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[QUOTE=3ball]How can each of the top 10 all-time Finals PER's that all won their Finals, all produce so much more than Lebron, yet Lebron's 2014 Finals PER is the same as theirs?
Lebron propped up his PER with shooting efficiency - it was an artificial prop-up because it didn't work - the production-driven PER's of the other guys did though.
Also, another question, why double team a guy that caps his shot attempts?[/QUOTE]
Except one of the mathematical flaws with PER is that it undervalues shooting efficiency...Brandon Jennings had a 15.6 this year despite shooting 48.6% TS and Waiters was around 15 as well with a sub-par shooting %
Also Wade lost in 2011..
If you want to see why you don't double him - go watch games 4 and 5 of the finals vs OKC when OKC started doubling him...
i edited the post at the top of the page... that might answer your question.
it didn't actually
In 2012 lebron didn't have the same shot efficiency strategy that he does now... he's bought into it more and more each year - this year, he really went to town trying to max his shooting efficiency.
This made him more exploitable than ever and susceptible to a smart opponent that decides not to double him - no double teams by the smart Spurs, and now his teammates can't produce and everyone wonders why.
[QUOTE=3ball]In 2012 lebron didn't have the same shot efficiency strategy that he does now... he's bought into it more and more each year - this year, he really went to town trying to max his shooting efficiency.
This made him more exploitable than ever and susceptible to a smart opponent that decides not to double him - no double teams by the smart Spurs, and now his teammates can't produce and everyone wonders why.[/QUOTE]
No smart opponent should try to hard-double him...
[QUOTE=3ball]In 2012 lebron didn't have the same shot efficiency strategy that he does now... he's bought into it more and more each year - this year, he really went to town trying to max his shooting efficiency.
This made him more exploitable than ever and susceptible to a smart opponent that decides not to double him - no double teams by the smart Spurs, and now his teammates can't produce and everyone wonders why.[/QUOTE]
:facepalm
Just stop posting, dude. Whenever LeBron was on a mini scoring binge, the Spurs were quick to double. LeBron tried to get him teammates involved, but they sucked ass. Don't act like you even saw a minute of the Finals or just basketball in general. It's pretty obvious that you have not idea what you're talking about.
Per? LeBron posted a top 5 PER and the Heat lost. What does it say about his teammates?
Again, it wasn't Miami's offense. It was Miami's defense. Even If LeBron scored 50 PPG on 45%, the Heat would've lost.
Kobetards. You people just don't seem to understand that defense is important or that team ball is better than hero ball.
as jordan have said, "you missed the shots you dont take." Yet being efficient is more important from this clowns. Clearly these idiots just look at stats coz they dont have the IQ to go for eye test. At the end of the day, kobe's style is more effective as it produced more rings than bran. Jordan has that style too and it gave him the GOAT title. But of course efficiency is all that matters. LOL
[QUOTE=knicksman]as jordan have said, "you missed the shots you dont take." [/QUOTE]
he didn't say that
[QUOTE=Warfan]This thread :facepalm
Bran doesn't take heaves so he's a statpadder. Bran 'steals' rebounds even though he does it to push the ball up the court quicker and maybe make a transition play. He passes it too much and tries to statpad assists, then you'll turn around and say he's such a ballhog.
And apparently his goal in this finals was too achieve a high PER?? :roll: :roll: Just stop embarrassing yourself.[/QUOTE]
you just exposed your IQ right there my friend. But what did I expect, a bran fan. Dumbest on this board
kevin love, no doubt.
7 pages in and no mention of Stephon Marbury and Steve Francis:no:
[QUOTE=3ball]Lebron is a stat-padder to me, but in a very sophisticated way.. It's not just the Finals - he's been playing that way all year and now he's very used to it.. comfortable with it.. it actually minimizes risk for him (risk of a tough shot, risk of blame), which he likes a lot.
[B]Think about it - how does Lebron's [url=http://fansided.com/2014/06/14/stat-day-lebron-james-leads-nba-finals-per/]31.8[/url] Finals PER through 4 games of the 2014 Finals make it onto the [url=http://espn.go.com/nba/playoffs/2012/story/_/page/FinalsPerformances-1/greatest-finals-performances-no-1]List of Top All-Time Finals PER's[/url], when his performance in this year's Finals had by far the [url=http://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?p=40319845#p40319845]least production[/url] of anyone on that list?
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Shooting efficiency.. that's how.. he makes up for his lack of production in comparison to the others by being the only one whose PER is based on shooting efficiency strategies and restricting shot attempts to seek high efficiency shots.
Not coincidentally, he's the only one on that list to lose it's Finals... (I should mention that he's also the only one on the list to not get consistently double teamed - which makes sense because why double-team someone that caps their shot attempts?)
So now we know that battling an opponent's production with production of your own, WINS (see all the other top Finals PER's), while propping up your PER with shooting efficiency strategies and battling the opponent's production with shooting efficiency rather than production of your own, loses (by record margins - it may as well have been you or me out there).[/QUOTE]
Where did you get LeBron's Finals' PER, and only after a certain amount of games?
I thought Lecramp made his team mates better, now all his stans say his team sucked. :confusedshrug:
[QUOTE=RoundMoundOfReb]Nobody cares about PER.....least of all NBA players..you seriously think that he looked up how PER is calculated and then decided to play in such a way to not maximize winning but rather PER?? :oldlol:
Also, he's not the only one on that list to have lost..[B]Wade lost in 2011[/B][/QUOTE]
Yeah... but because of Bron's epic meltdown :lol - without that they could have well swept that Mavs team.
Anyway: Wilt, Kobe, Bron, early MJ, K-Love is horrible to watch the way he pads boards, and will probs be an all-time-great statpadder by the end of his career.