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people say evolution proves that god dont exist-who's to say that god didnt make his animals and shit with evolution preprogrammed into them? If he is all knowing, surely he'd know things need to adapt to survive, so giving them the ability to evolve with the times is the smartest thing to do. If anything, evolution just proves the existance of god even more.
GOd da bess
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the god debate, at least in terms of "do i want it to be true", comes down to freedom vs security
a) freedom to create your own future and design your own world with limitless potential and possibility
vs
b) security of an all powerful being watching over you and taking care of you and creating a personal connection with you
people want both of these things to be true. and that's why christianity has incorporated "free will" into its doctrine even though technically it doesn't make any sense and contradicts the nature of god.
but in my opinion if at some point in your life you haven't wanted both of these things, you're missing out.
as for what's actually possible, well we all know only the a) is possible and the b) isn't just impossible but it's quite dangerous when people take it too seriously.
[QUOTE=masonanddixon]I feel like you need some creator to exist in order to retain any sort of perspective and sanity as a man.
Atheism is a very dark, bleak, blotted out road to take and only becomes worse with age.[/QUOTE]
I've considered myself an atheist since a very young age and my life has only improved as I've gotten older. Granted I'm still only 19 but I just try to make the best of the short time I have here on earth. Plus I don't have to waste my time praying 5 times daily or waking up early every Sunday morning to go to church. Just because you need to believe there's some sort of afterlife to be happy doesn't mean it's the same for everybody. I don't want to die but I don't really fear death as I know exactly what's waiting for me when I die.
[QUOTE=Nick Young][B]people say evolution proves that god dont exist[/B]-who's to say that god didnt make his animals and shit with evolution preprogrammed into them? If he is all knowing, surely he'd know things need to adapt to survive, so giving them the ability to evolve with the times is the smartest thing to do. [B]If anything, evolution just proves the existance of god even more.
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GOd da bess
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The only people who say this are idiots like you trying to make the argument for atheism seem simplistic. Evolution does help to explain how the world came to be what it is today but it alone doesn't prove anything one way or the other. you're exactly right in saying if there was a God he could have made evolution himself. Many people of faith have tried to argue just that. Why would God invent evolution though? If he was so great he could just make everything perfect the first time. No need to adapt if you can survive in any conditions. Let me repeat though, Evolution does NOT prove weather God is real or not.
[QUOTE=BrownEye007]The only people who say this are idiots like you trying to make the argument for atheism seem simplistic. Evolution does help to explain how the world came to be what it is today but it alone doesn't prove anything one way or the other. you're exactly right in saying if there was a God he could have made evolution himself. Many people of faith have tried to argue just that. Why would God invent evolution though? If he was so great he could just make everything perfect the first time. No need to adapt if you can survive in any conditions. Let me repeat though, Evolution does NOT prove weather God is real or not.[/QUOTE]
Maybe God isn't "magic" like you all believe. Perhaps he's just a scientist or a group of scientists. Do our scientists make things "perfect"? No. Things can always be updated. But what if you could make it so that your creations update themselves? That would be brilliant.
religion is the opium of the masses.
[QUOTE=BrownEye007]:roll: read this post and can't stop laughing. Not gonna say anymore.[/QUOTE]
Truth hurts doesn't it non-believer?
[QUOTE=Penny37]Here are some other quotes from Einstein; quotes that came much later on on his life.
I feel bad for Jesus. This guy is misinterpreted by believers and non-believers.
Mohammed probably suffers from the same attribute. But, thankfully Buddha, less so.
What has happened and what we are also currently struggling with, is evolution. Evolution is not only a physical thing, it includes the philosophical world as well.
Since evolution takes for f
[QUOTE=ace23]It'd be cool if God were real and I was guaranteed a spot in heaven as the Bible describes it.[/QUOTE]
arent you the dude who groped his cousin or *********ed with his cousins panties or something?
You should be rooting against the bible being true.
[QUOTE=Patrick Chewing]God is real. Heaven and Hell are real.
To look at the world and the universe and convince yourself that it is all there "by chance" is ludicrous.[/QUOTE]
Its not by chance. Evolution works based on natural selection.
The universe is based on elements created inside stars and the supernova of stars.
there is no evidence to support the existence of god or heaven
[QUOTE=MavsSuperFan]arent you the dude who groped his cousin or *********ed with his cousins panties or something?
You should be rooting against the bible being true.[/QUOTE]
Cain, Able, and Seth were bangin their sisters, so maybe he'll get a pass. :confusedshrug:
[QUOTE=Brokenbeat]Cain, Able, and Seth were bangin their sisters, so maybe he'll get a pass. :confusedshrug:[/QUOTE]
:roll:
[QUOTE=BrownEye007]I've considered myself an atheist since a very young age and my life has only improved as I've gotten older. Granted I'm still only 19 but I just try to make the best of the short time I have here on earth. Plus I don't have to waste my time praying 5 times daily or waking up early every Sunday morning to go to church. Just because you need to believe there's some sort of afterlife to be happy doesn't mean it's the same for everybody. I don't want to die but I don't really fear death as I know exactly what's waiting for me when I die.[/QUOTE]
I was speaking more on the logical extensions of Atheism. If you don't believe in any sort of creator it makes it very difficult to piece together anything in life and it makes any end or purpose ultimately meaningless or without purpose. If there's no consequences or no relation to the decisions in life you make, how can you even truly exist?
[QUOTE=Nowitness]I'm sure a good amount of the people on this site believe in God and surrender their mind to a religion but are you happy believing it is true?
To Atheists, would you want it to be true if there were evidence?[/QUOTE]
I am only intimately familiar with Christianity.
I would not want Christianity's version of heaven and hell to be true.
Some of the acts Christianity deems morally acceptable I find abhorrent.
- Slavery, and enslaving people
- raping a woman if you marry her afterwards
- A woman raped inside a city
- turning a woman into a pillar of salt for looking back at a city being destroyed
-Sex with prepubescent girls.
-Killing a child born of your wife that is not yours.
-many crimes (that i consider minor or not crimes at all) that Christianity sees as warranting execution and/or torture.
-etc
Some of the acts Christianity finds morally unacceptable I find abhorrent and/or ridiculous.
- Slaves disobeying the masters
- Sex out of wedlock
- *********ion
- Being gay
- Wearing clothes of 2 different fabrics
- Eating Shellfish
- etc