Re: Cooper Flagg Discussion Thread
People don't get that Cooper Flagg has the perfect package for the modern NBA.
Unlike Wemby who is limited in that height also has drawbacks, Cooper is simply long, with a wingspan of a much taller player, but the torso and legs of a normal wing. This means Cooper can move like a wing, but defend like a big. He also has massive shoulders which will help with rebounding.
Cooper has the same qualities that made KG, AD stars. He'll be the ultimate switcher on defense, the ultimate help defender. He'll run the floor like Giannis and KG, dominate smaller opponents like AD.
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Mark the 5th of November on your Calenders when the future GOAT makes his official college debut :pimp:
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Kind of crazy that NBADraft.net gave Flagg a higher potential score now than they did Wemby two years ago. 102 vs 101. The biggest dock on Wemby was his strength. Which is understandable.
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[QUOTE=Meticode;14951178]Kind of crazy that NBADraft.net gave Flagg a higher potential score now than they did Wemby two years ago. 102 vs 101. The biggest dock on Wemby was his strength. Which is understandable.[/QUOTE]
Wow I didn't know that, so Flagg has the highest score of any prospect ever?
I know Zion got 100 score
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[QUOTE=3ba11;14950172]Knecht is far superior[/QUOTE]
Missed this one :lol
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[QUOTE=Manny98;14951181]Wow I didn't know that, so Flagg has the highest score of any prospect ever?
I know Zion got 100 score[/QUOTE]
I don't know. I randomly looked up Flagg last night because I don't know much about him. I don't follow prospects much. Then I got curious and wondered what they scored Wemby and was surprised Wemby was 1 point lower.
Edit: I looked up other players they scored. And kind of laughed...
Blake Griffin, 2009, 105
John Wall, 2010, 103
:oldlol:
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Cooper's wingspan referred to as 7'1" in this recent Sports Illustrated article:
[url]https://www.si.com/nba/draft/newsfeed/2025-nba-draft-breaking-down-cooper-flagg-skills[/url]
[quote]Flagg is a 6-foot-9 forward who has a 7-foot-1 wingspan and weighs 205 pounds. He has great positional size and physical tools which will allow him to comfortably play up and down the lineup. Not only does he have those great physical tools, but he also is an elite athlete and is arguably a top-five athlete in this year’s draft. When it comes to measurables and athletic testing, Flagg absolutely dominates there and it will show at the NBA Draft Combine.[/quote]
That number seems more believable than the 6'11.75" from the J Kyle Mann video.
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[video=youtube;BsN3ih9_yH4]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BsN3ih9_yH4[/video]
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[QUOTE=Meticode;14951245]I don't know. I randomly looked up Flagg last night because I don't know much about him. I don't follow prospects much. Then I got curious and wondered what they scored Wemby and was surprised Wemby was 1 point lower.
Edit: I looked up other players they scored. And kind of laughed...
Blake Griffin, 2009, 105
John Wall, 2010, 103
:oldlol:[/QUOTE]
What's funny about that? Both those dudes were all-nba and derailed by injuries. Both had borderline MVP candidate peaks.
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[QUOTE=ralph_i_el;14953475]What's funny about that? Both those dudes were all-nba and derailed by injuries. Both had borderline MVP candidate peaks.[/QUOTE]
Griffin and Wall were built for the regular season. No game planning and faster pace.
Wall wasnt really a savvy enough floor general for the playoffs and Griffin's short wingspan gave him problems when the game slowed down. They might have been "All NBA" but like Tatum they werent among the actual best players.
Im not saying they were scrubs or anything, just that I dont think injuries limited their accomplishments, mainly just their longevity.
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[QUOTE=Neal Romer;14953502]Griffin and Wall were built for the regular season. No game planning and faster pace.
Wall wasnt really a savvy enough floor general for the playoffs and Griffin's short wingspan gave him problems when the game slowed down. They might have been "All NBA" but like Tatum they werent among the actual best players.
Im not saying they were scrubs or anything, just that I dont think injuries limited their accomplishments, mainly just their longevity.[/QUOTE]
I’ll say this, 2017 John Wall was better in the playoffs than Tatum ever was.
Griffin is a weird one. And also better than Tatum but never as good as his numbers. Not even in 2015. But solid defender.
Griffin was anchoring the 2021 Nets D and containing Giannis with no help D. He was gonna Draymond his way to a championship. Griffin was no dummy, he wasn’t a gimmick guy and and he was no loser. He proved that.
And he really did break down physically and rapidly at that.
I don’t think either one reached their ceiling. Wall had knee issues even in his best years.
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First slam dunk for Duke:
[video=youtube;5KuoQDAtugQ]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5KuoQDAtugQ[/video]
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I like the passing and back-to-the-basket stuff. Cooper has a strong frame with a sturdy base, has great balance, absorbs contact very well, plays physically, and covers a lot of ground pivoting with his long strides. His strength and post potential are two areas in which he differs from Kirilenko.
Luka, Randle, and Brunson are three current examples of primary shot creators who use a back-down game to get into the teeth of the defense and collapse it. Flagg may not have a crazy burst off the dribble, but he seems to have the right ingredients for the back-down game.
[video=youtube;3IGpkiqKuWA]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3IGpkiqKuWA&pp=ygUMY29vcGVyIGZsYWdn[/video]
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Flagg looked better than I expected last night, he's well and truly a generational talent, :bowdown:
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[QUOTE=Manny98;14953683]Flagg looked better than I expected last night, he's well and truly a generational talent, :bowdown:[/QUOTE]
I'm sure Utah will appreciate him.