Jordan 69 pt game vs Kobe 81 point game

[QUOTE=Heavincent]Kobe was playing within the realm of the offense for most of the first half...but it wasn't working at all. They were down nearly 20 to the Raptors at one point. The Lakers came back when Kobe started playing hero ball.[/QUOTE]

All Im saying is that if he doesn't go into that hero mode, he probably doesn't shoot that many times...much more indivdual play in the Kobe game than the Jordan game, but u can't knock him, dude was blazing hot...even me a Jordan guy knows peak "on fire"... Kobe is more dangerous cause the long ball.

I think I'll actually take Kobe's 81. Maybe if Jordan's didn't take OT I would give him the edge.

I don't see why people are bitching about Kobe's game that much. Who cares? Its literally the one comparison Kobe wins over Jordan :oldlol:

[QUOTE=Money 23]Son, I've seen Kobe's career come and go.

I was on the boards rooting for him time and time again ... believe me I'm objective when it comes to Kobe.

And watched him disappoint over and over in the playoffs and Finals. The most memorable Kobe games from the playoffs were his 48 v.s. the Nuggets in the 1st round in 2008, and his 50 against Phoenix in game 6 in 2006.

That's it. He just hasn't had many solo legendary games in the playoffs. Kobe / Laker stans still clinging to a self indulgent regular season game from 2006. It's pathetic.[/QUOTE]

48/16 vs the Kings in 01
45/10 vs the Kings in 01
45/10 vs the Spurs in 01
50 vs the Suns in 06
49/10 vs the Nuggets in 08
40/6/3 on 60% vs the Rockets in 09
Averaged 34/6/6 on 48% in the 09 WCF (2 40 point games in this series)
40/8/8 vs the Magic in the 09 Finals
Averaged 34/8/7 on 52% vs the Suns in 2010 WCF

Those are just a few of his memorable playoff games. He has a shitload of 30+ point performances. Top 3 all time in that category I think. lol at him not being a great playoff performer. Just laughable.

[QUOTE=Heavincent]48/16 vs the Kings in 01
45/10 vs the Kings in 01
45/10 vs the Spurs in 01
50 vs the Suns in 06
49/10 vs the Nuggets in 08
40/6/3 on 60% vs the Rockets in 09
Averaged 34/6/6 on 48% in the 09 WCF (2 40 point games in this series)
40/8/8 vs the Magic in the 09 Finals
Averaged 34/8/7 on 52% vs the Suns in 2010 WCF

Those are just a few of his memorable playoff games. He has a shitload of 30+ point performances. Top 3 all time in that category I think. lol at him not being a great playoff performer. Just laughable.[/QUOTE]

Pacers in Finals his run at the end of the game

[QUOTE=guy]I think I'll actually take Kobe's 81. Maybe if Jordan's didn't take OT I would give him the edge.

I don't see why people are bitching about Kobe's game that much. Who cares? Its literally the one comparison Kobe wins over Jordan :oldlol:[/QUOTE]

Yeah....cuz Lebron supposedly has so much more over Jordan than Kobe does....right?:sleeping

[QUOTE=Heavincent]48/16 vs the Kings in 01
45/10 vs the Kings in 01
45/10 vs the Spurs in 01
50 vs the Suns in 06
49/10 vs the Nuggets in 08
40/6/3 on 60% vs the Rockets in 09
Averaged 34/6/6 on 48% in the 09 WCF (2 40 point games in this series)
40/8/8 vs the Magic in the 09 Finals
Averaged 34/8/7 on 52% vs the Suns in 2010 WCF

Those are just a few of his memorable playoff games. He has a shitload of 30+ point performances. Top 3 all time in that category I think. lol at him not being a great playoff performer. Just laughable.[/QUOTE]
None of those were legendary performances, kid. Some great performances no doubt, but nothing awe inspiring.

Not an individual game in that lot that serves as a memory. That is a microcosm of who Kobe Bryant was as a player. Something we will always remember him for ... a stamp on NBA playoff / Finals history.

No the way Kobe stans and the moronic latin cholo Laker fan base percieve Kobe's reputation as a player on a self indulgent 81 point regular season game.

You listed a damn series in there haha ... in the vast majority of these cases, given Kobe's team, he was the favorite in the series.

There wasn't a series of events where Kobe overcame some obstacle and just did something no one would've expected.

The closest Kobe has EVER come in recent history to a truly memorable and legendary performance was in the 2010 Finals. Boston was roughing them up, showing signs they were the better team (and w/ Perk, I think they were) ... he had that STUNNING 19 point 3rd quarter.

And that's when I said "wow, the self entitled black mamba is finally going to do his venomous 81 point thing in an actual MEANINGUL game with something on the line" ... and then he didn't duplicate it in the 4th. And failed to meet legendary expectations once again.

That was his opportunity. To seperate himself and become a MEMORY. The way we remember past legends stand out games in a HIGH pressure and intensity atmosphere. But he blew it. That year given his physical abilities was the last time he'd be able to do it on an EPIC scale against a very difficult opponent. That opportunity is gone.

The most lasting Kobe legendary memory is how he took over in the final minutes for Team USA in the gold medal game in 2008. And they wouldn't have even been in the game if it wasn't for the clutch-ness of D-Wade through 3 quarters.

All those games you mentioned, no casual or even regular NBA fan lists those as [B]LEGENDARY[/B] games. I get it, that's your guy. And he's easily the 2nd greatest SG of all-time. But please, hop off his d1ck ... lay off and stay off.

I'd go so far to say even Jerry West has had more truly legendary type performances in the playoffs or Finals. Elgin Baylor as well.

[QUOTE=chazzy]The value/impact of ~15 rebounds certainly changes when it's a Jordan or Kobe game, huh?[/QUOTE]
12 more rebounds + 4 more assists + 1 more steal + 1 less turnover > 12 points

Kobe played 42 mins and Jordan played 50 mins. Their PER36 statline would be like this;
Kobe - 69.4/5.1/1.7/2.6/0.9 (69/5/2)
Jordan - 49.7/13.0/4.3/2.9/0.7 (50/13/4)

[QUOTE=LakersReign]Yeah....cuz Lebron supposedly has so much more over Jordan than Kobe does....right?:sleeping[/QUOTE]
:wtf: what the Hell is your issue? Who the **** brought up Lebron :oldlol: ?

[QUOTE=guy]:wtf: what the Hell is your issue? Who the **** brought up Lebron :oldlol: ?[/QUOTE]

So......we're suppose to believe that you dissin' Kobe in comparison to Jordan(like [B][U]ALL[/U][/B] Lebron fans do) has nothing to do with you, being a bandwagon Lebron fan....huh? Riiiiiiiiiiiight:rolleyes:

Oh, and by the way....Page 1:
[QUOTE=Xplicit]Jordan x1000.

How can say with a straight face that Kobe's was more impressive? You people saying that are the same ones complaining about the rules today against defending wing-players. You complain about how guys like Wade and Lebron have it so easy nowadays without handchecking.. yet you totally fail to mention that Jordan scored his 69 with guys physically abusing him all game. Kobe would NEVER score 69, let alone 81, in Jordan's day with the same handchecking rules. NEVER[/QUOTE][url]http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=15422[/url]

Try again:no:

[QUOTE=LakersReign]So......we're suppose to believe that you dissin' Kobe in comparison to Jordan(like [B][U]ALL[/U][/B] Lebron fans do) has nothing to do with you, being a bandwagon Lebron fan....huh? Riiiiiiiiiiiight:rolleyes:

Oh, and by the way....Page 1:
[url]http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=15422[/url]

Try again:no:[/QUOTE]

I'm not a Lebron fan at all.

[QUOTE=guy]I'm not a Lebron fan at all.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=guy]Address my points with something more then "nemesis". Fact is the Lakers BIGGEST threat going into the 09 season, the defending champion Celtics that wiped the floor with them the previous season, had their chances go up in flames due to injury. The 09 Celtics were a much bigger threat to the 09 Lakers then any team, including the 12 Bulls and 12 Magic, was in 2012 to the Heat. Address the fact that those Celtics beat the Lakers the year before while none of the teams you brought up for the Heat beat the Heat the previous season. Address the fact that a team that took the Lakers to 7 games did it without their 2 best players. Make a sound argument against that would justify discrediting only Lebron's run and not Kobe's run as well. If you can, I will have no problem saying I'm wrong.[/QUOTE][url]http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=276131&page=16[/url]

Uh huh:rolleyes:

So...I guess the reason why you're the only person on the planet trying to compare the Lakers '09 season to Lebron 2012 season, was cuz you had nothing better to do then....huh? Try again:no:

[QUOTE=LakersReign][url]http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=276131&page=15[/url]

Uh huh:rolleyes:

So...I guess the reason why you're the only person on the planet trying to compare the Lakers '09 season to Lebron 2012 season, was cuz you had nothing better to do then....huh? Try again:no:[/QUOTE]
How does that prove he is a Lebron fan? :oldlol:

Learn how to read:sleeping

[QUOTE=LakersReign]Learn how to read:sleeping[/QUOTE]
Damn, LeBron has Reigny straight SHOOK. LBJ is ALWAYS on this guy's mind, talk about paranoid:oldlol:

[QUOTE=LakersReign]Learn how to read:sleeping[/QUOTE]
You changed the thread link and the quote, anyways that doesn't make him a fan, saying Lebron's 2012 run was better than Kobe's 2009 run is the consensus. So if that makes him a Lebron fan then just about everyone is a Lebron fan.

Jordan's for sure, and that's not a knock on Kobe's game either.

Not the point of the thread but an amazing game I hear almost no one talk about is Chamberlains 73 point, 36 rebound game against HOF center Walt Bellamy on 60% shooting

also his 60 and 66 point games in 1969 weren't to shabby either considering his role changes and age. (33)

of the 62 60+ games in NBA history, Wilts got 33. 53% of them

[url]http://www.nbauniverse.com/records/60_or_more_points.htm[/url]

[QUOTE=Money 23]None of those were legendary performances, kid. Some great performances no doubt, but nothing awe inspiring.

Not an individual game in that lot that serves as a memory. That is a microcosm of who Kobe Bryant was as a player. Something we will always remember him for ... a stamp on NBA playoff / Finals history.

No the way Kobe stans and the moronic latin cholo Laker fan base percieve Kobe's reputation as a player on a self indulgent 81 point regular season game.

You listed a damn series in there haha ... in the vast majority of these cases, given Kobe's team, he was the favorite in the series.

There wasn't a series of events where Kobe overcame some obstacle and just did something no one would've expected.

The closest Kobe has EVER come in recent history to a truly memorable and legendary performance was in the 2010 Finals. Boston was roughing them up, showing signs they were the better team (and w/ Perk, I think they were) ... he had that STUNNING 19 point 3rd quarter.

And that's when I said "wow, the self entitled black mamba is finally going to do his venomous 81 point thing in an actual MEANINGUL game with something on the line" ... and then he didn't duplicate it in the 4th. And failed to meet legendary expectations once again.

That was his opportunity. To seperate himself and become a MEMORY. The way we remember past legends stand out games in a HIGH pressure and intensity atmosphere. But he blew it. That year given his physical abilities was the last time he'd be able to do it on an EPIC scale against a very difficult opponent. That opportunity is gone.

The most lasting Kobe legendary memory is how he took over in the final minutes for Team USA in the gold medal game in 2008. And they wouldn't have even been in the game if it wasn't for the clutch-ness of D-Wade through 3 quarters.

All those games you mentioned, no casual or even regular NBA fan lists those as [B]LEGENDARY[/B] games. I get it, that's your guy. And he's easily the 2nd greatest SG of all-time. But please, hop off his d1ck ... lay off and stay off.

I'd go so far to say even Jerry West has had more truly legendary type performances in the playoffs or Finals. Elgin Baylor as well.[/QUOTE]

First of all, I don't know why you feel the need to talk down to me. I'm not a new NBA fan. Maybe you have been watching longer than me, but that's irrelevant in this conversation. I've witnessed the majority of Kobe's career, just like you have.

I don't know what makes Lebron's performances so legendary compared to Kobe's. Just because there was more pressure on Lebron? That was kind of his own fault actually. Many people were expecting him to come up short in game 6 in Boston because of what happened the year before. But instead he came up huge. Props to him for that, but why it so vastly superior to Kobe's many 40+ point outbursts in the playoffs?

You said Kobe never had to overcome an obstacle. You're propping him up and you don't even know it. He's always expected to win, so of course he never really shocked anybody. His scoring outbursts are just "normal". He does it all the time. He's 3rd all time in playoff points, and has a good chance of being #1 in that category when it's all said and done.

[QUOTE=Money 23]None of those were legendary performances, kid. Some great performances no doubt, but nothing awe inspiring.

Not an individual game in that lot that serves as a memory. That is a microcosm of who Kobe Bryant was as a player. Something we will always remember him for ... a stamp on NBA playoff / Finals history.

No the way Kobe stans and the moronic latin cholo Laker fan base percieve Kobe's reputation as a player on a self indulgent 81 point regular season game.

You listed a damn series in there haha ... in the vast majority of these cases, given Kobe's team, he was the favorite in the series.

There wasn't a series of events where Kobe overcame some obstacle and just did something no one would've expected.

The closest Kobe has EVER come in recent history to a truly memorable and legendary performance was in the 2010 Finals. Boston was roughing them up, showing signs they were the better team (and w/ Perk, I think they were) ... he had that STUNNING 19 point 3rd quarter.

And that's when I said "wow, the self entitled black mamba is finally going to do his venomous 81 point thing in an actual MEANINGUL game with something on the line" ... and then he didn't duplicate it in the 4th. And failed to meet legendary expectations once again.

That was his opportunity. To seperate himself and become a MEMORY. The way we remember past legends stand out games in a HIGH pressure and intensity atmosphere. But he blew it. That year given his physical abilities was the last time he'd be able to do it on an EPIC scale against a very difficult opponent. That opportunity is gone.

The most lasting Kobe legendary memory is how he took over in the final minutes for Team USA in the gold medal game in 2008. And they wouldn't have even been in the game if it wasn't for the clutch-ness of D-Wade through 3 quarters.

All those games you mentioned, no casual or even regular NBA fan lists those as [B]LEGENDARY[/B] games. I get it, that's your guy. And he's easily the 2nd greatest SG of all-time. But please, hop off his d1ck ... lay off and stay off.

I'd go so far to say even Jerry West has had more truly legendary type performances in the playoffs or Finals. Elgin Baylor as well.[/QUOTE]

Hi Swoosh

[QUOTE=kuniva_dAMiGhTy]Hi Swoosh[/QUOTE]
Good pick up ... what's going on?

[QUOTE=Money 23]Good pick up ... what's going on?[/QUOTE]
Samurai Swoosh? Hey, now you have to admit LeBron's not a frontrunner :D Came back from being down in three straight series :banana:

[QUOTE=LakersReign][url]http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=276131&page=16[/url]

Uh huh:rolleyes:

So...I guess the reason why you're the only person on the planet trying to compare the Lakers '09 season to Lebron 2012 season, was cuz you had nothing better to do then....huh? Try again:no:[/QUOTE]

You really want to bring back up a thread where you basically argued yourself stupid and looked like a complete idiot?

I actually wasn't saying one run was better then the other (although I do believe Lebron's was easily). I was using Kobe's 09 run as an example that you can discredit any playoff run in response to people discrediting Lebron's 12 run. And even if I wanted to compare the two, how does that make me a fan? I could just be comparing them cause I think its interesting. Those two are pretty much the two most popular players of almost the decade. Does that mean anyone that compares two players has to be a fan of one of them? Thats a stupid assumption.

Watched both games several times and I like the 81 better. The onslaught of points in the second half was amazing. Not to take anything away from Jordan's performance, especially the 18 rebounds.

[QUOTE=Money 23]Good pick up ... what's going on?[/QUOTE]

:cheers:

Don't take this the wrong way, it's just you got a very unique style. :lol Jordan homer / Kobe fan (very rare) with perspective. Good to see you back.

[QUOTE=jongib369]Jordan's for sure, and that's not a knock on Kobe's game either.

Not the point of the thread but an amazing game I hear almost no one talk about is Chamberlains 73 point, 36 rebound game against HOF center Walt Bellamy on 60% shooting

also his 60 and 66 point games in 1969 weren't to shabby either considering his role changes and age. (33)

of the 62 60+ games in NBA history, Wilts got 33. 53% of them

[url]http://www.nbauniverse.com/records/60_or_more_points.htm[/url][/QUOTE]

Wilt also had a 78/43/3 game, as well as a 53/32/14 game.

[QUOTE=guy]You really want to bring back up a thread where you basically argued yourself stupid and looked like a complete idiot?

I actually wasn't saying one run was better then the other (although I do believe Lebron's was easily). I was using Kobe's 09 run as an example that you can discredit any playoff run in response to people discrediting Lebron's 12 run. And even if I wanted to compare the two, how does that make me a fan? I could just be comparing them cause I think its interesting. Those two are pretty much the two most popular players of almost the decade. Does that mean anyone that compares two players has to be a fan of one of them? Thats a stupid assumption.[/QUOTE]

The only people making any kind of a big deal about Lebron's title run, are bandwagon Lebron fans like you. Nobody else on the planet thinks it's as big of a deal as bandwagon Lebron fans, like you try to make it out to be. Therefore, they don't feel this NEED to try to legitimize it, like bandwagon Lebron fans like you do. Yeah, you were just sitting around one day and just decided to compare Lebron's 2012 to the Lakers '09 run, by sheer coincidence....right? Why not the Spurs/Mavs/Pistons/Celtics title runs....huh? Only bandwgon Lebron fans like you also feel this NEED to ALWAYS measure Lebron against Kobe. Only bandwagon Lebron fans like you want to overrate him even more, simply cuz he finally won a title. The evidence speaks for itself, and any reasonable person can see that you're really a bandwagon Lebron fan. Whether you admit it or not, is irrelevant. Nice try though:applause:

[QUOTE=RRR3]Samurai Swoosh? Hey, now you have to admit LeBron's not a frontrunner[/quote]
I gave dude props for having one of the absolute best, and most amazing playoff performances I have EVER seen.

Game 6 v.s. Boston was incredible. No expression, just straight murder of the opposition in the face of overwhelming odds, and incredible nation wide hate wanting to see him fail.

With that said, shut the hell up.

The reason he's still a coward and a front runner is because he's IN MIAMI with the super friends. That act shot his legacy in the foot. Guy had a career laid out for him in Cleveland that could've seen him challenge the throne to MJ. You can never get around that ...

He's still a front runner to me, but undoubtedly the best player in the game. As I have been saying since 2008 / 2009.

His mental approach is changing though, so there is hope. If he adopted the mentality of game 6, the Jordan-esque demeanor ... the assasin like cold blood approach. And not the over the top wanting to be ferocious antics of Kobe, or the passive / pu$$y LeBron of the past several years ... it would be lights out for the league.

But what are you talking about down in three straight series? The only one in serious question was the Celtics one. They never should've been down to Indiana. And in the Finals they were only down one game, no big deal.

With that said he also had some memorable performances in that Indiana series. Yet, he also had a sidekick who balled out of his mind a few games in that series too, even though he was injured.

Pippen never dropped 40+ in a playoff game. Neither has Pau Gasoft.

[QUOTE=LakersReign]The only people making any kind of a big deal about Lebron's title run, are bandwagon Lebron fans like you. Nobody else on the planet thinks it's as big of a deal as bandwagon Lebron fans, like you try to make it out to be. Therefore, they don't feel this NEED to try to legitimize it, like bandwagon Lebron fans like you do. Yeah, you were just sitting around one day and just decided to compare Lebron's 2012 to the Lakers '09 run, by sheer coincidence....right? Why not the Spurs/Mavs/Pistons/Celtics title runs....huh? Only bandwgon Lebron fans like you also feel this NEED to ALWAYS measure Lebron against Kobe. Only bandwagon Lebron fans like you want to overrate him even more, simply cuz he finally won a title. The evidence speaks for itself, and any reasonable person can see that you're really a bandwagon Lebron fan. Whether you admit it or not, is irrelevant. Nice try though:applause:[/QUOTE]

:oldlol: You're an odd fellow. Like I said, I'm not a Lebron fan. I root against both Lebron and Kobe so I don't have a bias towards either of them when they are compared. In fact, just in the past few days I've argued in another thread why I think Lebron shouldn't be considered a better player then Kobe in 2010 even though the consensus is that he was the best player of that year.

It wasn't a coincidence. The person who I initially responded to that tried to discredit Lebron's run was a Kobe fan and Kobe's 2009 run was the most recent similar example so I used it.

And what the hell are you talking about? Its not just Lebron fans that compare the two. Everyone does and understandably so since they've been clearly the 2 best players overall for at least the last 7 years.

And actually, people all over the media were making a pretty big deal out Lebron's run. Alot of unbiased people here were making a big deal out of it as well. Of course, I'm sure you are just going to say they are all biased Lebron fans that wear his jersey hidden under their clothes when they are in public :oldlol:

[QUOTE=DatAsh]Wilt also had a 78/43/3 game, as well as a 53/32/14 game.[/QUOTE]

You couldn't put up those numbers with a maxed out Wilt on 2K12 playing 12 minute quarters on Rookie difficulty.

[QUOTE=KG215]You couldn't put up those numbers with a maxed out Wilt on 2K12 playing 12 minute quarters on Rookie difficulty.[/QUOTE]
how someone can dominate his piers to that extent is ****in ridiculous. 73 and 36 against another HOF center?

[IMG]http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ltcdolA8Cs1qfu4tho1_500.gif[/IMG]

[QUOTE=guy]:oldlol: You're an odd fellow. Like I said, I'm not a Lebron fan. I root against both Lebron and Kobe so I don't have a bias towards either of them when they are compared. In fact, just in the past few days I've argued in another thread why I think Lebron shouldn't be considered a better player then Kobe in 2010 even though the consensus is that he was the best player of that year.

It wasn't a coincidence. The person who I initially responded to that tried to discredit Lebron's run was a Kobe fan and Kobe's 2009 run was the most recent similar example so I used it.

And what the hell are you talking about? Its not just Lebron fans that compare the two. Everyone does and understandably so since they've been clearly the 2 best players overall for at least the last 7 years.

And actually, people all over the media were making a pretty big deal out Lebron's run. Alot of unbiased people here were making a big deal out of it as well. Of course, I'm sure you are just going to say they are all biased Lebron fans that wear his jersey hidden under their clothes when they are in public :oldlol:[/QUOTE]

Deny it all you want. But ranking Lebron at 11 after 1 title when reasonable NBA fans have him at 12 to 15 wreaks of a card carrying Lebronyte. Nice try:applause:

[QUOTE=NBAEMoreira022]are you trying to say that MJ's 69 was better than Kobe's 81? go to the store and buy something that costs 81 dollars but instead only pay 69 dollars and 18 pennies and see if the clerk thinks its better than 81[/QUOTE]

THIS
ISH, where math comes to die, where common sense is meaningless unless it supports your point, where intelligence is not required as long as you have a computer. :oldlol:

[QUOTE=DKLaker]
ISH, where math comes to die[/QUOTE]
Ummm ...

Where was this about simple math?

Jordan contributed to 81 points for his team, as well as 18 rebounds v.s. a superior opponent.

The question was which was the better performance. And that answer is kind of simple.

Plus, organic v.s. contrived / forced.

[QUOTE=LakersReign]Deny it all you want. But ranking Lebron at 11 after 1 title when reasonable NBA fans have him at 12 to 15 wreaks of a card carrying Lebronyte. Nice try:applause:[/QUOTE]


:oldlol: First of all, I never actually gave my ranking of Lebron. Second of all, YOU PUT HIM AT 12 :roll: You're making this big of a sh*tshow out of ranking him #11 vs. #12???:oldlol:

:cheers: You're one of the best characters on this site. There's no way you actually believe half the sh*t you put on here so I have to assume you're just doing this to entertain us all. Good stuff.

[QUOTE=Roll]jordan could score 200 pts if he wanted to[/QUOTE]
lol

He would have, if he could have. Early in his career he was trying to murder folk. If he could have gotten over 81, he would have tried.

[QUOTE=Droid101]If he could have gotten over 81, he would have tried.[/QUOTE]
:biggums:

Kobe was at his absolute PEAK in 2006. The height combo of age, skill, IQ, and athletic ability. The conditions were set for him to do that, especially considering he put no effort anywhere else on the game. Whether it was creating for others or playing the defense he is capable of ...

That would be like PEAK 1990 / 1991 / 1992 / 1993 MJ playing on a horrific squad with no true title chances going out every night just looking to score.

You don't think he'd be able to sniff 81 given the right conditions? You're an idiot.

Dude put up 35 points in a HALF in the NBA Finals, sitting out half of the entire 2nd quarter against the NEXT best player at his position and the #2 MVP candidate.

It would be like Kobe going up against Wade in the Finals and dropping 40 on him in one half, then chilling the rest of the game.

He could've easily eclipsed 70 in that Finals game if the situation was right. And it was on national television, the brightest spotlight. In the FINALS ... you're a damn retard.

[QUOTE=guy]:oldlol: First of all, I never actually gave my ranking of Lebron. Second of all, YOU PUT HIM AT 12 :roll: You're making this big of a sh*tshow out of ranking him #11 vs. #12???:oldlol:

:cheers: You're one of the best characters on this site. There's no way you actually believe half the sh*t you put on here so I have to assume you're just doing this to entertain us all. Good stuff.[/QUOTE]

Me having Lebron at 12 like a reasonable NBA fan doesn't have anything to do with you pretending not to be a Lebron fan. Nice try:applause:

[QUOTE=LakersReign]Me having Lebron at 12 like a reasonable NBA fan doesn't have anything to do with you pretending not to be a Lebron fan. Nice try:applause:[/QUOTE]

Only a crazy biased Lebron fan would have him at #11 but a reasonable fan like you would have him at #12? :cheers:

I say Kobe had the a more entertaining stretch, but Jordan had the better game.

There was a video comparing the defense in the two games, and the Toronto defense was horrible. So for the trained eye, Jordan had the better game. Casual watcher, Kobe.

[QUOTE=guy]Only a crazy biased Lebron fan would have him at #11 but a reasonable fan like you would have him at #12? :cheers:[/QUOTE]

AND.......[B]NONE[/B] of that has anything to do with you pretending not to be a Lebron fan:rolleyes:

Just gotta love it how moronic bandwagon Lebron fans like you are ALWAYS b***hing about Laker fans not giving Lebron credit. But when we do it's STILL a problem. More proof that you're really a bandwagon Lebron fan. Nice try:applause:

[QUOTE=LakersReign]AND.......[B]NONE[/B] of that has anything to do with you pretending not to be a Lebron fan:rolleyes:

Just gotta love it how moronic bandwagon Lebron fans like you are ALWAYS b***hing about Laker fans not giving Lebron credit. But when we do it's STILL a problem. More proof that you're really a bandwagon Lebron fan. Nice try:applause:[/QUOTE]

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