2021 training camp/pre-season!

[url]https://thejnotes.com/2021/10/07/utah-jazz-3-studs-1-dud/[/url]

[QUOTE]The fact that each of Fitts’ made field goals came from three-point range could be indicative of a player who is ready to fill a role that every contending team could use more of: floor-spacing wing. A muscular 6’8 and 230 pounds, Fitts may have the physical profile and athletic tools to develop into a more well-rounded player in time.

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muscular with one board. Paschall too. Gobert, Whiteside and O'Neale have to do all the dirty work again?

[QUOTE]It was a step in the right direction for the unpolished, physically imposing Utah Jazz big. It was also (slightly) encouraging that Azubuike only committed 3 fouls in 24 minutes of action. That’s not necessarily a fantastic pace, but considering the 5.7 per 36 minutes the young man committed last season, it’s a step in the right direction.

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garbage time and pre season time!

[QUOTE]Oni will be on the Utah Jazz roster to open the regular season, but if he hopes to find anything more than a garbage time role with the club, he’ll need to deliver stronger performances than the one he did on Wednesday night.

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He might not be on the roster and it sounds like his D was great

[QUOTE]As previously mentioned, Utah Jazz fans ought not to invest deep emotions in the outcome of this contest. They may be one of the deepest teams in the National Basketball Association, but there’s not a squad in the NBA worth criticizing in a loss without 7 of their most important players. Fans should monitor who suits up in Monday’s action against the New Orleans Pelicans.

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aren't they the deepest team in the league every year until they aren't like the playoffs last year? :roll:

Finally had a chance to watch the game. Was great to see them trying something different defensively. We'll see if they do it when it counts

Paschall's shot looks bad. Has a hitch. Wouldn't count on him improving from the 33% he shot last year

Oni would still be a good energy guy at the end of the bench

Forrest looks good except for his shot

The sooner Butler takes over for Clarkson the better. They would be really small in the back court but if Butler and Conley can play D they might get away with it. His shot release is low though. The guy can flat out play!

Udoka looks alright to me. Just needs to keep working and get time in the Gleague until he's ready

Fitts can shoot. Mavs had a couple guys not on contracts that could be good for the two way spot as well though. I like that it's open for a change

Hughes is looking better. He has his moments. Still not sold on him. Needs to light up the Gleague

[url]https://kslsports.com/469598/13-utah-jazz-guard-joe-ingles/[/url]

[QUOTE]The Jazz decision may also be impacted by how deep in the luxury tax the team is, and the asking price for Ingles to return. Furthermore, and somewhat ironically, rookie Jared Butler’s breakout performance in Ingles’ absence over the last two preseason games could also help determine the guard’s future with the roster.

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should have nothing to do with it. Clarkson sucks!

[QUOTE]With Butler locked into a minimum salary and the team looking to avoid further tax penalties, the Jazz could prefer to let their young guard develop rather than paying the potentially high cost to retain Ingles.

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there going to be paying a lot of tax for a long time

[url]https://www.deseret.com/2021/10/7/22705863/the-evolution-of-rudy-gobert-utah-jazz-nba[/url]

[QUOTE]Gobert is a force. He’s one of the biggest (no pun intended) reasons the Utah Jazz have won a lot of games and made five consecutive playoff appearances. His career is already a success in many respects, punctuated last season when he [URL="https://www.deseret.com/sports/2020/12/22/22193242/utah-jazz-rudy-gobert-contract-extension-nba-donovan-mitchell-ryan-smith"]signed a five-year, $205 million contract[/URL] extension.

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one of? What have they done without him besides lose a lot?

[QUOTE]There’s the two All-Star bids, the All-NBA honor, the three Defensive Player of the Year awards and all the advanced metrics that back up the impact that Gobert has on the court. He is truly a decorated athlete who has achieved wild success since his G-League playing days back in 2013.

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all NBA honors. all D...

[QUOTE]In order to achieve that goal, Whiteside has to mirror, as best as he can, what Gobert does and soak up everything he can from the reigning DPOY. And when they practice, it means that Gobert is going up against a similarly built 7-footer who has the length to challenge Gobert in a way that he hasn’t been challenged in quite some time.

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Favors, Bradley, Udoh, Udoka all have great length. Let's not get carried away. Whiteside is on a minumum deal for a reason

[QUOTE]“The good thing is that everything is going to be easier in the games because we’re probably the two best rim protectors in the league right now,” he said. “It’s a blessing, a luxury to have us both on the same team and it’s great because we’re both trying to make each other better in practice.”

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if he was he wouldn't be backing you up

[url]https://www.deseret.com/2021/10/7/22714565/utah-jazz-give-a-glimpse-at-their-ability-to-switch-in-preseason-loss[/url]

[QUOTE]It’s not something to expect in every game, but there are going to be times when it’s necessary and the Jazz will want to perfect its small lineup long before the postseason, so it’s likely to be something we’ll all see a bit more of.

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don't count on it

[url]https://thejnotes.com/2021/10/08/utah-jazz-media-underrates-mike-conley/[/url]

[QUOTE]Russell Westbrook placed one spot ahead of Conley at 13th. Westbrook is one of the most divisive players in the NBA. It wouldn’t be difficult to find thousands of fans who would rank the walking triple-double in the top 3. Conversely, one could find credible NBA observers who would leave the high-volume, low-efficiency point guard out of their top 15 altogether. We’ll accept Russ’s placement ahead of Conley (which is not to suggest that we agree with it). Russ is not far removed from receiving an MVP trophy, and whether he deserved it or not, that’s not an accomplishment Conley has so much as sniffed in his NBA career.

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yet Conley was one of the most valuable players last season

[QUOTE]De’Aaron Fox, like Morant, has a bright future in the National Basketball Association. With a combination of blinding speed, rush hour ball-handling and advanced court vision, he is the life blood of the Sacramento Kings. Also like Morant, his importance to his team should not merit his ranking ahead of Utah Jazz veteran Mike Conley.

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win?

Eric Walden: [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]Asked how the two Rudy G names situation was working out, Rudy Gay had he’s been playing around with the nicknames “Ocho” and “Ocho Papi.”[/URL] Holly Rowe suggested “G Papi” and Rudy said he liked it.
– via [URL="https://twitter.com/tribjazz"]Twitter tribjazz[/URL]




Eric Walden: [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]Rudy Gay says he’s been dealing with heel pain for 5 years, and finally decided to get it taken care of. There was no specific injury that contributed to the surgery.[/URL] Said he doesn’t have an exact timeline for playing, but notes he’s not the kind of guy to milk an injury.
– via [URL="https://twitter.com/tribjazz"]Twitter tribjazz[/URL]







Eric Walden: [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]Rudy Gay said part of the appeal of joining the Jazz was them being the best regular season team in the league last year without him, so he knew there was no pressure for him to rush back[/URL].
– via [URL="https://twitter.com/tribjazz"]Twitter tribjazz[/URL]

[QUOTE] Ben Anderson: [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]Mike Conley said his play in the national championship game did help him prepare for the NBA[/URL]. That’s something Jared Butler has talked about a lot in preseason as far as calming his nerves. Conley said that might change when he sees SGA and OKC on opening night. #takenote

– via [URL="https://twitter.com/BensHoops"]Twitter BensHoops[/URL]





Eric Walden: [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]Mike Conley said that Joe Johnson got him involved with yoga this summer. Told him it would add years to his career. “I’m really feeling it.”[/URL]
– via [URL="https://twitter.com/tribjazz"]Twitter tribjazz[/URL]


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hot yoga!

[url]https://kslsports.com/469687/jazz-president-tv-and-streaming-broadcast-is-top-priority/[/url]

[QUOTE]After broadcasting the games for free locally on KJZZ, the Jazz agreed to move the team’s broadcasts to AT&T Sports Net in 2009 long before widespread streaming was considered a reliable option to view games.

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and their excuse for renewing it this year?

[QUOTE]“There will be a great solution and I guarantee it, we’re going to be one of the leaders in that when those opportunities are made available.”

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sounds like Trump :facepalm

[url]https://kslsports.com/469669/mailbag-can-jared-butler-crack-the-jazz-rotation/[/url]

[QUOTE]As mentioned, Snyder likes to run a relatively strict nine-man rotation, while finding minutes for players either late in blowouts, or in spot minutes to end quarters as he did at times last season for Miye Oni.

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Oni played when someone was injured unless it was multple guys than it was Forrest and others

[QUOTE]Heading into the season, it seemed like a foregone conclusion that Eric Paschall would be the Jazz tenth-man, while Trent Forrest and Butler battled it out to be the fifth guard in the rotation.

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it did? Oni was 10th man last year and Butler has been hyped from day 1. Forrest showed he could play last year. Paschall is bff. Right now I'd guess they'll go really small with Butler while Gay is out despite bff status for Paschall

[QUOTE]However, Butler’s play has been flat-out [URL="https://kslsports.com/469569/jared-butler-breaks-kristaps-porzingis-ankles/"]impressive[/URL] in his two appearances, leading the Jazz in scoring in both games, and doing so with the type of efficiency you don’t traditionally see in rookie guards.

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don't know about rookies but you don't see it from 6th man of the year or even best player in franchise history

[QUOTE]But, the fact remains that between Donovan Mitchell, Mike Conley, Joe Ingles, and Jordan Clarkson, there aren’t a lot of minutes in the rotation for a guy like Butler unless Snyder can get creative.

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if they were smart which they aren't they'd be looking to trade Clarkson right now for a starting 4 or tax relief and assets

[QUOTE]First, Snyder can play a three-guard lineup which he has done at times in the preseason by rolling out Mitchell, Butler, and Clarkson in the backcourt with Royce O’Neale and Hassan Whiteside in the frontcourt.

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Mitchell and Clarkson. Shit show

[QUOTE]The Jazz also started the last game with Forrest, Clarkson, and guard Miye Oni on the floor, hinting again at a willingness to perhaps experiment with smaller lineups and providing room for five guards to see the floor.

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Oni with 6'11 wingspan and him and Forrest defend

[QUOTE]Second, though I’m a firm believer that Ingles is best with the ball in his hands, he has the size and experience to move up and play in the Jazz frontcourt if needed, operating as a backup forward rather than strictly as a guard.

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he's not a 4. He's a one that can play the 2 and 3

[QUOTE]Ultimately, we’ve seen Snyder show a real willingness to adjust the team’s rotation to account for his most talented players, as he did for both Mitchell and Gobert as they proved their value on the floor early in their careers.

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he hasn't shown it the past two years and it's been costly

[QUOTE]It’s early for Butler, butt’s not crazy to believe that he could be in the conversation for one of the nine most talented players on the Jazz team. If that’s the case, Snyder will find a spot for him in the rotation.

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not much doubt. Too bad he didn't go to Duke
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[INDENT] Do Jordan Clarkson’s teammates like playing with him? He seems to be well liked by the other guys, but I can see how it might be frustrating playing with him when he gets tunnel vision.

— Horace (@h0racethoughts) [URL="https://twitter.com/h0racethoughts/status/1446563433642545152?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw"]October 8, 2021[/URL]
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When he does? He always does. I wouldn't want to play with him or Mitchell. Hard enough to watch their selfish play

[QUOTE]I think it’s fair at points to watch Clarkson dominate a possession and wonder if his teammates end up frustrated by standing on the perimeter, sometimes wide open, only to see the guard put up an unnecessarily difficult shot.

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the guy that made the most 3's on the team is their worst shooter!

[QUOTE]“A barrage of points just out of nowhere […] you literally throw the ball to him and he makes something happen. He’s making other teams over help, drawing two defenders.”

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that would be great if he passed out of a double team but it just makes it even more likely he'll throw up a brick

[QUOTE]So to answer the question, in addition to the players loving him off the floor, I think they really like playing with him on the floor. He carries a big weight, and with that, he probably wastes a couple of possessions a game with less than ideal efficiency.

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A Couple? He was awful most of the year after a hot start

[QUOTE][INDENT] Let’s imagine the jazz are going to need to get through the lakers, the Suns and the nets (perhaps all 3) to win a title and that somehow none of those teams have major injuries in the playoffs. Somehow we beat them all. How did we do it? Who grew? What was better than last year?

— JazzTahYou (@JohnRandak) [URL="https://twitter.com/JohnRandak/status/1446577436502593536?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw"]October 8, 2021[/URL]
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Snyder is fired. Clarkson is traded. Mitchell gets his teammates invilved and plays D. They get a starting 4

[QUOTE]As for their Finals run, they beat a Lakers team without Anthony Davis, a Denver Nuggets team without Jamal Murray, then a Los Angeles Clippers team without Kawhi Leonard

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did what they were supposed to do. Take care of business. Jazz didn't

[URL]https://kslsports.com/469640/12-new-jazz-front-office/[/URL]

[QUOTE]Little attention however was paid to the fact that the Jazz lacked enough adequate defenders elsewhere on the roster to give Snyder and Gobert the tools needed to make their roles more successful.

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that's all we've heard and from the little we saw they had several options which COTY refused to even try despite Favors, Niang and Oni doing nothing. Ersan should have been playing. Probably starting

[QUOTE]Likewise, Snyder has proven that he’s among the top head coaches in the league and is capable of putting a team in a position to succeed.

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he hasn't really though

[QUOTE]Zanik has long rumored to like forward Rudy Gay as an option for the Jazz and found a way to land the savvy veteran in his first season at the helm. Though it’s only been two games, Butler looks like the team’s best draft pick since trading for Donovan Mitchell in 2017.

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not saying much

[QUOTE]How Eric Paschall and Hassan Whiteside will contribute remains to be seen, but reveal a willingness for the team’s front office to bring in players who align the traditional “Jazz DNA” that had been a staple under Lindsey.

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Whiteside certainly doesn't have it. Paschall might but he'd here because of bff status

[url]https://www.deseret.com/2021/10/8/22713830/utah-jazz-insiders-newsletter-veterans-stay-engaged-even-when-resting[/url]

[QUOTE]During timeouts Gobert took Bolden to the side and gave him pointers, [URL="https://www.deseret.com/sports/2020/12/7/22158571/quin-snyder-nba-utah-jazz-jordan-clarkson-derrick-favors-donovan-mitchell"]Jazz head coach Quin Snyder[/URL] called Fitts over and explained plays and gave him tips, and Mitchell was often the first player on his feet, cheering on the young prospects and calling out coverages.

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Mitchell probably isn't the guy that should be calling out defenses :facepalm

[QUOTE]It’s hard to believe that it’s been three years since the [URL="https://www.deseret.com/2019/10/10/20908159/jeff-green-hoping-his-unselfish-play-propels-jazz"]Jazz signed forward Jeff Green[/URL] in the offseason, hoping that he would be able to give the team more versatility and depth. Instead, Green never really worked out for the Jazz after his 2019 signing and was eventually [URL="https://www.deseret.com/sports/2019/12/23/21036208/utah-jazz-jeff-green-sign-rayjon-tucker-from-nba-g-league"]waived by the team[/URL] before the season was halfway over.

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and they still don't have a starting 4

[url]https://thejnotes.com/2021/10/08/utah-jazz-rudy-gobert-best-center/[/url]

[QUOTE][h=1]Utah Jazz: Is Rudy Gobert the best center in franchise history?[/h][/QUOTE]

:roll:

[QUOTE]His lack of offensive ability simply didn’t matter for an attack that was built around Stockton and Malone’s historic pick-and-roll chemistry. Ostertag’s role was to bully opposing players, and protect the rim, and he did each exceedingly well.

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and hit the offensive glass

[QUOTE]Big Al Jefferson could have had an opportunity to rank higher on this list, if he hadn’t spent a mere three seasons as a member of the Utah Jazz. He may, in fact, be the best offensive center in Utah Jazz history.

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an inefficient black hole :facepalm

[QUOTE]Furthermore, the Jazz were not a very competitive club over the course of Jefferson’s stay. In his debut season, they went 36-30 in a lockout-shortened 2010-11, squeaking into the playoffs only to suffer a first round elimination. They would miss the playoffs in each of his next two seasons. Surely, Jefferson’s shaky rim protection didn’t do the team any favors.

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his offense probably hurt them more

[QUOTE]Jefferson narrowly gets the nod over Ostertag because ultimately, offense is more important than defense. It’s simply difficult to say that Greg Ostertag was a better basketball player than Al Jefferson with a straight face.

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one of the best offensive rebounders and shot blockers in the game or an inefficient black hole? Easy choice for me

[QUOTE]Throw Mehmet Okur into the modern NBA, and his floor-spacing could juice a quality NBA offense. Pair him with a defensive-minded power forward, and it’s not hard to imagine him earning starter minutes in 2021.

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likely a back up because of D

[QUOTE]Here at the J-Notes, we’ve already [URL="https://thejnotes.com/2021/09/02/utah-jazz-mark-eaton-awarded/"]spilled considerable ink[/URL] in [URL="https://thejnotes.com/2021/08/13/utah-jazz-time-teams/"]the name of the late[/URL], great [URL="https://thejnotes.com/2021/09/10/utah-jazz-underrated-players-history/"]Mark Eaton[/URL]. There are three reasons for that. The first is his recent, tragic passing. The second is that the NBA offseason is an ideal time for reflection on the franchise’s history, which Eaton was a very significant part of. The third, and most important reason, is that Mark Eaton was absolutely incredible.

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he sucked

[QUOTE]In fact, it’s a two man race, with Mark Eaton being the only other center in the team’s history worth consideration for the honor. Defensively, the two all-time greats are remarkably comparable. Each sports a career Defensive Rating of 100, although it’s worth noting that Gobert’s career, of course, is ongoing. Gobert has certainly never sniffed a blocks per game average in the vicinity of 5.6 per game, but again, raw counting stats do not necessarily reflect a player’s entire value.

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Rich Kelly

[QUOTE]The Utah Jazz will enter the 2021-22 season with fantasies of the Larry O’Brien trophy, and deservingly so. However, hopefully they can find some moments for somber appreciation of the fact that they’re watching the best center in the franchise’s history, as well.

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watching the 3rd best player in franchise history and it's not close

Sarah Todd: [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]Bojan Bogdanovic was a full participant in practice with the Jazz yesterday and today[/URL]
– via [URL="https://twitter.com/NBASarah"]Twitter NBASarah[/URL]




Eric Walden: [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]Jordan Clarkson said Jazz practices have been very physical this season, with several players winding up with bloody lips, or scratches and scrapes.[/URL] He lifted up his shirt at one point to reveal a long scratch mark, noting, “Even my tattoos can’t cover that.”
– via [URL="https://twitter.com/tribjazz"]Twitter tribjazz[/URL]






Ben Anderson: [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]Jordan Clarkson on how the @Utah Jazz are approaching the regular season. “We’ve got to break it down 20 games at a time, five games at a time, one game at a time.”[/URL] #takenote | @kslsports
– via [URL="https://twitter.com/BensHoops"]Twitter BensHoops[/URL]






Eric Walden: [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]Told of Rudy Gay’s proposed “G Papi” nickname, Jordan Clarkson laughed and said, “I ain’t calling no grown man ‘Papi’!”[/URL]
– via [URL="https://twitter.com/tribjazz"]Twitter tribjazz[/URL]

Eric Walden: [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]Rudy Gobert, who has sat out both of the Jazz’s first two preseason games, says he sees pros and cons to preseason play. He said he’d personally like to play on Monday,[/URL] but he also trusts the coaching staff’d decision, and said he’s getting plenty of run in practices.
– via [URL="https://twitter.com/tribjazz"]Twitter tribjazz[/URL]