Funny to see Ace Bailey's plan blow up. Utah wasn't one of his preferred destinations.
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Funny to see Ace Bailey's plan blow up. Utah wasn't one of his preferred destinations.
I am not the only one trippin about the nets picks
[video=youtube_share;ClN_zgKUjyA]https://youtu.be/ClN_zgKUjyA?si=pAr6cleGULVPy1qY[/video]
Knowing nothing about Ace Bailey or the advice he's been given I'm going to spitball a theory: He just didn't want to be drafted by a bad team. Or at least, he was hoping to join the best team possible. Pro sports are one of the few jobs where the employee has no control over where he lives, who he works for and works with. Not that they get any sympathy but if you think about it and you're like, "I'll still be a millionaire either way" you might just want to engineer your own fall in the draft in the hopes that you join a playoff team. Maybe he doesn't want to be a franchise savior. And even if you're an elite talent, who would you rather be, Kobe joining Shaq and the Lakers or T-Mac going to Toronto whose only teammate I can remember came into the league after he did?
Of course if you play for a year of major college basketball teams will have a huge file on you anyway and a GM like Danny Ainge will be willing to draft you sight unseen. The best way to control draft destination is still just to go full villain and tell teams that you don't want to play for them. 40 mil is a lot of money to pay someone that doesn't want to be there.
You got it backwards. He wanted to come to DC because he would get all the touches he could handle. We are the only team he worked out for.
But ainge dgaf
[QUOTE=Real Men Wear Green;15017780]Knowing nothing about Ace Bailey or the advice he's been given I'm going to spitball a theory: He just didn't want to be drafted by a bad team. Or at least, he was hoping to join the best team possible. Pro sports are one of the few jobs where the employee has no control over where he lives, who he works for and works with. Not that they get any sympathy but if you think about it and you're like, "I'll still be a millionaire either way" you might just want to engineer your own fall in the draft in the hopes that you join a playoff team. Maybe he doesn't want to be a franchise savior. And even if you're an elite talent, who would you rather be, Kobe joining Shaq and the Lakers or T-Mac going to Toronto whose only teammate I can remember came into the league after he did?
Of course if you play for a year of major college basketball teams will have a huge file on you anyway and a GM like Danny Ainge will be willing to draft you sight unseen. The best way to control draft destination is still just to go full villain and tell teams that you don't want to play for them. 40 mil is a lot of money to pay someone that doesn't want to be there.[/QUOTE]
Yeah but what teams are not bad in the lottery? Typically it’s where most bad teams pick. lol
Dallas
SA
Philly
Charlotte
Utah
Washington
NO
BKN
Toronto
Phx
Portland
Chicago
Atlanta
Dallas and Philly were playoff caliber teams smacked by injury. Cooper was going to Dallas. So a good team would’ve been Philly. Maybe Atlanta? But that’s a late lottery pick. I don’t see many promising situations either as far as “not bad but best team possible”. He probably shouldn't have bothered addressing where he wants to go and why. And I blame his agent/handlers more than an 18yr. Now you’re not only fighting what every rookie does (prove yourself) but unlike them? You have to now fight the public perception (valid or not) about you. You’ll always have to answer to predraft stuff even if stuff said isn’t accurate. I hope he’s mentally tough and matures to handle that. It’ll be exhausting. But I just don’t see a team in the lottery that fit what he wanted to do (based on your theory)
[QUOTE=tontoz;15017784]You got it backwards. He wanted to come to DC because he would get all the touches he could handle. We are the only team he worked out for.
But ainge dgaf[/QUOTE] When's the last time a player wanted to be drafted by the Wizards? Maybe John Wall, just because he wanted to be first?
Edit: not disagreeing just asking a question.
[QUOTE=tontoz;15017784]You got it backwards. He wanted to come to DC because he would get all the touches he could handle. We are the only team he worked out for.
But ainge dgaf[/QUOTE]
The ainges give a ****. Thats why they drafted the best player
[QUOTE=tontoz;15017778]I am not the only one trippin about the nets picks
[video=youtube_share;ClN_zgKUjyA]https://youtu.be/ClN_zgKUjyA?si=pAr6cleGULVPy1qY[/video][/QUOTE]
I think their own fans are tripping. On a nets forum they had a poll where they all wanted Noa Essengue at 8. They picked 4 guards with their 5 first round picks and two foreigners. I’m pretty sure Net fans are calling for the firing of the GM.
[QUOTE=GOBB;15017785]Yeah but what teams are not bad in the lottery? Typically it’s where most bad teams pick. lol
Dallas
SA
Philly
Charlotte
Utah
Washington
NO
BKN
Toronto
Phx
Portland
Chicago
Atlanta
Dallas and Philly were playoff caliber teams smacked by injury. Cooper was going to Dallas. So a good team would’ve been Philly. Maybe Atlanta? But that’s a late lottery pick. I don’t see many promising situations either as far as “not bad but best team possible”. He probably shouldn't have bothered addressing where he wants to go and why. And I blame his agent/handlers more than an 18yr. Now you’re not only fighting what every rookie does (prove yourself) but unlike them? You have to now fight the public perception (valid or not) about you. You’ll always have to answer to predraft stuff even if stuff said isn’t accurate. I hope he’s mentally tough and matures to handle that. It’ll be exhausting. But I just don’t see a team in the lottery that fit what he wanted to do (based on your theory)[/QUOTE] It sounds like my theory was off but either way the important thing for him, that he plays well, hasn't changed. Eli Manning, John Elway, Kobe etc controlled where they went as rookies and the general public still remembers them as heroes because they won. Meanwhile they're was a guy that went to Phoenix that the Celtics wanted to look at, he did something that had people mad at the time regarding his workout with them, Celtics go on a different direction and 8 years into his career I don't remember his name anymore (Somerhing Jackson?) because he didn't ball. You can say that it adds to the pressure but it doesn't matter much, pro athletes already have a certain amount of pressure. It just creates an arena where they'll get booed harder on away games but they were still going to get booed.
[QUOTE=ReturnofJPR;15017791]I think their own fans are tripping. On a nets forum they had a poll where they all wanted Noa Essengue at 8. They picked 4 guards with their 5 first round picks and two foreigners. I’m pretty sure Net fans are calling for the firing of the GM.[/QUOTE]Not speaking on the individual players drafted but as to the approach, if you have a bad team like the Nets you should draft for talent not fit. Get the best players you can and make deals to make a good team when you figure out who you want to keep, who you want to move, what the players are worth to you, etc. Nets don't need to rush its not like they are playing for the championship next year.
[QUOTE=Real Men Wear Green;15017789]When's the last time a player wanted to be drafted by the Wizards? Maybe John Wall, just because he wanted to be first?
Edit: not disagreeing just asking a question.[/QUOTE]
Uhhh....last year lol. Sarr refused to work out for Atlanta because he wanted to come to DC.
[QUOTE=Xiao Yao You;15017790]The ainges give a ****. Thats why they drafted the best player[/QUOTE]
That was my point. They didn't care about what Ace wanted. They didn't care about his agent's shenanigans.
[QUOTE=tontoz;15017798]Uhhh....last year lol. Sarr refused to work out for Atlanta because he wanted to come to DC.[/QUOTE]
Go figure. Wizards always seemed to me like a team players would prefer to avoid.
[QUOTE=Xiao Yao You;15017790]The ainges give a ****. Thats why they drafted the best player[/QUOTE]
It’s really the best motto when drafting top lottery. Granted I’ve seen the weaknesses of Ace that does raise concerns. The fact Danny picked him without caring about the noise (that swayed me surprisingly + weaknesses). He might be laughing in 3 years lol
[QUOTE=Real Men Wear Green;15017805]Go figure. Wizards always seemed to me like a team players would prefer to avoid.[/QUOTE]
New management now. Will Dawkins worked under Presti for years.