Tmac: 'Replace me with Kobe and I'm with Shaq, I don't win a championship?'

[video=youtube;mQbyIS7k08M]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mQbyIS7k08M[/video]

[QUOTE=Da_Realist;15017928][video=youtube;mQbyIS7k08M]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mQbyIS7k08M[/video][/QUOTE]

There we go

[QUOTE=LAL;15017933]There we go[/QUOTE]

You would be here cosigning a video this hypocritically stupid. Without picking it apart piece by piece I'll just make a single point of the many that can be made about this video. The Kobe stan that made it said he had superstar syndrome. That he left Toronto because he wanted to be the no.1 option, while failing to realize that he was going to Orlando to be with both Grant Hill AND Tim Duncan. How stupid is that? Especially considering that Kobe had Shaq shipped so he could be "the Superstar" i love Kobe man, but his stans are soupy dumpster juice.

[QUOTE=sdot_thadon;15018029]You would be here cosigning a video this hypocritically stupid. Without picking it apart piece by piece I'll just make a single point of the many that can be made about this video. The Kobe stan that made it said he had superstar syndrome. That he left Toronto because he wanted to be the no.1 option, while failing to realize that he was going to Orlando to be with both Grant Hill AND Tim Duncan. How stupid is that? Especially considering that Kobe had Shaq shipped so he could be "the Superstar" i love Kobe man, but his stans are soupy dumpster juice.[/QUOTE]

Kobe wanted out, Shaq wanted to be paid like he was still in his prime but he was washed in 2004.. Shaq's ego wasn't going to let him be a #2 to Kobe even though he should've embraced that role.

[QUOTE]“[Shaq] wanted an amount of money that was legal under the CBA but it wasn’t what my Dad wanted to pay him. And so it came to the point where the decision was made to trade Shaq. A lot of people want to put that blame on Kobe. It wasn’t. It was purely a money situation.”[/QUOTE] - Jeanie Buss

[QUOTE=ImKobe;15018047]Kobe wanted out, Shaq wanted to be paid like he was still in his prime but he was washed in [B]2004[/B].. Shaq's ego wasn't going to let him be a #2 to Kobe even though he should've embraced that role.

- Jeanie Buss[/QUOTE]

2003 for sure, all fat with those wristbands. These kids don't remember. The big diesel was coasting since the summer of 2000.

[QUOTE=ImKobe;15018047]Kobe wanted out, Shaq wanted to be paid like he was still in his prime but he was washed in 2004.. Shaq's ego wasn't going to let him be a #2 to Kobe even though he should've embraced that role.

- Jeanie Buss[/QUOTE]

That team was done after the 2004 finals no matter what. Especially after the Colorado incident the team was split between 'Shaq' and 'Kobe' camps. Kobe drew alot of heat for not inviting teammates to his wedding and not attending team functions, Kobe was upset that Shaq didn't reach out to him during his legal issues, etc.

[QUOTE=ImKobe;15018047]Kobe wanted out, Shaq wanted to be paid like he was still in his prime [B]but he was washed in 2004[/B].. Shaq's ego wasn't going to let him be a #2 to Kobe even though he should've embraced that role.

- Jeanie Buss[/QUOTE]

Wasn't he like...almost MVP in 2005? :lol

He wasn't peak Shaq anymore, one of if not the most dominant forces the league has ever seen, but he was still among the best players in the league. He wasn't "washed" until 2008 or so.

[QUOTE=sdot_thadon;15018029]You would be here cosigning a video this hypocritically stupid. Without picking it apart piece by piece I'll just make a single point of the many that can be made about this video. The Kobe stan that made it said he had superstar syndrome. That he left Toronto because he wanted to be the no.1 option, while failing to realize that he was going to Orlando to be with both Grant Hill AND Tim Duncan. How stupid is that? Especially considering that Kobe had Shaq shipped so he could be "the Superstar" i love Kobe man, but his stans are soupy dumpster juice.[/QUOTE]

Why didn't he get to start in toronto? Why didn't he want to step in Vince's toes when Vince was having 15 point games in a first round sweep out east in 2000?

He tried to form a superteam in Orlando, didn't work out AT ALL. Now What?

Kobe will always be remembered for ****ing up teams by himself those 2 years with Kwame and Smush, 81, 62 vs 61 in 3Q, 50 point streak, 12 3ptm NBA record, ALL 1st D. All tmac is remembered y is his 30 seconds vs The spurs, where he wasn't shit in Houston and never got past the first round in his life. Go away.

[QUOTE=ShawkFactory;15018056]Wasn't he like...almost MVP in 2005? :lol

He wasn't peak Shaq anymore, one of if not the most dominant forces the league has ever seen, but he was still among the best players in the league. He wasn't "washed" until 2008 or so.[/QUOTE]

He was significantly worse. MVP is not an individual award.

[QUOTE=LAL;15018057]Why didn't he get to start in toronto? Why didn't he want to step in Vince's toes when Vince was having 15 point games in a first round sweep out east in 2000?

He tried to form a superteam in Orlando, didn't work out AT ALL. Now What?

Kobe will always be remembered for ****ing up teams by himself those 2 years with Kwame and Smush, 81, 62 vs 61 in 3Q, 50 point streak, 12 3ptm NBA record, ALL 1st D. All tmac is remembered y is his 30 seconds vs The spurs, where he wasn't shit in Houston and never got past the first round in his life. Go away.[/QUOTE]

See what im saying about Kobe stans? You guys are the basic bitch of nba fandom. All that emotional ranting and failed to address what I actually said. The video was trash and had pretty hypocritical content. You couldn't even refute point no.1: how did Tmac have "superstar syndrome" and Kobe didn't? One went to for sure not be the 1st option and one got rid of his 1st option. Make it make sense. Also you're not a smart guy. Thats all.:oldlol:

[QUOTE=ImKobe;15018047]Kobe wanted out, Shaq wanted to be paid like he was still in his prime but he was washed in 2004.. Shaq's ego wasn't going to let him be a #2 to Kobe even though he should've embraced that role.

- Jeanie Buss[/QUOTE]

And this still doesn't somehow exclude Kobe from the narrative that video tried to paint on tmac in contrast to Kobe lol. Why did Kobe want out? We all know what went on and how the sheets have been smoothed out as the years go. But remember in real time it was a him or me decision.

[QUOTE=sdot_thadon;15018061]See what im saying about Kobe stans? You guys are the basic bitch of nba fandom. All that emotional ranting and failed to address what I actually said. The video was trash and had pretty hypocritical content. You couldn't even refute point no.1: how did Tmac have "superstar syndrome" and Kobe didn't? One went to for sure not be the 1st option and one got rid of his 1st option. Make it make sense. Also you're not a smart guy. Thats all.:oldlol:[/QUOTE]

The video was extremely interesting, didn't say it was flawless or whatever??

Are you trying to use the legoofy stan tricks on me? You couldn't even defend
legoofy being replaced on the Heatles superteam in a extreme weak conference

[QUOTE=LAL;15018067]The video was extremely interesting, didn't say it was flawless or whatever??

Are you trying to use the legoofy stan tricks on me? You couldn't even defend
legoofy being replaced on the Heatles superteam in a extreme weak conference[/QUOTE]

Nah B, actually I broke it down in as basic as possible terms for your remedial ass but apparently it still whooshed clean over your head. Come back when you're ready to actually discuss the topic.

[QUOTE=sdot_thadon;15018069]Nah B, actually I broke it down in as basic as possible terms for your remedial ass but apparently it still whooshed clean over your head. Come back when you're ready to actually discuss the topic.[/QUOTE]

You said Kawhi, Harden or KD coudn't do what legoofy did from 11 to 14 on the Heatles superteam (or 15 to 18 Cavs).

Please explain in depth because your previous reasons sucked, and why you thought
you felt you were confident enough to believe tmac would've been as successful as Kobe with Shaq.

Most bron stans would be honest enough to stay away from these type of discussions but your love
for delonte's son makes you look stupid and pathetic as f.

Don't put your foot in your mouth again by mentioning defense then go back and hide again.

Man you bron stans fight for every great teammate or opponent of MJ & Kobe's time.