[QUOTE=Black and White]Etherman strikes again, straight killed this dude :oldlol:[/QUOTE]
He is a straight up fvckboy
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[QUOTE=Black and White]Etherman strikes again, straight killed this dude :oldlol:[/QUOTE]
He is a straight up fvckboy
[QUOTE=JohnFreeman]He is a straight up fvckboy[/QUOTE]
One of the most delusional, uneducated posters I have come across
Rondo hasn't done shit without the big 3 and instead lives off of the reputation he once had thanks to KG, Pierce and Allen. case in point:
[QUOTE=Black and White]Facts: last 24 months, playing with an old cast plagued with injuries, that isn't going anywhere, fact: Rajon Rondo went down with a serious injury, fact: they have brought him back after a few months into the season and keeping him on limited minutes as they are TANKING, have you not though about that? If they played him more they would win more games which would inhibit the TANK, if he was as overrated as you say he is he would be playing max mins because his play would have no affect on the team right? Right????[/QUOTE]
dude is literally giving me a list of excuses on why we should give Rondo a pass for the last two years. lmao
the irony tho, "this isn't 2011 Dwight anymore".
^ same kid who said that is the one claiming Rondo is elite because of what he did two years ago. lol
[QUOTE=YouGotServed] IIRC, Houston is not even top 20 in 3 pt%[/QUOTE]
They sure like to shoot em still, since they're #1 in 3PA
[QUOTE]And yes he's overrated. Hasn't done anything praise worthy in 24 months. That's fact.[/QUOTE]
I agree he's overrated, but his Heat series was factually praise worthy. And he only played half a season without Ray Allen before tearing his ACL
rondo put out 18 pts and 10 ast the game before the AS week doe :roll:
[QUOTE=YouGotServed]Rondo hasn't done shit without the big 3 and instead lives off of the reputation he once had thanks to KG, Pierce and Allen. case in point:
dude is literally giving me a list of excuses on why we should give Rondo a pass for the last two years. lmao
the irony tho, "this isn't 2011 Dwight anymore".
^ same kid who said that is the one claiming Rondo is elite because of what he did two years ago. lol[/QUOTE]
A fully healthy Rondo is an elite PG, nobody would doubt that. I don't see your point there.
[QUOTE=Black and White]A fully healthy Rondo is an elite PG, nobody would doubt that. I don't see your point there.[/QUOTE]
what has he done the last two years? We both know the answer. hence saying he's an elite pg does make him one of if not the most overrated point guard in the league. fact.
[QUOTE=Black and White]
Yea he isn't LeBron James, but he is the guy that took it to LeBron James and the rest of his team and forced him to play one of the best games of his career to save his team from an ECF exit, Rondo is an elite player, when healthy he is a top 2 pg in the league, this is a fact.[/QUOTE]
Only argument Rondo has for being elite and Top 2 PG is in the playoffs. A lot of that has to do with the team he had with the Big 3 and Doc Rivers coaching.
He hasn't shown he can lead a team in a full season and playoffs yet, though. Even he showed he was on the same level as KG, PP, Allen in 2010, the team struggled a bit before eventually winning the Atlantic and settling at #4. They turned the switch in the playoffs, obviously. Atlantic division was shitty too.
Rondo is only overrated when you call him a franchise player. He's not there yet. That's what YGS said, and he's completely correct.
[QUOTE=YouGotServed]what has he done the last two years? We both know the answer. hence saying he's an elite pg does make him one of if not the most overrated point guard in the league. fact.[/QUOTE]
It's not fair to use the last 2 years as a gauge to measure Rondo. It's like judging Kobe for his 6 games or whatever this season.
[QUOTE=YouGotServed]what has he done the last two years? [/QUOTE]
Led his team a game away from the ECF?
Name another Elite PG who have done anything close to the same please?
What has Dwight or the Rockets done in the last 2 years?
Weak
[QUOTE=DMV2]Only argument Rondo has for being elite and Top 2 PG is in the playoffs. A lot of that has to do with the team he had with the Big 3 and Doc Rivers coaching.
He hasn't shown he can lead a team in a full season and playoffs yet, though. Even he showed he was on the same level as KG, PP, Allen in 2010, the team struggled a bit before eventually winning the Atlantic and settling at #4. They turned the switch in the playoffs, obviously. Atlantic division was shitty too.
Rondo is only overrated when you call him a franchise player. He's not there yet. That's what YGS said, and he's completely correct.[/QUOTE]
Turning it up in the playoffs is exactly what you want from a player, someone who can elevate their play when it gets to the next level.
Now if you read my first post in this thread you will see that I said the big 3 and Doc are the ones that moulded him, but he hasn't really had the chance to show what he can do on his own yet.
[QUOTE=Black and White]It's not fair to use the last 2 years as a gauge to measure Rondo. It's like judging Kobe for his 6 games or whatever this season.[/QUOTE]
:cry: You can't do that. It's unfair to Rondo. Cry more bro.
Dude really say two years isn't a big enough sample size tho? lmao. I've heard it all folks.
yes it's completely fair. I don't believe in double standards. again people. the same kid who says Howard can't be judged by what he did 3 years ago is the same one claiming Rondo is an elite PG because of what he did 2 years ago.
lol
[QUOTE=YouGotServed]:cry: You can't do that. It's unfair to Rondo. Cry more bro.
Dude really say two years isn't a big enough sample size tho? lmao. I've heard it all folks.
yes it's completely fair. I don't believe in double standards. again people. the same kid who says Howard can't be judged by what he did 3 years ago is the same one claiming Rondo is an elite PG because of what he did 2 years ago.
lol[/QUOTE]
How much has Rondo played??? The dude went down with a serious injury, stop acting like a douche, and before he got injured the team he was playing on was barely healthy.
[QUOTE=Black and White]Turning it up in the playoffs is exactly what you want from a player, someone who can elevate their play when it gets to the next level.
Now if you read my first post in this thread you will see that I said the big 3 and Doc are the ones that moulded him, but he hasn't really had the chance to show what he can do on his own yet.[/QUOTE]
No doubt, playoffs are what you live for. I just don't think you can call him an elite player yet based on overall body of work. And it sucks that he's been injured and the Celtics are rebuilding.
But the good thing is, the Atlantic division sucks ass and should suck for the next couple of years, if Boston can get the right pieces then we'll see if Rondo can be that elite franchise player.
[QUOTE=DMV2]No doubt, playoffs are what you live for. I just don't think you can call him an elite player yet based on overall body of work. And it sucks that he's been injured and the Celtics are rebuilding.
But the good thing is, the Atlantic division sucks ass and should suck for the next couple of years, if Boston can get the right pieces then we'll see if Rondo can be that elite franchise player.[/QUOTE]
Thats what I'm saying, the team he was playing with when he got injured was barely a team that he could lead deep into the playoffs anyway, thats why I think that he is getting a raw deal from YGS being judged on a tanking season
to put it in perspective, the season he went down he was averaging
13.7/11/5 on 48% shooting
Chris Paul that season:
16.9/9/3.7 on 48%
Chris Paul was clearly better, but Rondo wasn't playing badly considering he is a pass first PG