Dems absolutely SUCK on immigration. Released Haitians terrorize Ohio town

[QUOTE=tontoz;14943236]That is the point. Sweden is a bad comparison. They've had a ton of refugees in recent years and obviously wasn't ready for them.
That isn't comparable to the situation in Springfield which is just a small town with jobs to fill.[/QUOTE]

Read again from Torbjorn, they had and still have jobs to fill because of an ageing population.

[QUOTE]Since 2008, the number of employed has risen by 300,000. Three quarters of that growth was among immigrants.
Immigration makes it easier to handle the demographic challenges of an ageing population and boosts potential growth, said Nordea analyst Torbjorn Isaksson.[/QUOTE]

How many of those Springfield Haitians are in jobs right now? Per the locals in the video posted earlier, 80-90% of welfare center visitors are Haitian while being around 25% of the population in the city.

[QUOTE=ZenMaster;14943238]Read again from Torbjorn, they had and still have jobs to fill because of an ageing population.



How many of those Springfield Haitians are in jobs right now? Per the locals in the video posted earlier, 80-90% of welfare center visitors are Haitian while being around 25% of the population in the city.[/QUOTE]


I seriously doubt the real estate prices and rent is going up because of all these people on welfare. Welfare doesn't pay that much.

[QUOTE=tontoz;14943240]I seriously doubt the real estate prices and rent is going up because of all these people on welfare. Welfare doesn't pay that much.[/QUOTE]

If you're setting a narrative that 15-20.000 Haitians moved to Springfield Ohio because there were 15-20.000 jop openings, shouldn't you be able to say how many people are currently employed, or is it just something you made up? 8000 of them are apparently on medicaid.

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[QUOTE]Enrollment in Medicaid and federal food assistance and welfare programs surged. So did rents and vehicle accidents, including a collision last year when a Haitian without a U.S. driver's license drove into a school bus, killing 11-year-old Aiden Clark and injuring 26 other children.
The number of affordable housing vouchers fell as landlords moved to market-based rents that were rising in the face of higher demand, a blow to existing residents relying on them.[/QUOTE]

Personally I won't be the least bit surprised if it's happening that certain landlords are getting paid like $500 per month from a federal govt program for each immigrant housed, with up to 10 people living in the same house or some shit.

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Someone posted a vid earlier where an interviewer asked the Haitians why they moved to Springfield. They said it was the job opportunities. Their words, not mine.

When someone moves to a new country they typically have no home and no job so it isn't a surprise that they would initially need some assistance.

[B]The elephant in the room is the one nobody is talking about. Has crime gone up? Violent crime? Property crime? Theft? I haven't seen any evidence of this. If there was any i am sure Trump would have been all over it rather than claiming the immigrants are eating pets lol [/B]

[QUOTE=tontoz;14943269]Someone posted a vid earlier where an interviewer asked the Haitians why they moved to Springfield. They said it was the job opportunities. Their words, not mine.

When someone moves to a new country they typically have no home and no job so it isn't a surprise that they would initially need some assistance.

[B]The elephant in the room is the one nobody is talking about. Has crime gone up? Violent crime? Property crime? Theft? I haven't seen any evidence of this. If there was any i am sure Trump would have been all over it rather than claiming the immigrants are eating pets lol [/B][/QUOTE]

I don't agree. The elephant in the room is how many of them are actually working, because the numbers don't add up and there's apparently 3 translators working full time at that welfare center. Unless you speak English I don't think jobs grow on trees in Ohio.
I wouldn't expect them to be particularly violent given that they're fully supported by the governent financially, e.g calling their food assistance card the "magic money card". i'd be surprsied if they're not happy to be there.

[QUOTE=ZenMaster;14943275]I don't agree. The elephant in the room is how many of them are actually working, because the numbers don't add up and there's apparently 3 translators working full time at that welfare center. Unless you speak English I don't think jobs grow on trees in Ohio.
I wouldn't expect them to be particularly violent given that they're fully supported by the governent financially, e.g calling their food assistance card the "magic money card". i'd be surprsied if they're not happy to be there.[/QUOTE]

That is a bit of a contradiction. If they have a magic money card to buy food they obviously don't need to eat people's pets.

[QUOTE=tontoz;14943276]That is a bit of a contradiction. If they have a magic money card to buy food they obviously don't need to eat people's pets.[/QUOTE]

I've never said anything about there for sure is being pets eaten there and I think the other issues around 20.000 Haitians somwhow all gathering in the same US city are much more important.
But didnt't someone else already point out for you that Haitians from certain parts eat is a delicacy and tradition?
Hell up until a couple of days ago there was a video YT of a Haitian woman presenting her recipe for a cat stew like it was any other kind of cooking video. She had the whole thing chopped up with he head on a platter in her kitchen. It's not the most uncommon thing either, they do it in Ghana too for example.

[QUOTE=ZenMaster;14943277]I've never said anything about there for sure is being pets eaten there and I think the other issues around 20.000 Haitians somwhow all gathering in the same US city are much more important.
But didnt't someone else already point out for you that Haitians from certain parts eat is a delicacy and tradition?
Hell up until a couple of days ago there was a video YT of a Haitian woman presenting her recipe for a cat stew like it was any other kind of cooking video. She had the whole thing chopped up with he head on a platter in her kitchen. It's not the most uncommon thing either, they do it in Ghana too for example.[/QUOTE]


Didn't you just say the Haitians wanted to be here which is why they aren't committing crimes? Killing pets is a crime here.

[QUOTE=tontoz;14943279]Didn't you just say the Haitians wanted to be here which is why they aren't committing crimes? Killing pets is a crime here.[/QUOTE]

You said violent crime, almost all the stuff the citizens at those town hall complained about has nothing to do with violent crime.

A person doesn't necessarily change up all their beliefs and opinions just because they move to another country. Snatching up a cat from some back alley they might not consider a crime in their mind.
Personally I don't want to judge people from what animals they eat, I've had quite a few meals from a meat that others would only consider pets and never eat, because I was visiting a place where they ate it locally.

I wouldn't know about the circumstances of a magic money card, e.g if everyone gets it or are there specific allocations. You're welcome to try and do research.

Actually what I said was

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Has crime gone up? Violent crime? Property crime? Theft?
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So since you didn't read it right the first time, has property crime and theft gone up after the flood of immigrants?

[QUOTE=tontoz;14943284]Actually what I said was




So since you didn't read it right the first time, has property crime and theft gone up after the flood of immigrants?[/QUOTE]

You can look that up yourself, my opinion is still the same.

[QUOTE]The elephant in the room is how many of them are actually working, because the numbers don't add up and there's apparently 3 translators working full time at that welfare center. Unless you speak English I don't think jobs grow on trees in Ohio.
I wouldn't expect them to be particularly violent given that they're fully supported by the governent financially, e.g calling their food assistance card the "magic money card". i'd be surprsied if they're not happy to be there given the circumstances.[/QUOTE]

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So your opinion is that they like it here so they don't want to commit crimes. That means they don't want to kill pets which is a crime. Got it.

[QUOTE=tontoz;14943289]So your opinion is that they like it here so they don't want to commit crimes. That means they don't want to kill pets which is a crime. Got it.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=tontoz;14943289]So your opinion is that they like it here so they don't want to commit crimes. That means they don't want to kill pets which is a crime. Got it.[/QUOTE]

There's 20.000 of them but if you want to make a point like a 10 year old go ahead. There's the police report and confirmed eye witness about Haitians killing geese, which is also a crime.
Depending on culture, people do stuff all the time which some people consider very wrong while others don't and I don't think Haitians who eats cats consider themselves wrong for doing so or grabbing them from streets where they run around.

Have you or someone you know ever smoked weed in a state where it's illegal or had a beer before 21? If you did, would you describe yourself or the people you know who did it as criminals?

[QUOTE=ZenMaster;14943292]There's 20.000 of them but if you want to make a point like a 10 year old go ahead. There's the police report and confirmed eye witness about Haitians killing geese, which is also a crime.[/QUOTE]


Since there are 20k of them doesn't it stand to reason that there would be an increase in crimes that don't involve animals?

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