Westbrook's dominance proves how easily MJ would be the best player today

[QUOTE=Prometheus]Well I would say that age-for-age, Jordan was visibly quicker and faster, but it's close enough that it's not worth harping on...

If body control / agility / dexterity / balance / hand-eye coordination factors into athleticism... at all... it is a monstrous advantage for Jordan over Westbrook...

But most obviously... he jumped significantly higher.[/QUOTE]
Why a monstrous advantage? What is your evidence?
And Jordan jumped higher? That's news to me. Pretty sure both are very similar leapers. I'd wager, without doing a full study, that they were within 2" of each other in terms of vert.

Pending your evidence, I'd say the athleticism is close enough to be a non-factor.

[QUOTE=kshutts1]Why a monstrous advantage? What is your evidence?
And Jordan jumped higher? That's news to me. Pretty sure both are very similar leapers. I'd wager, without doing a full study, that they were within 2" of each other in terms of vert.

Pending your evidence, I'd say the athleticism is close enough to be a non-factor.[/QUOTE]

Westbrook's draft profile has him listed at 36.5" but I'd be surprised if he was below 42". When he hit his head off the backboard in the ASG his head was very close to rim level...if it was at rim level he's at a 44.5" vertical.

Westbrook has similar straight line acceleration to Jordan once he gets moving (perhaps even a tad faster), but Jordan's first step was far superior. Jordan was also more agile laterally. You will never see a guy face his defender up and just choose a direction and blow by him regularly the way Jordan used to do. His first step was super fast and long. Coupled with his extra few inches on Westbrook, it made him impossible to stay in front of. He was also a far better leaper in every respect, far better body control, coordination, and reflexes.

I also lol @ these clowns who act like it's blasphemy to suggest that rookie Jordan was better than current Harden or Curry. Hysterical. Rookie MJ would sh!t on these clowns. :oldlol:

[QUOTE=OldSchoolBBall]Westbrook has similar straight line acceleration to Jordan once he gets moving (perhaps even a tad faster), but Jordan's first step was far superior. Jordan was also more agile laterally. You will never see a guy face his defender up and just choose a direction and blow by him regularly the way Jordan used to do. His first step was super fast and long. Coupled with his extra few inches on Westbrook, it made him impossible to stay in front of. He was also a far better leaper in every respect, far better body control, coordination, and reflexes.

[b]I also lol @ these clowns who act like it's blasphemy to suggest that rookie Jordan was better than current Harden or Curry. Hysterical. Rookie MJ would sh!t on these clowns. [/b]:oldlol:[/QUOTE]

Can't expect much of a valid opinion from those who only seen one era of basketball.

dont have much to add to the discussion but reading through this thread reminded me of my favorite jordan commercial. just thought id share.

[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IpfzaqIuR34[/url]

[QUOTE=OldSchoolBBall][B]Westbrook has similar straight line acceleration to Jordan once he gets moving (perhaps even a tad faster), but Jordan's first step was far superior. Jordan was also more agile laterally. [/B] You will never see a guy face his defender up and just choose a direction and blow by him regularly the way Jordan used to do. His first step was super fast and long. Coupled with his extra few inches on Westbrook, it made him impossible to stay in front of. He was also a far better leaper in every respect, far better body control, coordination, and reflexes.

I also lol @ these clowns who act like it's blasphemy to suggest that rookie Jordan was better than current Harden or Curry. Hysterical. Rookie MJ would sh!t on these clowns. :oldlol:[/QUOTE]

I agree except I would just say Russel is faster in terms of straight line acceleration. I think its a big enough difference to say that.

[QUOTE=OldSchoolBBall]Westbrook has similar straight line acceleration to Jordan once he gets moving (perhaps even a tad faster), but Jordan's first step was far superior. Jordan was also more agile laterally. You will never see a guy face his defender up and just choose a direction and blow by him regularly the way Jordan used to do. His first step was super fast and long. Coupled with his extra few inches on Westbrook, it made him impossible to stay in front of. He was also a far better leaper in every respect, far better body control, coordination, and reflexes.[/quote]
:applause:

Jordan was maybe / probably on PED's

Westbrook is definitely on PED's


Jordan still better athlete though