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[QUOTE=theman93;14646519]Yeah, really. Are you going to act like Chris Whitney, Popeye Jones, Jahidi White and the rest of those scrubs were net positives? Lmaooooooo[/QUOTE]
Chris Whitney had a 1.8 BPM and a TS% significantly above league average, completely comparable to Monk. Westbrook is about as useful as benchwarmers yes, did you watch him play at all? :lol
[QUOTE=kawhileonard2;14646521]2022 Melo won a scoring title, 2022 Westbrook already had won a league mvp and is the all time leader in triple doubles. Also Dwight Howard who beat Lebron without HCA is a 3x DPOY.
[url]https://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_2022_preseason_odds.html[/url] (Lakers 2nd)[/QUOTE]
38 year old washed up decrepit MJ really led his group of Wizard scrubs to a better record than Lebron did his Lakers who were a top 2 Finals favorite? Say it ain't so lmaoooo
[QUOTE=RRR3;14646525]:roll: :roll: :roll:
Ok, you're actually retarded, I didn't realize what I was dealing with. Westbrook was arguably the least valuable player in the NBA last year. Carmelo is maybe the worst defender in the league, he's a big negative most of the time. How did LeBron have AD for half the season when LeBron missed a lot of time too? :lol[/QUOTE]
It's obvious he doesn't follow today's NBA, he thinks Tatum is better than Luka, lol.
[QUOTE=1987_Lakers;14646527]MJ had a 47 TS% in '02 when the league average was 52%. Not to mention he wasn't much of a playmaker, he was nothing more than a chucker on many nights.
Compare that to LeBron who averaged 30 points on 62 TS% and gave you his usual playmaking skills.
It isn't even close to be honest.[/QUOTE]
Also wouldn't Doug Collins be considered a much better coach than Vogel? The Lakers would have been mediocore regardless but Vogel cost them probably about 10+ games with his stupidity.
[QUOTE=1987_Lakers;14646531]It's obvious he doesn't follow today's NBA, he thinks Tatum is better than Luka, lol.[/QUOTE]
Lmao WHAT
Jordan is the only one who 3 peated in this group and did so twice for the franchise that drafted him that never won prior to him arriving without ever playing with a guy who won league mvp or finals mvp.
That version of MJ couldn't even beat a random dude in 1 on 1.
[video=youtube;5B7U74Dg04k]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5B7U74Dg04k&t[/video]
LeBron in his exhibition game was dropping 40+ vs much better players than John Rogers. :lol
[video=youtube;CAJ8hY84_S8]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAJ8hY84_S8[/video]
[QUOTE=RRR3;14646528]Chris Whitney had a 1.8 BPM and a TS% significantly above league average, completely comparable to Monk. Westbrook is about as useful as benchwarmers yes, did you watch him play at all? :lol[/QUOTE]
Chris Whitney :roll::roll: I guarantee you don't even know who he is and never even watched a minute that he played.
Reaves, Monk, Ellington, and Anthony all had TS% over league average. So what?
[QUOTE=1987_Lakers;14646527]MJ had a 47 TS% in '02 when the league average was 52%. Not to mention he wasn't much of a playmaker, he was nothing more than a chucker on many nights.
Compare that to LeBron who averaged 30 points on 62 TS% and gave you his usual playmaking skills.
It isn't even close to be honest.[/QUOTE]
Interesting, so how did MJ who was significantly worse than Lebron, lead the Wizards to a better record than Lebron led the Lakers to in 2022 when on top of that MJ had a worse or at best equal supporting cast?
[QUOTE=theman93;14646540]Chris Whitney :roll::roll: I guarantee you don't even know who he is and never even watched a minute that he played.
[B]Reaves, Monk, Ellington, and Anthony all had TS% over league average. So what?[/B][/QUOTE]
And MJ had below average TS%.
[QUOTE=theman93;14646524]What about AD? :roll:[/QUOTE]
Big Dantley fan. Not sure I'd want him on my team though
[QUOTE=theman93;14646540]Chris Whitney :roll::roll: I guarantee you don't even know who he is and never even watched a minute that he played.
Reaves, Monk, Ellington, and Anthony all had TS% over league average. So what?[/QUOTE]
He had a 1.8 BPM. No one the Lakers besides LeBron, Davis or Sekou Doumboya (who played 16 total minutes) even had a 0.0 BPM, everyone else was negative :lol
Are you acting like Malik Monk wasn't considered a complete ****ing scrub before he played with LeBron? Dude couldn't get time on the ****ing Hornets :yaohappy:
[QUOTE=theman93;14646541]Interesting, so how did MJ who was significantly worse than Lebron, lead the Wizards to a better record than Lebron led the Lakers to in 2022 when on top of that MJ had a worse or at best equal supporting cast?[/QUOTE]
Bad fits. Westbrook ruined the team. Vogel was a terrible offensive coach, Melo was atrocious on defense etc.
By your logic, '09 & '10 LeBron > '88 & '89 MJ since LeBron led his team to a better record without having much of a cast.
[QUOTE=RRR3;14646525]:roll: :roll: :roll:
Ok, you're actually retarded, I didn't realize what I was dealing with. Westbrook was arguably the least valuable player in the NBA last year. Carmelo is maybe the worst defender in the league, he's a big negative most of the time. How did LeBron have AD for half the season when LeBron missed a lot of time too? :lol[/QUOTE]
2022 Westbrick had a higher TS% than Hamilton did in 02. Hamilton also had a worse DBPM than 2022 Westbrick. Remind me how great Hamilton was again in 02? Rofllllllllllllll
[QUOTE=theman93;14646541]Interesting, so how did MJ who was significantly worse than Lebron, lead the Wizards to a better record than Lebron led the Lakers to in 2022 when on top of that MJ had a worse or at best equal supporting cast?[/QUOTE]
Coaching and variance. Doug Collins also didn't insist on starting Tyronn Lue and letting him shoot 20 times a game, which would be the equivalent of Vogel with Westbrook. You can't honestly think MJ was better at that point, dude was completely done.