2 Days Have Passed and I STILL Can't Get Over the Fact That Durant Can't Bench 185

You're making this story up........

You finally say all these workouts you did now after saying before "no prior lifting experience, no manual labor." So now, according to your story, you DID have a lot of prior lifting experience, push-ups and pull-ups are indeed weightlifting. WITH DIFFERENT GRIPS, EVEN!

Secondly, it would STILL have been extremely rare for someone to be able to do 3 sets of 185 in their first time on the bench, 10 times, even with that experience. It universally takes time for your stabilizing muscles to get used to that much weight. Even naturally strong people struggle with the bench their first time, because of it. And if you were indeed 6'1, 180, the upper body you were pushing up on those pushups isn't near the weight you were supposedly throwing up on the bench.

You simply didn't accomplish this feat.

atleast loki is a little more realistic now.

he once said he used to do 1500 pushups and situps a day.

[QUOTE=dgbigballer9329]You're making this story up........

You finally say all these workouts you did now after saying before "no prior lifting experience, no manual labor." So now, according to your story, you DID have a lot of prior lifting experience, push-ups and pull-ups are indeed weightlifting. WITH DIFFERENT GRIPS, EVEN![/quote]

Umm, I've never considered push-ups "weight lifting." I figured most in-shape people do push-ups. By "manual labor," i meant things like working construction or moving air conditioners and stuff, which I never did.

[quote]You simply didn't accomplish this feat.[/QUOTE]

Okay.

[QUOTE=Dizzle-2k7]atleast loki is a little more realistic now.

he once said he used to do 1500 pushups and situps a day.[/QUOTE]

Situps maybe, since I used to do 3 sets of 450 at the top end (I'd vary it). Never push-ups. I topped out around sets of 80.

And I'm not sure where you're getting these "quotes" from me from, but whatever. :oldlol:


EDIT: As an aside, I worked up to that sh!t. When I started trying to do push-ups at age 15 and a half or so, I literally couldn't do two of them. I then just focused on doing one more every week, which, over a year and a half or so, got me up to 80 per set. Same thing for crunches, but I was able to do around 70 of those to start and added in increments of 5 per week.

Jtotheizzo.......GOBB owned you!!!


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Jtotheizzo: Faulk it!!!


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[QUOTE=Heilige]Jtotheizzo.......GOBB owned you!!!


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This thread kinda looks like it has been sidetracked somewhat and I didn't read it in its entirity, so forgive me if this has already been said, but I think the importance of bench press has been exagerrated a fair bit.

Low post positioning and being able to effectively beat defenders and get into the lane comes from leg strength and power through the hips. A strong base is the key. With the new hand checking and anti-wrestling-for-position focus, upper body strength is not greatly important anywhere other than finishing at the rim, and Durant's spring and wingspan should negate any need to bully his way to the hoop. He can simply shoot over and around most guys.

I'd be a lot more worried if he had leg strength issues.

bump--- lets keep this train going

I missed the first 16 pages, so maybe this was mentioned already... but I heard that Michael Jordan didn't lift weights until he got in the NBA, and even then he wasn't into it that much until a few years into the league. I can't verify that, but that's what I remember hearing. He did alright in the league.

I can bench more with my d?ck!

Yeah that's pretty pathetic. I don't even play sports that much anymore and I bench 180 lbs at least 10 times at 5'11/162 lbs.

I guess Durant will just have to fall back on the fact that he's going to make millions and kick women to the side that we can only salivate over.

[QUOTE=Lakers]Yeah that's pretty pathetic. I don't even play sports that much anymore and I bench 180 lbs at least 10 times at 5'11/162 lbs.

I guess Durant will just have to fall back on the fact that he's going to make millions and kick women to the side that we can only salivate over.[/QUOTE]

Yup, and the fact that he'll likely make the US olympic team over guys who can bench 185. :confusedshrug:

Because Marius Pudzianowski is the greatest basketball player ever.

yeah i didn't read all 16 pages of this...i had no idea it would be THAT big a deal. the NBA isn't the most upper body oriented sport in the world, and the group of guys i worked out with through high school could average about 175-190, none of them played basketball.

i worked out with the basketball team for 2 seasons (my knee was too fu*ked up to practice and play for a whole season, but i still practiced with them and such...) during my workout career in high school, i went from barely 135 to a max (2X) of 235 in about 3-4 semesters (1.5-2 years) at 6'0" around 175-180...

keep in mind...durant is only 19...i was on the bench for a good chunk of my training, so my results increased faster than a basketball player's probably should, considering the goals of basketball

i say cut him some slack for now and let him work with the NBA trainers for a season or two and you will be singing a different tune. bench is NOT a key part of basketball strength training (see Kevin Garnett...) and i think durant will still do fine in the league...get off his nuts about it...all of you are apparently hercules when it comes to bench. congrats...you're still not in the NBA - that's no reason to take it out on someone who is...

[QUOTE=Real Men Wear Green]To rebound, quickness off the ground and pure hustle are more important than strength. Looking at the NBA's to 10 rebounders:

Kevin Garnett , MIN
Tyson Chandler , NOK
Dwight Howard , ORL
Carlos Boozer , UTA
Marcus Camby , DEN
Emeka Okafor , CHA
Al Jefferson , BOS
Chris Bosh , TOR
Ben Wallace , CHI
Tim Duncan , SAS

There are four guys that started out their careers as weaker players (Garnett, Chandler, Camby, and Bosh) and of that group only Boozer, Okafor, and Wallace are getting a significant edge from muscle. Maybe Duncan as well (but it's more lower-body muscle than upper in all of their cases and especially Duncan's). Chandler and Bosh are still low on upper-body strength. If Durant can just work himself up to a toned 225 he should be a good rebounder.[/QUOTE]


agreed Except on Duncan
He may not be toned but I've heard tons of players talk about how strong Duncan is. Durant doesn't need to bulk up. I recall Penny Hardaway doing the same thing and the following season he was much slower and lost some of his shooting touch. He needs to get strong enough to hold his own but not bigger. Besides there's not as many bulky giants in the league anymore. I never thought Camby was gonna be able to play center but he has and done a fairly good job. If he can play Center Durant is just fine at Small forward!

[QUOTE=elz]agreed Except on Duncan
He may not be toned but I've heard tons of players talk about how strong Duncan is. Durant doesn't need to bulk up. I recall Penny Hardaway doing the same thing and the following season he was much slower and lost some of his shooting touch. He needs to get strong enough to hold his own but not bigger. Besides there's not as many bulky giants in the league anymore. I never thought Camby was gonna be able to play center but he has and done a fairly good job. If he can play Center Durant is just fine at Small forward![/QUOTE]

You bring up a good point. Jamal Crawford, Tyson Chandler, Allen Iverson, Marcus Camby, Luke Ridnour, Andrei Kirilenko, and Rashard Lewis are examples of the successful rail-thin NBA players. Durant shouldn't have a problem at all. Plus Ivesron plays SG, Camby plays C (they play bigger positions than their weight). Durant is only going to be a SF. Shouldn't be a big deal.

big deal, get over it.

[QUOTE=GOBB;896130]Whats more pathetic Durant not lifting 185 once or everyone making topics about how the Cavs can beat the Spurs? I think if you read the first 3 pages you'll start disliking everyone being attention whores because they want you to look up under thier skirt [I](read thier enlightening thoughts on how the cavs can beat the spurs)[/I] more than Durant not being able to bench 185.

And honestly? In Durants defense if he never lifted a weight or used the bench in his life or even sparringly. There is no way he can just sit on the bench and push 185 off his chest just because he is tall and can play basketball. Lifting weights isnt exactly easy....not many are born strong. Most begginners when they first start lifting off the bench cant even bench thier own weight. So if he left high school not ever using the weight room (if they had one) or he didnt really target lifting 185 or better when he did. Then expecting him in college to hit the gym and start pushing 185 off his chest 8 times is reaching. When you're avg a double double in college having a phenominal season...chances of you being FORCED to weight train isnt likely. So until we know how Texas bball program incorporates weight training and how important it is there....then we should give him the benefit of the doubt. Him not lifting 185 just means he needs to get stronger. So get over it. Nash probably is a weakling.[/QUOTE]

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[QUOTE=JtotheIzzo;896041]This is really pathetic, and a major cause for concern in my opinion.

The guy is going to be a serious defensive liability. How will he keep any four off the block? How will he keep any three off the block for that matter? He probably bailed himself out with his height in college, now I see him being terribly exposed. Add to that his slow feet and it is a really interesting dilemma.

The last player I remember not benching the minimum was Shaun Livingston and look how he has turned out. Injury after injury (not having stength leads to injury) and SL was point guard. Durant will have to guard bigger stronger players.

Maybe he is a natural scorer and a gamer with a high bball IQ, but so was Adam Morrison and look how he made the jump (yikes).

Did this news drop your opinion of Durant's star potential in your mind as it did mine? I could be overvaluing this result and Durant could end up doing just what he did in college (dominating), but we could also have the next Brad Sellers on our hands.[/QUOTE]

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[QUOTE=JtotheIzzo;896041]This is really pathetic, and a major cause for concern in my opinion.

The guy is going to be a serious defensive liability. How will he keep any four off the block? How will he keep any three off the block for that matter? He probably bailed himself out with his height in college, now I see him being terribly exposed. Add to that his slow feet and it is a really interesting dilemma.

The last player I remember not benching the minimum was Shaun Livingston and look how he has turned out. Injury after injury (not having stength leads to injury) and SL was point guard. Durant will have to guard bigger stronger players.

Maybe he is a natural scorer and a gamer with a high bball IQ, but so was Adam Morrison and look how he made the jump (yikes).

Did this news drop your opinion of Durant's star potential in your mind as it did mine? I could be overvaluing this result and Durant could end up doing just what he did in college (dominating), but we could also have the next Brad Sellers on our hands.[/QUOTE]

Fullcourt's original insidehoops account. one of the dumbest posts in Insidehoops History.

[QUOTE=JtotheIzzo;896041]This is really pathetic, and a major cause for concern in my opinion.

The guy is going to be a serious defensive liability. How will he keep any four off the block? How will he keep any three off the block for that matter? He probably bailed himself out with his height in college, now I see him being terribly exposed. Add to that his slow feet and it is a really interesting dilemma.

The last player I remember not benching the minimum was Shaun Livingston and look how he has turned out. Injury after injury (not having stength leads to injury) and SL was point guard. Durant will have to guard bigger stronger players.

Maybe he is a natural scorer and a gamer with a high bball IQ, but so was Adam Morrison and look how he made the jump (yikes).

Did this news drop your opinion of Durant's star potential in your mind as it did mine? I could be overvaluing this result and Durant could end up doing just what he did in college (dominating), but we could also have the next Brad Sellers on our hands.[/QUOTE]

Good thing Durant's chosen sport is basketball then, and not weightlifting.

[QUOTE=Lebron23;14510139]Fullcourt's original insidehoops account. one of the dumbest posts in Insidehoops History.[/QUOTE]

Wow, you're an idiot lol. I hadn't even heard of ISH back then. Try again, genius.

And Durant is still better than Brony.

I'm flattered. The Bronies are going back 15 years to try to find an "alt" for me. I must make them cry themselves to sleep at night, and I find it amusing.

Oden > KD

So what, Mr Fonzworthless cant do it either all that means are both are weak bitches :oldlol:


[QUOTE=Lebron23;14510139]Fullcourt's original insidehoops account. one of the dumbest posts in Insidehoops History.[/QUOTE]

I always knew he was low IQ and now it has been confirmed. Thank you Louie.

Lebron could do this in High School literally dozens of times, no wonder he’s seamlessly transitioned to center in his 19th year.

[QUOTE=ELITEpower23;14510471]So what, Mr Fonzworthless cant do it either all that means are both are weak bitches :oldlol:




I always knew he was low IQ and now it has been confirmed. Thank you Louie.[/QUOTE]

Another Brony who I made go into a meltdown.

Unlike you and your ilk, I don't need an alt to hide behind. Keep digging, cupcake.