Round 2!

[url]https://www.deseret.com/2021/6/12/22528751/donovan-mitchell-says-that-hes-fine-but-its-clear-that-he-playing-through-some-pain-injury-utah-jazz[/url]

[QUOTE] [h=1]Donovan Mitchell says that he’s fine, but it’s clear that he’s playing through some pain[/h]
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Maybe he'll let the medical staff do their job next time instead of forcing his way onto the floor when he's not ready.

[QUOTE]“It’s part of the game,” Rudy Gobert said. “There is going to be some pain, but as long as it doesn’t get worse, and he’s still able to move and to play, hopefully it will be okay. I think he’s doing everything he can to try to be out there even though sometimes it might be painful.”

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does seem to be getting worse though no?

[url]https://www.deseret.com/2021/6/12/22528750/analysis-utah-jazz-drop-game-3-la-clippers-donovan-mitchell-paul-george-kawhi-leonard-nba-playoffs[/url]

[QUOTE]The Jazz had a horrible night when it comes to ball movement and execution. There was a ton of iso ball, the Jazz assisted on just 15 of their 36 made shots (84 field goal attempts) and had 16 turnovers.

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Mitchell and Clarkson. What everyone loves! :cheers:

[QUOTE]Georges Niang had one good lob pass to Rudy Gobert, but that barely made up for his one really bad lob, and it certainly didn’t make up for his missed shots and poor decision making. It was a rough night for Niang.

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and COTY pulled him. Why won't he pull anyone else when they suck?

[QUOTE]Miye Oni isn’t ready for this.

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and yet he's playing instead of Ersan or trying something else

Didn't really mention the horrible D which was the game

Posted by [URL="https://www.sbnation.com/users/IAMCAKEMAN"]IAMCAKEMAN[/URL] on [URL="https://www.slcdunk.com/2021/6/12/22531488/utah-jazz-lose-game-3-to-the-los-angeles-clippers-nba-playoffs-donovan-mitchell-paul-george#541312594"]Jun 13, 2021 | 11:14 AM[/URL]

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You don't know that. They are better defensively and the ball movement is better without Mitchell

[QUOTE]I doubt it but think Quin should consider playing Ersan who has more experience.
Posted by [URL="https://www.sbnation.com/users/CJ%20Livinghousen"]CJ Livinghousen[/URL] on [URL="https://www.slcdunk.com/2021/6/12/22531488/utah-jazz-lose-game-3-to-the-los-angeles-clippers-nba-playoffs-donovan-mitchell-paul-george#541306020"]Jun 13, 2021 | 12:39 AM[/URL]
[/QUOTE] [URL="https://www.slcdunk.com/2021/6/12/22531488/utah-jazz-lose-game-3-to-the-los-angeles-clippers-nba-playoffs-donovan-mitchell-paul-george#541306020"]

ersan should play regardless but won't

[/URL][QUOTE][URL="https://www.slcdunk.com/2021/6/12/22531488/utah-jazz-lose-game-3-to-the-los-angeles-clippers-nba-playoffs-donovan-mitchell-paul-george#541306020"]
[/URL][URL="https://www.slcdunk.com/2021/6/12/22531488/utah-jazz-lose-game-3-to-the-los-angeles-clippers-nba-playoffs-donovan-mitchell-paul-george#541306020"]The five minutes before halftime he took the shot the first time he had the ball no matter where he and the other options were. Running up and down the court constantly with playoff intensity is tough, doing it for nothing several times in a row even more.
He played to keep his playoff average, not to win.
The minutes management was logical. [/URL] Posted by [URL="https://www.sbnation.com/users/Bigfee"]Bigfee[/URL] on [URL="https://www.slcdunk.com/2021/6/12/22531488/utah-jazz-lose-game-3-to-the-los-angeles-clippers-nba-playoffs-donovan-mitchell-paul-george#541306552"]Jun 13, 2021 | 3:25 AM[/URL]

[URL="https://www.slcdunk.com/2021/6/12/22531488/utah-jazz-lose-game-3-to-the-los-angeles-clippers-nba-playoffs-donovan-mitchell-paul-george#541306020"]

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best player in Jazz history!

[QUOTE] You straight up say that he was stat hunting implying that he cares more about his stats than wining. That is one of the worst takes I’ve ever heard. He was cooking during that quarter. The game got away because the Jazz could not make a stop.

You think he was playing hero ball in the 2nd half of the 1st game when he did the same thing and led them to victory. Do you think Kawhi was playing hero ball at one point when he scored something like 14 straight for the Clips and no one else took a shot?

Implying that the best offensive player is selfish is just playing stupid when he has shown nothing in his career to show that. Saying that he should have gotten his teammates more involved is true, saying he is stat hunting is wrong.

I actually thought his reads were good in the 2nd quarter. Thought they were bad on his drives in the 4th.

Posted by [URL="https://www.sbnation.com/users/Patdatass"]Patdatass[/URL] on [URL="https://www.slcdunk.com/2021/6/12/22531488/utah-jazz-lose-game-3-to-the-los-angeles-clippers-nba-playoffs-donovan-mitchell-paul-george#541309503"]Jun 13, 2021 | 8:37 AM[/URL]

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Kawai plays D. If Mitchell was all about winning he would too
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And offensively we continue to play 4 on 5. He had 2 flipping baskets off of assists and they were both from passes by the much criticized Niang. Donny, JC, Joe, Bogie can’t throw him a lob? How much is him not fighting strong for position, or guys not looking, or our spacing, or them just clogging passing lanes I don’t know. But we gotta do better.

Posted by [URL="https://www.sbnation.com/users/SKMike"]SKMike[/URL] on [URL="https://www.slcdunk.com/2021/6/12/22531488/utah-jazz-lose-game-3-to-the-los-angeles-clippers-nba-playoffs-donovan-mitchell-paul-george#541308118"]Jun 13, 2021 | 7:13 AM[/URL]

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JC and Mitchell don't pass except when the end of the quarter clock is running out. Bojan is better off not passing. Easier to just take a 3!

[QUOTE]The Jazz have to prove that they are not a flawed team in the playoffs, including the coaches (so much tougher to do without Conley). Leonard had 12 rebounds, Rudy only had 10. That can’t happen again.

I haven’t lost all hope yet, but this series is probably going back to SLC tied 2/2.
Posted by [URL="https://www.sbnation.com/users/PlayfasterJazz"]PlayfasterJazz[/URL] on [URL="https://www.slcdunk.com/2021/6/12/22531488/utah-jazz-lose-game-3-to-the-los-angeles-clippers-nba-playoffs-donovan-mitchell-paul-george#541308747"]Jun 13, 2021 | 7:56 AM[/URL]

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they are flawed and it starts with COTY

[url]https://www.slcdunk.com/2021/6/12/22531488/utah-jazz-lose-game-3-to-the-los-angeles-clippers-nba-playoffs-donovan-mitchell-paul-george[/url]

[QUOTE][INDENT] Donovan Mitchell, when asked about Mike Conley's in game interactions: "He's helping me with making reads. We gotta get Bojan more involved. … Tonight, I was quick to force up some shots, and I’m not proud of it. And [Mike] pointed that out to me."
— Eric Walden (@tribjazz) [URL="https://twitter.com/tribjazz/status/1403921395642425351?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw"]June 13, 2021[/URL] [/INDENT]
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always talks a big game afterwards but it never translates to the next game

[QUOTE]Mitchell is obviously playing through pain. Will playing through the injury be easier with Conley? The Jazz can hope and hopefully that leads to Mitchell playing off ball more. At least, that’s what Jazz fans are hoping for, but time will tell if Conley plays in Game 4. Him traveling with the team seems like a good sign of him playing, but the Jazz are being very careful with Conley to make sure they don’t aggravate the injury. Perhaps being up 2-1 now will provide more pressure to get him on the floor.

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Mitchell off ball would certainly be ideal oh and Clarkson at the end of the bench!

[QUOTE]Finally, we need to talk about Rudy Gobert’s minutes. Obviously the Jazz cleared their bench when the game got out of hand, but Rudy Gobert ended with 29 minutes. It’s just unacceptable. This was probably Rudy Gobert’s worst game of the playoffs and it’s still better having him out there than Derrick Favors who has now had 2 incredibly rough games in a row. Rudy Gobert should be playing no less then 36 minutes per game and should really be around 40. It nearly cost the Jazz last game if it weren’t for some incredible shots by Jordan Clarkson and Joe Ingles when the Jazz were down two with minutes left. What is Quin Snyder waiting for? This is it, there is nothing else to wait for, if you don’t play your best guys now, you may not get a chance in the future. And we’ve seen what happens with this stubbornness in the past to play outside of rote-tations. The Jazz gave up a 3-1 lead to the Nuggets. Gobert has to do his part to be his most effective when he’s on the floor, and he wasn’t good enough tonight, but Quin Snyder also needs to keep him out there longer. Gobert is a future hall of famer, the DPOY, and affects everything. It doesn’t matter how effective your system is, how creative your ATO plays are, if you don’t have your best players on the floor, it makes it all meaningless.

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it was all Tony Bradley's fault!

[QUOTE][B]Oni and Niang Have Been Gargbage This Series[/B]

If Conley comes back healthy, hopefully Oni wont get anymore minutes and Niang’s will be reduced, they have been hot garbage this series.


Posted by [URL="https://www.sbnation.com/users/ArcticSlicer"]ArcticSlicer[/URL] on [URL="https://www.slcdunk.com/2021/6/12/22531488/utah-jazz-lose-game-3-to-the-los-angeles-clippers-nba-playoffs-donovan-mitchell-paul-george#541305749"]Jun 12, 2021 | 11:46 PM[/URL]

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too bad coach won't try anything else

[QUOTE] But I believe that Conley’s absence from the lineup is largely due to an overabundance of caution.

We saw this in play with Donovan in the first round. The Jazz deemed themselves to be the superior team without him, so why risk playing him and risk reinjuring their star player.

I think the same attitude applies here. I think the Jazz will sit Conley until they believe the risk of losing the series outweighs the risk of making the injury worse and him not being available in a future series.
The fact is, playoff basketball is more intense featuring better competition. Especially in the western conference where any team is capable of beating another if they do not demonstrate proper respect for their opponent.

I believe Conley is still injured… but I also believe he could play. The question is not so much about his health, but more about how much the Jazz fear their opponent and the potential of not advancing to the next round.

Posted by [URL="https://www.sbnation.com/users/I'mJazzed"]I'mJazzed[/URL] on [URL="https://www.slcdunk.com/2021/6/12/22531488/utah-jazz-lose-game-3-to-the-los-angeles-clippers-nba-playoffs-donovan-mitchell-paul-george#541310185"]Jun 13, 2021 | 9:11 AM[/URL]

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we're seeing it right now. What if Mitchell had waited until the medical team cleared him instead of forcing himself back on to the court? Would he be having problems every game with his ankle? They didn't need him to beat Memphis. Maybe it would have taken more game but they were going down

[QUOTE][B]Maybe they were wrong.[/B]

We sweep the Grizz (obviously not a guarantee), We get an additional two days off between series, and most importantly, Conley doesn’t get hurt in Game 5.

[QUOTE] Zach Padmore: Per his Instagram story, [URL="http://twitter.com/ZP12Hoops/status/1403448456438497286"]Nah’Shon “Bones” Hyland had a pre-draft workout with the Utah Jazz.[/URL] One of the best three-point shooters in the 2021 NBA Draft.

– via [URL="http://twitter.com/ZP12Hoops/status/1403448456438497286"]Twitter[/URL]


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who's doing the workouts now?

pg which is what they should be looking at unless they think Forrest will develop a jumper. 2nd rounder it sounds like though

Mirjam Swanson: [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]Nicolas Batum says he loves playing with Rudy Gobert when they’re teammates for Team France: “I know I have this big guy protecting, just in case.”[/URL]
– via [URL="https://twitter.com/MirjamSwanson"]Twitter MirjamSwanson[/URL]




Mirjam Swanson: [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]Ty Lue: “We can’t go down 10-0, 14-3, we can’t continue to dig ourselves a hole….[/URL] we gotta do a better job of that.”
– via [URL="https://twitter.com/MirjamSwanson"]Twitter MirjamSwanson[/URL]






Andrew Greif: [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]Ty Lue says of friend and assistant Chauncey Billups, a candidate for several head coaching openings, “he’s ready” to take over a team[/URL].
– via [URL="https://twitter.com/AndrewGreif"]Twitter AndrewGreif[/URL]







Mirjam Swanson: [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]Ty Lue on his assistant coach/good buddy Chauncey Billups: “I wanted to coach with him when I was in Cleveland but he didn’t want to coach. I tease him all the time, he missed out on $15-18 million dollars”[/URL] because he would’ve been a head coach for a few seasons already.

– via [URL="https://twitter.com/MirjamSwanson"]Twitter MirjamSwanson[/URL]

Law Murray: [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]Nicolas Batum on limiting Rudy Gobert’s impact: “He’s got three trophies in four years! No one has figured it out yet!”[/URL]
– via [URL="https://twitter.com/LawMurrayTheNU"]Twitter LawMurrayTheNU[/URL]




Eric Walden: Clippers’ Nic [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]Batum said his job in this series to put Rudy Gobert into unfamiliar situations and take him away from the hoop. Said his national-team familiarity with Rudy and his friendship don’t make it any easier,[/URL] because Rudy “is the best in the league” defensively.

– via [URL="https://twitter.com/tribjazz"]Twitter tribjazz[/URL]







Mirjam Swanson: [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]Nicolas Batum on his comfort playing at the 5: “It’s new for me… so I’m learning, a learning process for me during the playoff.[/URL] I just do my best to make life easier for my two superstars. And Reggie and Luke.”
– via [URL="https://twitter.com/MirjamSwanson"]Twitter MirjamSwanson[/URL]

[url]https://www.ksl.com/article/50185511/from-the-comments-stepping-away-from-the-ledge-after-the-jazzs-game-3-loss[/url]

[QUOTE]The Clippers told Utah the game plan ahead of Game 3. Before the game, Lue said that whenever Derrick Favors is on the court, they are going to right at him. The result? The Jazz finished with a defensive rating of 169 in the 15 minutes Favors players. That's pretty awful. Actually, it's more than awful.

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but I thought it was Bradley's fault?

[QUOTE]Favors has scored just 4 points in the entire series. What's worse? He's not even the least productive bench player for the Jazz. Georges Niang has only 3 points this series and hasn't made a shot since Game 1. Miye Oni, meanwhile, hasn't scored in over 20 minutes of game action.

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and COTY does nothing different

[QUOTE]If that's all Utah's getting, then Snyder may just consider changing up some rotations — something he has been hesitant to do this season. To their benefit, the Jazz have had one of the most consistent rotations in the NBA. But as seen by the Clippers, who seemed to have found something by adding Patrick Beverly and Terrence Mann to the rotation as the series has gone on, sometimes change can provide a spark.

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especially when you have better players not playing

[QUOTE]Gobert is averaging 33 minutes in the series — a number that could go up. He struggled in Game 3, too, but Gobert's been Utah's best player for much of the season. The Jazz could also look at Ersan Ilyasova, who has had plenty of playoff experience. He's not going to solve any defensive issues, but he might provide more of an offensive punch than what the Jazz are getting.

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I like his D, He's physical and smart

[QUOTE]Trent Forrest? Juwan Morgan? Matt Thomas? Playing an already banged-up team more minutes? The best options might just be to hope Niang and Favors are better.

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Morgan and Brantley

[url]https://kslsports.com/461445/clippers-look-to-even-series-in-game-four-against-jazz/[/url]

[QUOTE]Game four’s key matchup will pair the Jazz’s Joe Ingles against the Clippers Jackson. Ingles has been a major spark for the Jazz in games two and three, averaging 19 points, 4.0 rebounds, and 3.0 assists while shooting a staggering 62 percent from the floor and 60 percent from the three-point line.

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I imagine Mitchell and Clarkson spend most of the time on Jackson where Conley is obviously missed big time

[url]https://www.deseret.com/2021/6/13/22530145/what-the-utah-jazz-need-to-improve-on-in-game-4-against-the-la-clippers-nba-playoffs[/url]

[QUOTE]And there were a few instances when Mitchell drove into three defenders and took an ill-advised shot in the lane.

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he's good at that!

[url]https://www.deseret.com/2021/6/13/22530147/how-the-la-clippers-are-feeling-after-game-3-victory-over-the-utah-jazz-nba-playoffs[/url]

[QUOTE]“We talk about it and we have to do something,” Nic Batum said Sunday. “We have to adjust right away. We can’t wait being down eight, 10, 12, depends, whatever, before we get a reaction. To be up 10, that would be nice...so we have to work on that and not put ourselves in a bad position by doing that.”

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especially against a team that's usually on the other end of that at least to start the game

[url]https://hoopshabit.com/2021/06/12/utah-jazz-3-crucial-goals-playoff-run/2/[/url]

[QUOTE][h=2]Utah Jazz playoff goals No. 1: Force more turnovers[/h][/QUOTE]

not what they do

[QUOTE][h=2]Utah Jazz playoff goals No. 2: Keep feeding Mitchell and Clarkson[/h][/QUOTE]

recipe for disaster

[QUOTE][h=2]Utah Jazz playoff goals No. 3: Keep their best players on the floor[/h][/QUOTE]

that's not happening obviously and won't

[URL="https://theathletic.com/2652116/2021/06/15/without-mike-conley-jazz-struggle-against-clippers-series-now-tied/?source=rss"]“I think we have to take some of the things that we did do well and we have to find a way to replicate them,” Jazz coach Quin Snyder said. “I think it’s hard to give up 38 free throws and overcome some of the things that we did tonight.[/URL] In order to do that, we have to be perfect on the other end, and we weren’t that, either. I think we were playing hard, but we weren’t playing smart. And we weren’t connected, and that showed in the 13-point first quarter. We didn’t put ourselves in situations to be successful.”
– via [URL="https://theathletic.com/2652116/2021/06/15/without-mike-conley-jazz-struggle-against-clippers-series-now-tied/?source=rss"]Tony Jones @ The Athletic[/URL]







The Clippers would outscore the Jazz 18-1 on second-chance points and completely shut them out on the fast break, outscoring the Jazz there 12-0. It’s the first time all season that the Jazz failed to score a single point on the fast break. [URL="https://theathletic.com/2652116/2021/06/15/without-mike-conley-jazz-struggle-against-clippers-series-now-tied/?source=rss"]That more than offset yet another night where the Jazz made more 3s than the Clippers (17-of-42 for Jazz, 15-of-37 for Clippers). “Just paying attention to detail, I thought was great,” Lue said. “They made some desperation 3s to get them back in the game a little bit.[/URL] Overall, I loved where we were at, I loved our physicality and I loved the way we battled.”
– via [URL="https://theathletic.com/2652116/2021/06/15/without-mike-conley-jazz-struggle-against-clippers-series-now-tied/?source=rss"]Tony Jones @ The Athletic[/URL]

[url]https://www.ksl.com/article/50186279/jazz-clippers-live-blog-3-takeaways-from-utahs-series-equalizing-loss-to-la[/url]

[QUOTE][B]1. Don't blame Donovan[/B]

After a horrific start, Mitchell took a 29-point deficit and slowly whittled it down to 14 midway through the third quarter. The Louisville product tapped his recovering ankle several times during the spurt, but stayed in the game and shot close to 40% through three quarters.

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close to 40% wow! :lol