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[QUOTE=Jasper;14163823]one of the best fights I had ever seen... I suspect a rematch in the making...
Loma had not fought in a while , but he was a master... Lopez just out punched him.
* Lopez was rocked a few times and 8-10 looked pretty fatigued.[/QUOTE]
Why was it good to you? I expect it to be the worse of the light weight fights - Tank fight was better, I expect Devin Haney fight to be better and even Ryan Garcia's fight to be better. Loma rarely threw punches for six rounds and was outboxed in the 12th round by an inexperienced boxer. Not good when a fight goes 12 rounds and neither fighter shows an outstanding quality. Loma has gotten knocked down by several wimpy fighters and was noticeably scared of Lopez who doesn't punch like Tank. Haney is bigger than Lopez and way more skilled with his feet and hands. Tank punches harder than all of them.

[QUOTE=Pointguard;14175356]Why was it good to you? I expect it to be the worse of the light weight fights - Tank fight was better, I expect Devin Haney fight to be better and even Ryan Garcia's fight to be better. Loma rarely threw punches for six rounds and was outboxed in the 12th round by an inexperienced boxer. Not good when a fight goes 12 rounds and neither fighter shows an outstanding quality. Loma has gotten knocked down by several wimpy fighters and was noticeably scared of Lopez who doesn't punch like Tank. Haney is bigger than Lopez and way more skilled with his feet and hands. Tank punches harder than all of them.[/QUOTE]

2-time email champ Devin Haney?

Teo would slap that boy around.

[QUOTE=LoneyROY7;14175589]2-time email champ Devin Haney?

Teo would slap that boy around.[/QUOTE]

Loma wanted no parts of Devin and took the franchise belt to avoid him. And jumped at the chance to get to Teo. Teo was one of a few fighters to not stagger Loma in his like four of his last five fights. Teo could not win a bout on points with Haney. You dreaming.

[QUOTE=Pointguard;14175630]Loma wanted no parts of Devin and took the franchise belt to avoid him. And jumped at the chance to get to Teo. Teo was one of a few fighters to not stagger Loma in his like four of his last five fights. Teo could not win a bout on points with Haney. You dreaming.[/QUOTE]

Haney has faced a grand total of ZERO impressive fighters. Meanwhile, Teo is dominating a 12 round match with the best p4p boxer at the time. Haney likes to talk a lot, Teo walks it.

[QUOTE=LoneyROY7;14175647]Haney has faced a grand total of ZERO impressive fighters. Meanwhile, Teo is dominating a 12 round match with the best p4p boxer at the time. Haney likes to talk a lot, Teo walks it.[/QUOTE]

Teo looked bad against an overated guy who wasn't throwing punches. Teo was given the first 6 rounds and then inexplicably loses the next five to a guy he doesn't fear??? To a guy that fought like 90% of his fights against amateur's. A guy who has gotten knocked down by or lost to nearly half of his professional opponents??? He lost to a journey man in his second fight. Loma loses once every 8 fights and only has 16 professional fights??? Only one real impressive win in his career and has two big time losses. Amazingly is still ranked top 6 P4P. Its a joke. Teo had 11 below average rounds in a 12 round fight and then immediately wanted to run out of the best fighting class in boxing. Why? is he scared of several fighters?

[QUOTE=Pointguard;14176434][B]Teo looked bad against an overated guy who wasn't throwing punches.[/B] Teo was given the first 6 rounds and then inexplicably loses the next five to a guy he doesn't fear??? To a guy that fought like 90% of his fights against amateur's. A guy who has gotten knocked down by or lost to nearly half of his professional opponents??? He lost to a journey man in his second fight. Loma loses once every 8 fights and only has 16 professional fights??? Only one real impressive win in his career and has two big time losses. Amazingly is still ranked top 6 P4P. Its a joke. [B]Teo had 11 below average rounds in a 12 round fight[/B] and then immediately wanted to run out of the best fighting class in boxing. Why? is he scared of several fighters?[/QUOTE]

Literally no one else saw the fight that way. Not immediate post-fight reaction, not a week post-fight reaction. Literally no one. :oldlol:

That's a terrible take. Sorry.

[QUOTE=LoneyROY7;14176438]Literally no one else saw the fight that way. Not immediate post-fight reaction, not a week post-fight reaction. Literally no one. :oldlol:

That's a terrible take. Sorry.[/QUOTE]

You are just repeating what you read or the little that you did read: [url]https://www.google.com/search?q=loma+didn%27t+throw+punches+Lopez&rlz=1C1CHBD_enUS836US836&oq=loma+didn%27t+throw+punches+Lopez&aqs=chrome..69i57.25443j0j15&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8[/url] . The next five rounds were definitely not impressive for Teo. Why was he gassed fighting a guy who didn't throw punches? The fight was going to get attention because they way overhype anything Loma does. They are trying to actually compare Teo's performance to Tank's. Its pathetic.

Its simple. Tell us the impressive rounds. I will post the impressive round. Loma wasn't throwing punches the first six rounds. You can lie and say he did but the video will prove you wrong.

Ryan Garcia is fighting a recent Loma victim soon. Want to bet Ryan looks more impressive than Loma just as Tank looked way more impressive against Pedraza. Ryan is the B Level guy of Haney, Tank, Garcia, Lopez group.

But name the Teo rounds? I actually have only two rounds I liked. But still not impressive.

[QUOTE=Pointguard;14176434]Teo looked bad against an overated guy who wasn't throwing punches. Teo was given the first 6 rounds and then inexplicably loses the next five to a guy he doesn't fear??? To a guy that fought like 90% of his fights against amateur's. A guy who has gotten knocked down by or lost to nearly half of his professional opponents??? He lost to a journey man in his second fight. Loma loses once every 8 fights and only has 16 professional fights??? Only one real impressive win in his career and has two big time losses. Amazingly is still ranked top 6 P4P. Its a joke. Teo had 11 below average rounds in a 12 round fight and then immediately wanted to run out of the best fighting class in boxing. Why? is he scared of several fighters?[/QUOTE]

LMAO Casual gonna casuals.

Please stop posting about something like a record. Fight fans understand resume but casuals only look at record like a boxscore.

Teo took a great risk and beat a great fighter. Loma was fighting some of the best fighters all the way to 135. Teo won and that’s more impressive than whatever Tank done in his career of cherrypicking. I would bet Haney will beat him and Shakur too. Tank has fought no one. His last opponent was game and have an impressive resume but he just moved up so in essence, he fought a workhorse who has to jump 2 weight classes not even he’s not even a big puncher to begin with.

LMAO. Casuals. SMH

[QUOTE=Rooster;14177136]LMAO Casual gonna casuals.

Please stop posting about something like a record. Fight fans understand resume but casuals only look at record like a boxscore.

Teo took a great risk and beat a great fighter. Loma was fighting some of the best fighters all the way to 135. Teo won and that’s more impressive than whatever Tank done in his career of cherrypicking. I would bet Haney will beat him and Shakur too. Tank has fought no one. His last opponent was game and have an impressive resume but he just moved up so in essence, he fought a workhorse who has to jump 2 weight classes not even he’s not even a big puncher to begin with.

LMAO. Casuals. SMH[/QUOTE]:lol. "Please stop posting about something like a record."

You said resume and then failed to mention the content in the resume. 400 fights with only one impressive win. 395 fights against young amateur's and in ignorance you say don't mention his record? You sound real seasoned. Records don't mean anything right? Name me another fighter in the history of the sport considered the best of his generation with a record of 9 and 1 with a lost to a journeyman. Stayed top six, P4P, after being controlled and losing to a novice 23 year old that he cherry picked and Loma has a record of 16 and 2. Who would ignore that record? If you think a career record like that is a boxscore you can't be too bright. Or your thinking is a bit too "casual."

Loma's previous four fights were at lightweight so no excuse can be made there. Tank beat Pedraza in much more impressive fashion than Loma did - Tank knocked him out cold. Loma got knocked down by Linares, Pedraza, Gary Russell, and Campbell. Lost to a 23 year old and Salido. That's bad to be on the resume of 16 fights with only 1 impressive win. I think he can be great at 130 lbs. He obviously has problems with 135lbers.

LMAO Casuals. When you want to upgrade let me know.

[QUOTE=Pointguard;14177502]:lol. "Please stop posting about something like a record."

You said resume and then failed to mention the content in the resume. 400 fights with only one impressive win. 395 fights against young amateur's and in ignorance you say don't mention his record? You sound real seasoned. Records don't mean anything right? Name me another fighter in the history of the sport considered the best of his generation with a record of 9 and 1 with a lost to a journeyman. Stayed top six, P4P, after being controlled and losing to a novice 23 year old that he cherry picked and Loma has a record of 16 and 2. Who would ignore that record? If you think a career record like that is a boxscore you can't be too bright. Or your thinking is a bit too "casual."

Loma's previous four fights were at lightweight so no excuse can be made there. Tank beat Pedraza in much more impressive fashion than Loma did - Tank knocked him out cold. Loma got knocked down by Linares, Pedraza, Gary Russell, and Campbell. Lost to a 23 year old and Salido. That's bad to be on the resume of 16 fights with only 1 impressive win. I think he can be great at 130 lbs. He obviously has problems with 135lbers.

LMAO Casuals. When you want to upgrade let me know.[/QUOTE]

LMAO. Loma only got knock down on in his career.:no: He got clipped by Linares who was considered the best 135 pounder at the time Loma fought him. Only casuals think he was some slouch.

And only Casuals think Tank have some kinda impressive resume . Beating Linares is better than anyone on Tank resume, and using triangle theory like the Pedraza is one of perfect example of casual fan sighting. You obviously know shit anything about boxing.

A puncher is expected to knockout sacrificial lambs. Loma is not a puncher . Tank is. Please stop trying to make a comparison if you have no idea about certain styles. It’s like saying Foreman knocking out Frazier while Ali can’t .:facepalm

Tank has been fighting and has fought no one. He has to cherrypicked a smaller fighter to entertain casuals . It’s equivalent of Loma making Rigo move up except Rigo was actually a masterful boxer than Santa Cruz can ever be. Loma has fought The Who’s who. Russell was considered the best in his weight class, Walters was also by the time Loma fought them. And Linares was also considered the best lightweight around Loma bodysnatched him.

There’s no one with 16 pro fights who has more impressive resume than Loma. Please look at the history of boxing and name me one of who has more impressive resume than him on their first 16 fights? :confusedshrug: Bar none until Teo came and beat him.

Casual gonna casuals:oldlol:

[QUOTE=Rooster;14177508]LMAO. Loma only got knock down on in his career.:no: He got clipped by Linares who was considered the best 135 pounder at the time Loma fought him. Only casuals think he was some slouch. [/quote]

In that fight he was a slouch.

[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qgAXBVxM5-s[/url] Heads snap and he goes down to one knee. They erased this like they erased his loss. But name me another fighter where losses get erased? And knock downs.
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And only Casuals think Tank have some kinda impressive resume . Beating Linares is better than anyone on Tank resume, and using triangle theory like the Pedraza is one of perfect example of casual fan sighting. You obviously know shit anything about boxing. [/quote]
Common fighters are a good cross measure: You can tell Tank has way more power than Loma through Pedraza. Its not questionable - even to a novice like you. Its obvious that Tank has more dynamite in his punch than any other lightweight. His knockout ratio is like a young Mike Tyson.

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A puncher is expected to knockout sacrificial lambs. Loma is not a puncher . Tank is. Please stop trying to make a comparison if you have no idea about certain styles. It’s like saying Foreman knocking out Frazier while Ali can’t .:facepalm [/quote] Ali never got outboxed by a 23 year opponent like Loma did. Had Teo not tired, Loma would have been totally dominated boxing wise by a puncher!!! How is that for style?


Pedraza was undefeated when he fought Tank. He was far from a sacrificial lamb. Why was Loma fighting Tank's sacrificial lambs a year later?
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Tank has been fighting and has fought no one. He has to cherrypicked a smaller fighter to entertain casuals. It’s equivalent of Loma making Rigo move up except Rigo was actually a masterful boxer than Santa Cruz can ever be. [/quote]
Rigo never fought outside of Bantam weight and then at age 38 has to move up two weight divisions to fight Loma who was at a third weight division away from Bantam weight on fight night. Like Loma fighting Earl Spence. [quote]
Loma has fought The Who’s who. Russell was considered the best in his weight class, Walters was also by the time Loma fought them. And Linares was also considered the best lightweight around Loma bodysnatched him. [/quote]
Russell was the only impressive win on his record.
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There’s no one with 16 pro fights who has more impressive resume than Loma. Please look at the history of boxing and name me one of who has more impressive resume than him on their first 16 fights? :confusedshrug: Bar none until Teo came and beat him.

Casual gonna casuals:oldlol:[/QUOTE]
Hahahaha, he was in his prime and at age 25 for his first fight and was cherry picking by his second fight when he lost an undeserved title fight to Solido, an ok fighter that he was scared to have a rematch with. The current crop of lightweights, Devin Haney, Teo, Ryan Garcia, Shakur and Tank by the age 25 will all have way more impressive names on their resumes [B]before [/B] their primes. I have Loma losing to the majority of them while he is on his tail end of his prime. I don''t know who he will even fight in that group.

On the real, if you think you are being clever - you should know a little better.

[QUOTE=Pointguard;14177645]In that fight he was a slouch.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qgAXBVxM5-s[/URL] Heads snap and he goes down to one knee. They erased this like they erased his loss. But name me another fighter where losses get erased? And knock downs.

Common fighters are a good cross measure: You can tell Tank has way more power than Loma through Pedraza. Its not questionable - even to a novice like you. Its obvious that Tank has more dynamite in his punch than any other lightweight. His knockout ratio is like a young Mike Tyson.

Ali never got outboxed by a 23 year opponent like Loma did. Had Teo not tired, Loma would have been totally dominated boxing wise by a puncher!!! How is that for style?


Pedraza was undefeated when he fought Tank. He was far from a sacrificial lamb. Why was Loma fighting Tank's sacrificial lambs a year later?

Rigo never fought outside of Bantam weight and then at age 38 has to move up two weight divisions to fight Loma who was at a third weight division away from Bantam weight on fight night. Like Loma fighting Earl Spence.
Russell was the only impressive win on his record.

Hahahaha, he was in his prime and at age 25 for his first fight and was cherry picking by his second fight when he lost an undeserved title fight to Solido, an ok fighter that he was scared to have a rematch with. The current crop of lightweights, Devin Haney, Teo, Ryan Garcia, Shakur and Tank by the age 25 will all have way more impressive names on their resumes [B]before [/B] their primes. I have Loma losing to the majority of them while he is on his tail end of his prime. I don''t know who he will even fight in that group.

On the real, if you think you are being clever - you should know a little better.[/QUOTE]

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LMAO so your logic is Garcia is more devastating puncher than Tank because he knock out a guy in one round while it took Tank to knock him out in 8 rounds. Common opponents like triangle theory is for Casuals.:oldlol: Styles makes fights in boxing.

and Age has nothing to with prime in boxing. El Radar was washed up by the time he was 24 and BHop still bearing alphabet title holders at 40. JMM was way better in his 30s. Jack Britton, Jersey Joe Walcott , Archie Moore, Maravilla
Winky , Liston etc. Prime in boxing is when physical hit the mental aspect and skills were already polished enough. This is not NBA Casual mofo.

Records like undefeated in boxing is CASUALS talk. Fight fans understand level of competition.

And Lol about Russell was the only good fighter. Casuals talk again. At one point Walters and Linares were the man in their weight class by the time Loma fought them. Tank has been at 130 for years and still has not fought Berchert, the numero uno at 130. ThatÂ’s a true definition of cherrypicking. Teo has been daring Loma and actually fought him. ThatÂ’s a true definition of great accomplishment comes from great risk.:bowdown:

Casuals gonna be casual:oldlol:

:roll:

Again name me a fighter again who has better resume than Loma on their first 16 fights instead of using age like a CASUAL do.

Fury would KO Usyk if they fight next year

[QUOTE=Rooster;14177682]:roll:
LMAO so your logic is Garcia is more devastating puncher than Tank because he knock out a guy in one round while it took Tank to knock him out in 8 rounds. Common opponents like triangle theory is for Casuals.:oldlol: Styles makes fights in boxing. [/quote]
I never said anything like that. I said Teo outboxed Loma and would have dominated Loma for ten or eleven rounds with his boxing skills if he didn't tire out. It was in Loma style that that he was dominating Loma. That was a boxing fight.
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and Age has nothing to with prime in boxing. El Radar was washed up by the time he was 24 and BHop still bearing alphabet title holders at 40. JMM was way better in his 30s. Jack Britton, Jersey Joe Walcott , Archie Moore, Maravilla
Winky , Liston etc. Prime in boxing is when physical hit the mental aspect and skills were already polished enough. This is not NBA Casual mofo.[/quote]

By nature human biology peaks in physical endeavors. Its not as arbitrary as taking exceptions from 60 years ago and saying look human biology doesn't follow rules. We aren't arbitrarily designed - there might be exceptions but only a brain dead idiot thinks there aren't optimal ages of performance in any physical sport. You are trying too hard. Use your common sense!

El Radar wasn't washed up at 24 he would have been losing to Hearns and Sugar Ray at any age.
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Records like undefeated in boxing is CASUALS talk. Fight fans understand level of competition.[/quote]
Getting outboxed by a novice puncher who is only 23 years old is bad for your record when you only have 14 wins. Couple that with a loss to a journey man with 14 loses. That matters.
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And Lol about Russell was the only good fighter. Casuals talk again. At one point Walters and Linares were the man in their weight class by the time Loma fought them. [/quote] Doesn't mean they were good.
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Tank has been at 130 for years and still has not fought Berchert, the numero uno at 130. ThatÂ’s a true definition of cherrypicking. Teo has been daring Loma and actually fought him. ThatÂ’s a true definition of great accomplishment comes from great risk.:bowdown: [/quote]
Loma requested the franchise belt to avoid the WBC mandatory. Talk about cherry picking??? Teo was the safer fight as Haney is bigger, way more skilled, has better foot movement, better jab, better reach, better combos, better ring generalship, better defense, makes better adjustments than TEO.
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Casuals gonna be casual:oldlol:

:roll: [/quote]
You are going to be yourself. You don't have an option - I understand.[quote]

Again name me a fighter again who has better resume than Loma on their first 16 fights instead of using age like a CASUAL do.[/QUOTE]
He got a severe age handicap. At age 25 and the next 16 fights there are no greats with a worse resume. Its just a freak way his career and cherry picking worked with and against him. Think about that.

[QUOTE=Pointguard;14177804]I never said anything like that. I said Teo outboxed Loma and would have dominated Loma for ten or eleven rounds with his boxing skills if he didn't tire out. It was in Loma style that that he was dominating Loma. That was a boxing fight.


By nature human biology peaks in physical endeavors. Its not as arbitrary as taking exceptions from 60 years ago and saying look human biology doesn't follow rules. We aren't arbitrarily designed - there might be exceptions but only a brain dead idiot thinks there aren't optimal ages of performance in any physical sport. You are trying too hard. Use your common sense!

El Radar wasn't washed up at 24 he would have been losing to Hearns and Sugar Ray at any age.

Getting outboxed by a novice puncher who is only 23 years old is bad for your record when you only have 14 wins. Couple that with a loss to a journey man with 14 loses. That matters.
Doesn't mean they were good.

Loma requested the franchise belt to avoid the WBC mandatory. Talk about cherry picking??? Teo was the safer fight as Haney is bigger, way more skilled, has better foot movement, better jab, better reach, better combos, better ring generalship, better defense, makes better adjustments than TEO.

You are going to be yourself. You don't have an option - I understand.
He got a severe age handicap. At age 25 and the next 16 fights there are no greats with a worse resume. Its just a freak way his career and cherry picking worked with and against him. Think about that.[/QUOTE]

LMAO. How the fact Loma is cherrypicking when he fought the 3 best fighters on his weight class and Tank has not fought anyone. Not only he fought The Who’s who but he also fought grizzly veteran like Salido in his 2nd fight and fought Teo. Tank never done such as a thing in his 24 fights. :facepalm:lol

LMAO. Casuals can’t different boxing age. Casuals like to use records without having the ability to break down resume.

LMAO. Does it mean they were good. LOL. Casuals can’t talk in retrospect. Linares was the best 135 fighter for 2 years before Loma fought him. And Walters was the most feared puncher at that weight class when Loma tax his ass. Berchert was the best 130 fight for as long as Tank and he never dared to fight. He fighting slew of gatekeepers and Santa Cruz who’s pretty good but does not belong in 130. Comparing Tank resume to Loma resume is clueless Casual will do. In fact Tank never fought any top 5 fighter in his weight class nor any weight class. That’s what you call a true cherrypicker.

Haney will be the best 135 and I believed in him and his team. But Loma wanted to be the first undisputed 135 champ since IBF and WBO
popped in the scene. Haney hold a regular meaningless belt. Teo was not safer, he has a major belt and has a better resume than Haney. Only casuals think different.

El Radar was a wash up at 24. His last great fight was taking the fight to Duran and beat him. By 24 , he started losing to journeyman etc. Again fight fans know this and you are a casual.

All your replies is how Casuals talk.