Ace Bailey is legit

[QUOTE=tontoz;15038000]The first 8 picks in the draft were 1 and done. I guess they didnt get your memo about guys staying in school. :lol[/QUOTE]

The top prospects are still going more guys are staying longer. They have options now. Many guys entered the tranfer portal and the draft. In The past they would have had to sit a year to transfer so they may have went pro if they werent happy at their school than sit a year or because they needed to feed their family.

Flagg only freshman on 1st or 2nd team all america. 3 graduate seniors. 2 seniors. 2 juniors. 2 sophomores. Those teams were dominated by freshman for a couple decades. Players staying in school makes a better game in college and the nba. Might be hard for ish to ununderstand? :confusedshrug:

Also have euro pros going to ncaa which couldnt happen in the past

[QUOTE=Xiao Yao You;15038008]The top prospects are still going more guys are staying longer. They have options now. Many guys entered the tranfer portal and the draft. In The past they would have had to sit a year to transfer so they may have went pro if they werent happy at their school than sit a year or because they needed to feed their family.

Flagg only freshman on 1st or 2nd team all america. 3 graduate seniors. 2 seniors. 2 juniors. 2 sophomores. Those teams were dominated by freshman for a couple decades. Players staying in school makes a better game in college and the nba. Might be hard for ish to ununderstand? :confusedshrug:[/QUOTE]


So who were the guys who could have been drafted this year but decided to stay in school? I know a couple but this is not a common thing.

[QUOTE=Xiao Yao You;15038010]Also have euro pros going to ncaa which couldnt happen in the past[/QUOTE]


The top 2 picks in the draft last year played overseas . Holland and Buzelis played for overtime elite which didn't even exist in 2006.

[QUOTE=tontoz;15038015]The top 2 picks in the draft last year didn't play in college.[/QUOTE]

But they also have other options now. Demin went to an nba program and became a lottery pick

[QUOTE=Xiao Yao You;15038017]But they also have other options now. Demin went to an nba program and became a lottery pick[/QUOTE]

Another one and done. Guys who can get drafted don't stay in school often. It is the random late 1st/2nd round guys that decided to stay in school

A handful of guys aren't enough to change the competitive landscape. There are so many teams that the effect is negligible.There are 18 teams just in the big 10.

[QUOTE=tontoz;15038020]Another one and done. Guys who can get drafted don't stay in school often. It is the random late 1st/2nd round guys that decided to stay in school

A handful of guys aren't enough to change the competitive landscape. There are so many teams that the effect is negligible.There are 18 teams just in the big 10.[/QUOTE]

Guys guaranteed 1st round makes sense. 2 guaranteed years. Otherwise they are weighing their options especially if they like school like student athletes should. Stupid to have guys in college that are only there to play sports. Give the scholarships to those who want to be there. If the gleague was a real minor league it would help. The best player in the final four played 4 years as did half of the all americans i.e. the best players.. older players is better. The ncaa and nba are better now. Not as good as when most guys played 4 or at least 3 but a lot better than it was before nil and portal for sure. Less guys like cody williams and keyonte george watering down the nba on tanking teams is better

Also more ncaa teams hiring nba coaches and personnel to prepare guys for the nba

Much better than before nil? :lol

NIL just started and there are only a handful of guys choosing to stay in school instead of getting drafted. You are acting like it is dozens of players even though you can't name one of them.

Two of the guys drafted top 10 last season played in the gleague.

[QUOTE=tontoz;15038024]Much better than before nil? :lol

NIL just started and there are only a handful of guys choosing to stay in school instead of getting drafted. You are acting like it is dozens of players even though you can't name one of them.

Two of the guys drafted top 10 last season played in the gleague.[/QUOTE]

I have to name the graduate seniors and seniors who were voted as top 10 players? Broome, clayton, sears, jones and tonje. Tonje i know is 24. The average age has went up. A handful of players doesnt change the average age. Most of the guys drafted top 10 should have played in the gleague. That is a big part of the problem. They should all be considered gleaguers until they prove otherwise. Nba should be for proven vets. A lot easier to tank with gleaguers though. You if anyone should have a handle on it with that roster. You called ace a project. Projects should be in the gleague not taking minutes from a proven vet. Sucks!

[QUOTE=Xiao Yao You;15038026]I have to name the graduate seniors and seniors who were voted as top 10 players? Broome, clayton, sears, jones and tonje. Tonje i know is 24. The average age has went up. A handful of players doesnt change the average age. Most of the guys drafted top 10 should have played in the gleague. That is a big part of the problem. They should all be considered gleaguers until they prove otherwise. Nba should be for proven vets. A lot easier to tank with gleaguers though. You if anyone should have a handle on it with that roster. You called ace a project. Projects should be in the gleague not taking minutes from a proven vet. Sucks![/QUOTE]

Do you not understand English? Let's try this again.

Who are the guys who COULD HAVE BEEN DRAFTED THIS YEAR BUT DECIDED TO GO BACK TO SCHOOL INSTEAD?

Two I know of are Yaxel Lendeborg and Philon? Anyone else?

[QUOTE=tontoz;15038027]Do you not understand English? Let's try this again.

Who are the guys who COULD HAVE BEEN DRAFTED THIS YEAR BUT DECIDED TO GO BACK TO SCHOOL INSTEAD?

Two I know of are Yaxel Lendeborg and Philon? Anyone else?[/QUOTE]

I named 5 of the top 10 players that have played at 4 years instead of going pro. Only flagg was a freshman so 9 of 10 went back for more schooling after their freshman year. I know ritchie saunders went back to try to win the title with aj

multiple reports list over 30 players who withdrew before the initial May 28 deadline, with others withdrawing even later. Some articles specifically mention the return of players like Braden Smith (Purdue) and Thomas Haugh (Florida).

Significant increase: The number of players returning to college after declaring for the draft was notably high in 2025, potentially higher than previous years. This is the first year that players can withdraw after the NBA combine, giving more flexibility.

At least 45 NCAA players entered the 2025 NBA draft and then withdrew to return to college, though the exact number fluctuates and some sources may vary. This was a significant number, driven in part by factors like Name, Image, and Likeness (NIL) deals and recent rule changes allowing players to withdraw even after the NBA combine.

In the past more than 60 guys entered the nba draft early when only 60 can be drafted. Now they have other options than going pro. Not sure why that is so difficult to undetstand?

NIL deals: High-profile NIL deals at some universities made it more financially viable for players to stay in school.
Draft projections: Many players who were not projected as lottery picks or first-round selections opted to return to school to improve their draft stock.
Rule changes: The new rule allowing players to return to school after the combine if they notify their athletic director by a certain deadline provided a safety net for those who participated in the event.

[QUOTE=Xiao Yao You;15038030]At least 45 NCAA players entered the 2025 NBA draft and then withdrew to return to college, though the exact number fluctuates and some sources may vary. This was a significant number, driven in part by factors like Name, Image, and Likeness (NIL) deals and recent rule changes allowing players to withdraw even after the NBA combine.[/QUOTE]



:facepalm

Nobody was talking about the draft stock of Clayton or Sears last year. If they had come out they would behave been mid 2nd round picks at best, probably going undrafted.

Feel free to post the mock drafts from last year that had Clayton or Sears ranked anywhere.

Guys staying 4 years is nothing new. They were doing that 20 years ago too because their draft stock wasn't high enough to come out early.

You still haven't provided one name that would have been drafted this year but chose to go back to school.
Just because someone declared for the draft doesn't mean they actually would have been drafted. A lot of guys who went back to school did so because they didn't get drafted.