Do people believe Kobe's personality is contrived?

[QUOTE=SinJackal] [B]Fisher's always walking around with his hands on his hips and his head cocked to the side with a stupid look on his face like a little black girl [/B]when they pretend like they're ignoring you, to show his disdain for calls right after he's just whined about them.
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Nevermind. This is Insidehoops. Not even going to waste my time. This place just continues to demonstrate why it is one of the worst spots on the web to discuss the game of basketball.

Bump, cause I'm getting hammered in another thread for suggesting Kobe is contrived.

[B]theres a problem with being contrived to the media[/B]???
really?
is this a serious question?
he is not contrived to his teammates or family so................

[QUOTE=macpierce]he is not contrived to his teammates or family so................[/QUOTE]

You know that how?

ok........so how do you know tom cruise is contrived? or lebron or wade or howard..............youre all basically starting shit with kobe with [B]NO FACTUAL EVIDENCE besides your own delusional opinions[/B]
and at the end of the day........is there a problem with being contrived???
NO

KObe is trying to be more Rah Rah,but deep down hes not. I remember his bio thing on FSN and Magic,Fisher,Horry,even Eddie Jones said theyd all go to strip clubs/bars/etc after games and Kobe was kinda aloof. One of the few superstars who truely loves the game of basketball i believe.

He has personality, hes just got a dry sense of humor.

whether or not somebody goes to a strip club is public knowledge now.........
I like titties too

[QUOTE=macpierce]ok........so how do you know tom cruise is contrived? or lebron or wade or howard..............youre all basically starting shit with kobe withNO FACTUAL EVIDENCE besides your own delusional opinions
and at the end of the day........[B]is there a problem with being contrived???
NO[/B][/QUOTE]

You have no evidence that he's not.

[QUOTE=macpierce]and why would anyone be contrived to their wife and kids? thats fu cking retarded PERIOD[/QUOTE]

So it's retarded to be like that, when you just said there's nothing wrong with being like that?

[QUOTE=ProfessorMurder]You have no evidence that he's not.

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This is probably the most well known logical fallacy.

God is real.. you can't prove he's not.

So the day after his late-night shooting exhibition in Miami, Kobe Bryant sits out Lakers' practice in Dallas? Hmmm,

Let's see what happened for what it really is people. Kobe is a total attention whore and everyone close to him knows it. He can't stand Miami being in the media all the the time and decided to get the cameras on him in the Lakers only trip to Miami after he got schooled by DWade in the 4th quarter.

Why do you think he decided to do this for the first time since 2004 in MIAMI ?? It's been so many years, and in the one night all year in Miami ? Make no mistake about it, if Miami wasn't a good team this year and didn't have the attention, Kobe wouldn't have ran to the cameras desperate for a little attention.

It's no coincidence that this is the first time he's pulled this on the road since 2004.. In Miami, in a year when they acquire LeBron to team up with Wade. And a night where he looked horrible in the final 3 quarters.

Why was he working on his shot when the problem was he couldn't get separation from Wade? He should have been working on trying to create room for himself if anything. And he should have been working on his defensive game.

And of course, Kobe was offered a private court for Kobe to practice his shots that was very nearby just a few steps away, with no reporters, no cameras, nobody around.. But he wanted the attention because he's a pathetic whore

[quote]Point worth noting: Heat did have private practice court for Kobe, which would have inconvenienced far fewer working at arena.[/quote]

[url]http://twitter.com/IraHeatBeat[/url]

Attention whore.

Chris Webber was worse. He grew up in the suburbs, two parent household, parents were teachers, yet he tries to give off this impression that he was street and came from the hood.

[QUOTE]In 1994, a coach in Philadelphia stated every day when he went to work, at 5 am there would be the sound of squeaking sneakers and basketball dribbling in the gym. That player that was always in there before the school even opened was Kobe Bryant. In 1996, while making his decision to skip college and bring his game to the professional level, Kobe Bryant was heavily scrutinized for being too immature for the NBA. The media, his peers, and the rest of the league questioned his heart and ability to make plays, and labelled him a selfish, arrogant waste of money after he shot 2 airballs as a rookie in a utah playoff game. A year later, a league wide media report came out and said that Kobe Bryant had small hands, no muscle, weak frame, weak jumpshot, defensive lapses, offense first midset and selfish style of play. They said that Kobe will not be able to become a winner in this league because he lacks the "it" factor. Through all media scrutiny, one aspect remained constant. Kobe Bryant was always the first person in the gym and the last one to leave. After winning 3 titles with the Lakers, he was labelled as the secondary option and his contributions to said titles were discounted. People said that those titles were won by shaq and Kobe couldnt do it on his own. After several fueds with his teammates, coaches and a colorado incident, Kobe was labelled "uncoachable, selfish, immature, arrogrant, and a criminal." Through all these times, one thing remained a constant, Kobe Bryant was the first person in the gym and the last to leave. After single-handedly carrying the Lakers in the playoffs and being undoubtedly the most valuable player in the league, the media and the league refused to give him the MVP award. A few years later, Kobe Bryant again made 3 appearances in the finals, winning 2 of them and has been currently labelled "old and slow." Through all this negativity, there is still one thing that remains a constant, Kobe Bryant is still the first person to be in the gym and the last guy to leave. This is RyderzDelight, reminding you that DETERMINATION counts![/QUOTE]

Suck it up haters!

[QUOTE=tpols]This is probably the most well known logical fallacy.

[b]God is real.. you can't prove he's not.[/b][/QUOTE]

first watch and listen to this a few times until your brainwashed mind gets it-

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T69TOuqaqXI[/url]

and after you absorb that, then watch

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQBDGMj2h-c[/url]


you lose. :D

[QUOTE=Heat007]first watch and listen to this a few times until your brainwashed mind gets it-

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T69TOuqaqXI[/url]

and after you absorb that, then watch

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQBDGMj2h-c[/url]


you lose. :D[/QUOTE]
I was providing an example of the logical fallacy not expressing my real viewpoints..

:facepalm

[QUOTE=PP34Deuce]KObe is trying to be more Rah Rah,but deep down hes not. I remember his bio thing on FSN and Magic,Fisher,Horry,even Eddie Jones said theyd all go to strip clubs/bars/etc after games and Kobe was kinda aloof. One of the few superstars who truely loves the game of basketball i believe.

He has personality, hes just got a dry sense of humor.[/QUOTE]

He was young at the time, felt he had no connection with the older players on the team. Thats why him and Fisher are so close because they came to the team the same time. It goes back to his love for basketball still. Even these days he's turning down the likes of Jay Z and hanging out because he'd rather stay in his room and watch some film to prepare for the next game.

I don't think he has a dry sense of humor, just serious on the court, off the court I read he's a really nice guy. He gets labeled an A-hole because of his actions on the court.

[QUOTE=andgar923]No question about it.

It seems almost silly at times.

Its not even a case of "is Kobe trying too hard?", because he IS trying too hard, and only a noob wouldn't see this.

Hell.... even [B][SIZE="7"]KPAH (Alphawolf)[/SIZE][/B] has mentioned this numerous times, and he's the no.1 Kobe stan on the planet!!

I think this is part of why many people dislike him and Bron is following his footsteps.

But to be fair to Kobe.... this is the norm in this generation.[/QUOTE]



:confusedshrug: saw this on the first page...??

ummmm...no, don't know any "PaH"....and I got alot of "contrived" "Wolf's" all over the webz....



anyways....Kobe's personality comes alot from traveling around as a youth...he has had to "fit in" in other cultures.....99% of the population will never have to go through that on Kobe's level.

is he Fake?...IMO no he isn't....He wants to be the "best".....and he has put in the work....nothing fake about that.


Fake is just talking about something and never doing anything about it.

Kobe backs it up.......that's as real as it gets right there.

I take pride in my ability to read people, to see who they truly are

I think beneath the "toughness" Kobe is a kind, goodhearted, extremely [I]sensitive[/I] person. I think he has been so focused on basketball his whole life that he didn't stop to figure out who he is as a person. But I think beyond the scowls and the chin-flexes Kobe is a good guy.

as for being tough- in a basketball sense, I'd say he [I]is[/I] tough. In fact, he is one of the most fearless players in the league. Anyone who pulls down 15 rebounds in that brutal game 7 is tough in my book, no matter how many missed shots.

now, having said all that, Kobe is an overrated, inefficient chucker! :D

He's in the zone..... he can hear jimmy

Kobe, ARod, Tiger are all fake personalities made to handle the media. These guys are as fake as boy bands and pop music. They are public relations and corporate creations. Only little kids and those who cannot see through the facade are fans of these guys.

Compare them to a guy like Nash who is just a normal dude, who is approachable, funny and laid back and you will understand the truth.

I think he has no personality. I think he borrows from everyone. I think he is a phony. I think he is one the greatest but a bit overrated.

[QUOTE=Big#50]I think he has no personality. I think he borrows from everyone. I think he is a phony. [B]I think he is one the greatest but a bit overrated.[/B][/QUOTE]

Did you just call him one of the greatest of all time and overrated in the same sentence? :oldlol:

[QUOTE=tpols]Jordan was actually a bigger asshole than kobe. [b]Dude trash talked like no other[/b] and always had a mean ass look on his face. But of course its not contrived for him.[/QUOTE]

Ummm Larry Bird

I think Kobe doesn't like the media, or random people in general... and there is nothing wrong with that. However, after the rape allegations, he had to be more vocal to repair his image, and thus he created the public 'personality' you see today.


So, yes, the personality he displays to us through the media is fake, but it isn't his fault. If I was famous, I would have some fake as persona I pushed on the public too, because I can't stand the media or the average person either.

I just hate the over seriousness some of these dudes possess. I mean you play a fricking child's game for a living. This constant "I have to prove people wrong", "winning is the only thing that matters", "revenge for slighting me" BS is played out.

MJ, Kobe, Lebron, and Tiger all come across as taking themselves way too seriously IMO.

Wait, Kobe has a personality? When did this happen?

I can understand why Kobe's personality may seem contrived. I found this great article on [url]http://www.jockbio.com[/url] regarding Kobe's personality.

Kobe

is this really why people hate him lol

[QUOTE=jstern]Bump, cause I'm getting hammered in another thread for suggesting Kobe is contrived.[/QUOTE]

As if Jordan's wasnt you groupie:oldlol:It's been noted in all of his biographies how the media protected him. Like how in Air Time they show him taking time for his wife and kids trying to portray him as some great family man...when in reality he was cheating and having affairs affairs left and right

[QUOTE=skaterbasist]Did you just call him one of the greatest of all time and overrated in the same sentence? :oldlol:[/QUOTE]
:lol

just wondering how many ppl here play the game of basketball? ones that actually competes?

its ****ing impossible to like kobe
i am still trying to figure how his own fans became fans of him
his game is overrated, he is actually one dimensional yes i said it all he can do right now is chuck up shots
he is cocky like hell ingame and trashtalks and throws cheapshots and fight other players
his game is extremly selfish and his teammates complain about his selfishness all the time, hell PHIL JACKSON made a book about kobes selfishness and how uncochable he is
then he is a criminal of the court raping other women
all his teammates hated him


lebron is a freakin saint compared to kobe
lebron is the most unselfish superstar
lebron never trashtalks he never fights he never is dirty throwing cheapshots
lebron never gets suspended
all teammates coaches and players love lebron because his game is unselfish and is a happy and funny guy
lebron has never done anything bad in his life
lebron has never done anything near BAD as kobe

LEBRON NEVER HAD THIS HATE TODAY BEFORE THE DECISION
it only happened because HE LEFT CLEVELAND
this is something that will pass and is already passing............

the "HATE" lebron has recieved recently is completely different from KOBE
he had only 2 months of hate
while kobe has been hated for 15 YEARS

KOBES HATE WILL NEVER PASS BECAUSE ITS REAL HATE FOR MAJOR OBVIOUS CONSTANT REASONS
KOBE IS A TRUE VILLAIN

[QUOTE=pauk]its ****ing impossible to like kobe
i am still trying to figure how his own fans became fans of him
his game is overrated, he is actually one dimensional yes i said it all he can do right now is chuck up shots
he is cocky like hell ingame and trashtalks and throws cheapshots and fight other players
his game is extremly selfish and his teammates complain about his selfishness all the time, hell PHIL JACKSON made a book about kobes selfishness and how uncochable he is
then he is a criminal of the court raping other women
all his teammates hated him


lebron is a freakin saint compared to kobe
lebron is the most unselfish superstar
all teammates coaches and players love lebron because his game is unselfish and is a happy and funny guy
lebron has never done anything bad in his life
lebron has never done anything near BAD as kobe

LEBRON NEVER HAD THIS HATE TODAY BEFORE THE DECISION
it only happened because HE LEFT CLEVELAND
this is something that will pass and is already passing............

the "HATE" lebron has recieved recently is completely different from KOBE
he had only 2 months of hate
while kobe has been hated for 15 YEARS

KOBES HATE WILL NEVER PASS BECAUSE ITS REAL HATE FOR MAJOR OBVIOUS CONSTANT REASONS
KOBE IS A TRUE VILLAIN[/QUOTE]

:blah :facepalm

and to the OP
this is what skip and them were talking about?
the stupid cocky expressions:

[img]http://www.allpichost.com/upload/56_kobe_i_fail.gif[/img]

that "I GOT BALLS" is just immature
when will he ever grow up

Yeah.

Like dancing in the court, making a world-wide tv program to announce where you playing next summer, or constantly writing stupid silly loser mentality tweets is veeeery mature....


:roll: :roll: :roll:


Please motherf*cker, please.

Kobe currently has 5 rings, and is heading towards his sixth, deal with it before you commit suicide due to how butthurt you are.

Re: Do people believe Kobe's personality is contrived?

Heat fans = Yes
Laker Fans =No

Sportswriters = No

why even make this troll thread, anyone can figure out the outcome

Kobe's one of the most competitive guys in the league, and he takes the game seriously.
Don't think her's an asshole just because of what he did to Battier. Player's on court and off court behavior could be totally different. Just because he's a fierce competitor, doesn't mean he's an asshole off the court too.

Same thing goes for Kevin Garnett. He trash talks a lot on court, He's actually one of the nicest guys of the court.

lol @ OP being a Laker fan.

[QUOTE=pauk]and to the OP
this is what skip and them were talking about?
the stupid cocky expressions:

[img]http://www.allpichost.com/upload/56_kobe_i_fail.gif[/img]

that "I GOT BALLS" is just immature
when will he ever grow up[/QUOTE]



Jesus christ dude....do you bust out into tears, and punch nearby walls during basketball games on television? Relax.

Yeah, sometimes. I do think Kobe overplays situations and occasionally comes off as an idiot. He also appears surprisingly insecure, which he shouldn't, since he's easily a top 15-20 player at worst. Then again, the media and the haters sometimes exaggerate Kobe's actions and point to his selfish, indecent ways when he's doing nothing wrong.

Watch his dunk contest what kind of person he was when he was a rookie. However his personality works for him that why he is the most successful player of this decade.