Re: Victor Wembanyama has GOAT Potential
[QUOTE=Phoenix;14840847]I'm too old to fall for hype, and its only preseason but......this guy is making it look way too easy out there. Basically like a 7'4 KD but with DPOY level impact. Challenges everything he's even remotely in the vicinity of, quick enough for switching and gonna have guys hesitate to shoot or have to alter their shot trajectory just to get it over the top. Can easily see him being like All-NBA 2nd team, all star, 25ppg and 4 blocks a game this year.... as a rookie. Shit, I did say I'm too old for hype, right?![/QUOTE]
Ha you hyped up one of the best rookie seasons ever.amd made it sound like a normal thing that everyone should get
Re: Victor Wembanyama has GOAT Potential
[QUOTE=Im Still Ballin;14840854]KD isn't the right comparison. Durant doesn't finish plays in the paint as Victor does, nor does he block shots and protect the paint. He's more like a taller and longer Anthony Davis with a better shot. I'm feeling good about my DPOY/blocks leader prediction, as well as San Antonio making the playoffs.[/QUOTE]
AD doesn't cross you over on the perimeter leading into a smooth 18 footer, either. Maybe it's best to say Wemb has elements of both but I dont think AD is any better a comparison, it just depends on what aspects of his skillset we're referring to. Really, so far this guy seems to be a 1 of 1. Nobody has his array of skills at that size, so you would have to look at different players. Saying he's a 7'4 KD isnt meant to be taken literally, because obviously he has an entirely other level on defense that we don't talk about with KD and as you state he will be far more potent as an interior force in terms of finishing plays at the rim, but he also has perimeter elements of his offense that apply more to KD, somewhat similar dribbling style, range and shot mechanics, and that long, wiry frame. That says KD to me more than it does AD. Heck I may be inclined to say he's a 7'4 KD/KG hybrid with shotblock leader talent.
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[QUOTE=nayte;14840862]Ha you hyped up one of the best rookie seasons ever.amd made it sound like a normal thing that everyone should get[/QUOTE]
How did you arrive at the conclusion that I'm saying it's a normal thing everyone should get? Genuinely curious because that wasnt what I was trying to convey.
Re: Victor Wembanyama has GOAT Potential
[QUOTE=Phoenix;14840864]How did you arrive at the conclusion that I'm saying it's a normal thing everyone should get? Genuinely curious because that wasnt what I was trying to convey.[/QUOTE]
Yeah my bad it was tongue in cheek.facetious etc.it was aimed at your rookie stats which I agree on.
My humor sucks it seems
Re: Victor Wembanyama has GOAT Potential
[QUOTE=nayte;14840865]Yeah my bad it was tongue in cheek.facetious etc.it was aimed at your rookie stats which I agree on.
My humor sucks it seems[/QUOTE]
No worries lol :cheers:
Re: Victor Wembanyama has GOAT Potential
As an aside, its pretty crazy to see that the majority of the top 10 are non-Americans and if this guy pans out as we all think he will, he'll be entering that territory fairly soon.
Re: Victor Wembanyama has GOAT Potential
All good. Wemby is to fluid for anyone to be at that height shit is crazy
Re: Victor Wembanyama has GOAT Potential
[QUOTE=Phoenix;14840863]AD doesn't cross you over on the perimeter leading into a smooth 18 footer, either. Maybe it's best to say Wemb has elements of both but I dont think AD is any better a comparison, it just depends on what aspects of his skillset we're referring to. Really, so far this guy seems to be a 1 of 1. Nobody has his array of skills at that size, so you would have to look at different players. Saying he's a 7'4 KD isnt meant to be taken literally, because obviously he has an entirely other level on defense that we don't talk about with KD and as you state he will be far more potent as an interior force in terms of finishing plays at the rim, but he also has perimeter elements of his offense that apply more to KD, somewhat similar dribbling style, range and shot mechanics, and that long, wiry frame. That says KD to me more than it does AD. Heck I may be inclined to say he's a 7'4 KD/KG hybrid with shotblock leader talent.[/QUOTE]
I'm referring to young Pelicans AD. He shot more jumpers and played more face-up. I see a lot of Victor in this highlight reel:
[video=youtube;vuPO0R9KSdY]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vuPO0R9KSdY[/video]
Re: Victor Wembanyama has GOAT Potential
[QUOTE=Im Still Ballin;14840854]KD isn't the right comparison. Durant doesn't finish plays in the paint as Victor does, nor does he block shots and protect the paint. He's more like a taller and longer Anthony Davis with a better shot. I'm feeling good about my DPOY/blocks leader prediction, as well as San Antonio making the playoffs.[/QUOTE]
There really is no comparision. Wemby is kind of a new category altogether.
Re: Victor Wembanyama has GOAT Potential
He may not be quite the unicorn I thought he was.
He still has GOAT potential, but he's only a couple of inches taller than guys like Kareem/Sampson and right now doesn't seem as athletic as them.
Re: Victor Wembanyama has GOAT Potential
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Re: Victor Wembanyama has GOAT Potential
[QUOTE=eliteballer;14840952]He may not be quite the unicorn I thought he was.
He still has GOAT potential, but he's only a couple of inches taller than guys like Kareem/Sampson and right now doesn't seem as athletic as them.[/QUOTE]
Athleticism aside, he has guard skills both with the handle and passing that Kareem and Sampson probably never even conceived of. Not necessarily their fault because it was never going to be okay to play that way in the first place so why even try. But Wemby does it.
Re: Victor Wembanyama has GOAT Potential
[QUOTE=eliteballer;14840952]He may not be quite the unicorn I thought he was.
He still has GOAT potential, but he's only a couple of inches taller than guys like Kareem/Sampson and right now doesn't seem as athletic as them.[/QUOTE]
Victor has done nothing this pre season to make someone think LESS of him than they did before pre season. This take makes no sense.
So he's not as good as you thought, but still could be goat? What were you expecting, all the best attributes of Durant + Kareem with Amare Stoudemire quick twitch?
Re: Victor Wembanyama has GOAT Potential
As everyone already knows, he just has to stay healthy. If he can do that, sky is the limit. That's a huge if though.
Re: Victor Wembanyama has GOAT Potential
[QUOTE=eliteballer;14840952]He may not be quite the unicorn I thought he was.
He still has GOAT potential, but he's only a couple of inches taller than guys like Kareem/Sampson and right now doesn't seem as athletic as them.[/QUOTE]
Victor's wingspan and standing reach are significantly longer than both of those guys. Kareem's wingspan was 7'5"; Sampson's was less than that. Both of their standing reaches were in that 9'3" to 9'5" range. There were anecdotal stories about Bill Russell having a greater standing reach than both of them.
Wemby's got like 7" of wingspan and 6"-9" of standing reach on Kareem.