Re: Hypocrisies in feminism
[QUOTE=RidonKs]one of us is mistaken on definition. we can either leave it at calling each other wrong or you can offer up your definition since it was you who initially made the claim i had to take issue with, namely that marxism and feminism are... whatever you said. sorta kinda two sides of the same coin or whatever.
not that this conversation is particularly productive, these concepts don't mean a whole lot in the abstract. [B]but i do think you're wrong in what you said and i do think our disagreement is a matter of definition.[/B][/QUOTE]
The issue with defining "feminism" is that in typical fashion of Marxist language, it is intentionally vague. The often will separate themselves as "culteral marxists" from "marxists" (economic marxist). It's all intentionally ambiguous.
I really don't care what you think on the subject as you are a blank slate. Now, I understand that you're not aware of that. You don't know that you don't know what you don't know.
You have a computer. It's not hard to look up the history of the feminist movement and it political goals.
Long story short......
Capitalism inherently breeds oppression, one of the brands being oppression of women. The only cure? A great socialist revolution.
I'm not going to write a giant essay, but here's the type of idiots you're dealing with. If you're interested in more information, look it up for yourself. I'm not going to do the work for you.
[URL="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBDUv7sLNck"]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBDUv7sLNck[/URL]
Re: Hypocrisies in feminism
No coincidence that the biggest feminist social justice warrior whiners at UK universities are also the most hardcore marxists and stalinists, and even maoists:facepalm :facepalm :facepalm
Spoken as someone who had to deal with these assholes on a regular basis:facepalm
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[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CB6TiRJNI-Q[/url]
Maddox getting real with this shit.
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Feminists disagree on what feminism means, let's leave it at that.
But I do think there are similarities between hardcore feminism and marxism. The trappings are the same. Both ideologies come from a basic notion of injustice you can easily identify with, but have a problematic relation with violence that ultimately doom them to failure. They view the situation in conflictual terms, one side against the other.
Both hardcore feminism and marxism combine two traits that are historically very dangerous together:
- a broad, extensible definition of "oppression" and "violence"
- a "fight the oppressors" mentality (ie, because they're oppressing us we have a right to fight back)
In combination, they lead to the war of all against all, as in the cultural revolution.
Marxism, however, has been much more dangerous so far, because it is generally much more extreme in its will to "fight the oppressor", but somewhat more specific about what "oppression" means, whereas feminism is the exact reverse: almost insanely broad definition of oppression (some feminists have turned the identification of new examples of oppression into an art form), but much lower propensity to violence (at least so far, perhaps because women are less violent in general). So while feminism is conceptually dubious (you could say it only succeeds insofar as it is hopelessly vague and ineffectual), it's at least somewhat benign.
Interestingly, radical antislavery movements from the 19th century are on the opposite side of feminism: very narrowly defined enemy (slavery, and nothing but), justifying violent resistance. They've also proved to be far less dangerous than marxism, because the violence stops at some point, once the goal is reached.
So it does seem as the truly dangerous idea is not marxism per se, but more generally notions of "open ended conflict".
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lol never listen to women's words .. they don't know what they [I]mean [/I]when they talk .. you lead, they follow .
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[QUOTE=dude77]lol never listen to women's words .. they don't know what they [I]mean [/I]when they talk .. you lead, they follow .
[IMG]https://i.imgur.com/7lrGIuC.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]
Bitches don
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bitches ain't shit but hoes & tricks.
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[QUOTE=diamenz]bitches ain't shit but hoes & tricks.[/QUOTE]
lick on deez nuts and suck the dick
get the **** out after you're done
and I hops in my ride to make a quick run
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We flip flop and serve hoes like flap jacks
(But we don
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[QUOTE=JohnFreeman]Women just need to accept that they are here to reproduce, cook, clean and fvck.[/QUOTE]
Get that chauvinist filth out of here.
Raising children, managing homes, worshipping God, being their husbands partner are other duties they got to do.
Women are extremely important and have crucial duties for the welfare of humanity.
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[QUOTE=Nick Young]No coincidence that the biggest feminist social justice warrior whiners at UK universities are also the most hardcore marxists and stalinists, and even maoists:facepalm :facepalm :facepalm
Spoken as someone who had to deal with these assholes on a regular basis:facepalm[/QUOTE]
They are probably less evil than the likes of you.