 60+ wins and Billups was still never given serious consideration. And of course a guard isn't gonna have the effect of a Shaq. That's never gonna happen.[/QUOTE]

lol, can i know why is billups more valuable than ben wallace was in detroit ? its hard to choose an mvp in a team who has no superstars, and barely has allstars.

[QUOTE=malek4980]He was fifth in voting with a .418 shooting %.[/QUOTE]
He did whatever the team needed. He distributed the ball when the team was scoring, and when they went through droughts he scored when necessary, and also took all the big shots? I think that had he been in the West, he'd be higher than 5th in voting.. So yeah, maybe the voting IS tainted, but that shouldn't detract from Nash getting it twice.

Why is everyone avoiding the obvious fact that Nash being white is the reason he won two and may win 3.

[QUOTE=DreamRockets]im having problems to make you understand those lakers and spurs teams were much better than any of the contendors of nowadays, but if i have to explain you that much do you really deserve my attention and precious time ?[/QUOTE]

This gets kinda watered down after awhile. I remember when the Lakers and Spurs were owning the league and everyone said that they weren't as good as contenders from the mid 90s. It is just ridiculous to think that the NBA is the only sport where the athletes don't get better and more skilled over time.

Today's contenders, namely the Mavericks, Suns, and Spurs, can and could play with any contenders from any time in the salary cap & expansion era of the NBA. This years Mavs team could be one of the best teams in the history of the salary cap era & expansion era of the NBA.

I just refuse to believe that the NBA is the only sport where players are getting worse with time. It just isnt true.

[QUOTE=jaja]Why is everyone avoiding the obvious fact that Nash being white is the reason he won two and may win 3.[/QUOTE]

Because they are too busy trying to ignore the fact that you are an ignorant racist.

Shaq should have won one over Nash, but also at least another versus Tim Duncan or AI. Last time I checked neither of them boys is white.