2019 off-season- Bring back the same group for more of the same?

Ergin Ataman of Anadolu Efes spoke to the press after Efes took a 2-0 lead against Galatasaray in the Turkish League playoffs about

[QUOTE]Ernest Macia: Ricky Rubio:

Tony Jones: Villanova forward Eric Paschall will work out for the Utah Jazz on Tuesday, league sources tell The Athletic. Paschall is a projected first round pick. He won a national title in his junior season at Nova, and is a former AAU teammate of Jazz star guard Donovan Mitchell

Steve Popper: Frank Layden:

[QUOTE]David Aldridge: National Basketball Coaches

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[QUOTE]Utah has apparently been forthright about their upcoming offseason plans with Ricky Rubio.
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Have they or is this just Ricky still whining about the Conley rumors? :confusedshrug:

[QUOTE]Wasn't two 1sts. As even Tony Jones reported.
Just fascinating how most of the Jazz fan base can

[url]https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2839134-ricky-rubio-says-jazz-have-told-him-hes-not-a-priority-in-2019-nba-free-agency[/url]

[QUOTE]"When free agency comes, now that the season is over, I can start thinking and see where I want to go, where I can go," he told reporters. "But one thing I

Tony Jones: Utah guard Donovan Mitchell is expected to receive an invite to Team USA training camp in preparation for the World Cup, league sources tell The Athletic. @Marc Stein reported his name as a roster possibility this weekend

Ekpe Udoh is currently vacationing with family in Nigeria after spending a portion of last week in Istanbul, Turkey checking out EuroLeague action. When the Utah Jazz center returns from the break, he will have a big decision to make on whether or not to return to the NBA or go back overseas. The former EuroLeague champion and Final Four MVP currently has up to four to five multimillion-dollar offers from overseas powerhouses in Spain, Italy and Turkey on the table and will look to reach an agreement in the next week or so, according to a Deseret News source.

Chris Vivlamore: Greg Foster will coach Hawks

These six players will work out for the Jazz on Tuesday.

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Brendan Quinn: Michigan and Knicks assistant Howard Eisley are expected to complete a deal within the next 24 hours. He will finalize Juwan Howard

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[QUOTE]Udoh, 32, is an unrestricted free agent who averaged 2.5 points and 2.1 rebounds the past two seasons with the Jazz, but more importantly has earned respect inside the locker roomand with fans through his popular book club.
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To me it's a problem when a book club is considered more important than basketball on a basketball team. :wtf:

One thing that's clear is Favors needs to go :rant

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[QUOTE]Los Angeles Clippers guard Patrick Beverley would be a tier below the above-mentioned players, but if Utah spends a bunch of its money on someone at another position, signing a point guard with a smaller salary would make some sense.
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Beverley might be the best fit of anyone other than Conley

[QUOTE]If the Jazz don't sign a point guard, the other option for acquiring a new one is via trade. Utah tried to trade for the Memphis Grizzlies' Mike Conley in February before talks died. Those conversations could be revived, although without Rubio, sending Memphis matching salaries for Conley's big contract could be difficult, and would almost certainly include trading Derrick Favors.
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Cap space. The only problem is they lack the assets to get it done. Other teams will have more to offer now

[QUOTE]Dante Exum and Raul Neto are the other options, although Exum is injured and Neto isn't a great option to be a permanent starter.
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Neto is a better option than Exum or Rubio because he fits

NBA Capologist:

[QUOTE]A market is forming for Nets All-Star and restricted free agent D

For Utah going into next season, you guys have Ricky Rubio as a free agent and Derrick Favors on a non-guaranteed contract. What do you see for yourselves next season collectively? I think the biggest thing is just trusting what management does. Obviously, a lot of this stuff is out of my control personally. The biggest thing for us is to just get better and improve. Obviously, we didn

[QUOTE]Emiliano Carchia: Czech big man Ondrej Balvin joined Utah Jazz mini-camp that started today, a source told Sportando. Balvin spent the season with Gran Canaria

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Some good names on it. A bunch of Stars. Willie Reed(who could make sense), Thomas Robinson, Cameron Payne, Lucas Nogueira,

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Sounds like a possible fit. Just don't take him because of Mitchell. We've seen how the Hayward likes Rubio move has went

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need a 4

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Doubt he turns it down. Exum is injury prone. Jazz aren't winning an NBA title

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please no

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Exum :roll:

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That's how they got Rudy. Could package it with their own pick and move up or another asset for Conley

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[QUOTE]Kobi Simmons, guard, 6-5, 166 lb, 21 years old, 2 years of NBA experience

The former Arizona guard made history by agreeing to the NBA

[QUOTE]What does Brandon Clarke do well? Clarke is an elite athlete, and he uses that athleticism most effectively when protecting the rim on the defensive end. The numbers he posted at the NBA Combine in terms of his vertical jump and agility drills were not surprising to anyone who watched him play in college, and that explosiveness allows him to cover a lot of ground around the paint to contest shots and challenge any player at the rim despite not having great length. He

[QUOTE]Award-winning actor Samuel L. Jackson, comedian Tiffany Haddish and Basketball Hall of Famer Charles Barkley are among the presenters announced Thursday for the NBA Awards show on June 24. Other award presenters include WNBA star Candace Parker, supermodel Ashley Graham, comedians Amanda Seales and Hasan Minhaj, actor-producer Justin Hartley and actress Issa Rae.

[QUOTE]Emiliano Carchia: Alessandro Gentile is going to USA where he will have some workouts in Santa Barbara at P3. Gentile will also play the NBA Summer League (team still unknown yet). He was expected to play SL with Rockets last summer but he underwent surgery. After SL, Gentile will join Italy

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[QUOTE]That $68 million would be enough for two max salary slots. By making the trade, Brooklyn is signaling that it wants to create such space and thus move on from Russell. Teams are able to go over the salary cap to re-sign their own free agents, but "cap holds" for free agents make it difficult to sign free agents from other teams before re-signing their own. Russell's cap hold is $21 million, which would go away if he is renounced.
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It's saying they are giving themselves the flexibilty if someone wants to come there. Need to get two guys to come there. Only a handful of them available

[QUOTE]First, Harris has been linked to both the Jazz and Brooklyn, but could he sign with the Nets in that second max salary slot to play in his native New York with a player such as Irving? Second, if the dominoes fall and the Nets get just one max player, would they keep Russell (an All-Star last season) but decide to trade Dinwiddie if Irving is the max player they land?
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I prefer Dinwiddle anyway

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They should be thinking Mitchell/ONeale starting backcourt right now. Their biggest need is a modern 4. If they can get their guy there and still are able to get a 1 that fits next to Mitchell fine.

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Can't be number 45 on the USA team :facepalm

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[QUOTE]If the Jazz don

Farmington City has a new high school, miles of hiking and biking trails, a booming population and a popular shopping mall

Zach Braziller: Former Virginia guard Ty Jerome of New Rochelle has worked out for Pacers, Jazz, Celtics, Hornets and today the Magic, I

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[QUOTE]Yeah, that’s basically it, except that Favors’ guarantee date makes it so that the Jazz will essentially know if they’re going to need that cap space for a free agent before they have to make a final decision on Favors. So if no free agent has committed by then, I think it’s basically a no-brainer to hang onto Favors at the $17.7M. If July 6 arrives and they haven’t made a major signing and Favors is still on the team, I think it means that they’re working on a trade for someone like Conley.
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He needs to go regardless. Need guys that fit period and I don't mean off the court

[QUOTE]They look for different kinds of information and base decisions on a balanced view. For example, they are willing to invest in analytics programs that help challenge their thinking, but they don’t over-rely on them and instead make decisions based on a rich tapestry of insights from basketball people, data points, old-fashioned scouting and even some healthy gut work. (Remember, Gobert didn’t statistically rate as a top prospect, but won the Jazz over (and secured the endorsement of former coach Jerry Sloan) by displaying a pathologically competitive nature in his interview.)
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Rudy was considered a late first round pick and that's where he was picked. Let's not try to say they did something incredible there

[QUOTE]Warren is under contract, so the Jazz would have to offer assets that the rebuilding Suns would value. Those are specifically the assets Utah is light on at this stage, although I suppose a package highlighted by a 1st round pick might get them interested if they add a scorer in free agency. That said, I’m not a big Warren guy. He’s not someone who takes the Jazz to the next level — which sounds crazy since he has average 18-plus for two straight seasons, but he rates as a replacement-level player in several advanced stats. He’s also not a very efficient scorer with the ball in his hands.
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Need to think of guys that fit first. Next level next. With guys that fit the Jazz go to a level they haven't been at since the end of Hayward's last season anyway

[QUOTE]Dwyane Wade had a nice year-three leap in both counting stats and advanced metrics, and he wound up with a ring and a Finals MVP that season. Allen Iverson saw a major rise in scoring in his third season, but his efficiency got worse, and also that was a lockout season so the circumstances were atypical. Year three was a huge leap for Russell Westbrook, as he crossed the 20-ppg threshold in his first All-Star season. Michael Jordan went supernova in year three (37 ppg!!), but he’s not the best comp for Mitchell. James Harden and Clyde Drexler both got modestly better in year three, although both were still complementary stars at that stage in their career. (Side note: there isn’t a lot of precedent for someone at Mitchell’s age being the main guy on a good team.)
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Mitchell isn't the main guy :rolleyes:

[QUOTE]What’s the more likely scenario:
-Jazz waive Favors and sign a big money FA (Harris, Kemba, Russell, etc.)
-Jazz waive Favors and sign 2+ mid-money FAs (Darren Collison, Al-Farouq Aminu, Danny Green, etc.)
-Jazz keep Favors and sign 1+ mid/low-money FAs (Collison, Pat Beverley, Thabo Sefolosha, etc.)

@shumekot

Everything I’ve heard is that their plan is to add a big money FA, either by waiving Favors or by offloading some salary elsewhere. But it all depends on if any of those guys say yes to them. That’s not really an answer to your question, but that’s just the reality. The Jazz are going to try to tell their story to some star-level players, and then they’ll work their way down the list.[/QUOTE]

Lindsey already said Favors is part of the solution not the problem. He likely isn't going anywhere unfortunately

Get some guys that fit. Not the next guy down the list

[QUOTE]Short version: Jazz will be able to keep their talent, but the salary commitments that will kick in once Mitchell gets his extension are exactly why they are trying to strike now to add an impact player.
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Believe it when I see it. Should have been trying the past 4 years. Hayward would have stayed. Rudy would stay. Jazz might have won a title. As we've seen the Warriors are beatable. You strike when the iron is hot not wait around hoping a title falls in your lap miraculously

[QUOTE]There’s a good chance that something like a third to a half of the rotation is made up of new players next year. Expect Mitchell, Gobert and Ingles back for sure. O’Neale too, and I get the sense they won’t include Exum in a deal unless they absolutely have to. Niang is unlikely to move because they like him and he’s a low-cost guy with team control for two more years. Outside of that, I don’t feel comfortable guaranteeing anything. Crowder? Probably back, but who knows. Favors? 50-50. Rubio? Probably not. Korver? We’ll see. This could be a summer that defines Jazz basketball for the next decade.
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I doubt much will change. It's Utah. When has it? After Stockton retired and? Rubio sounds gone. Thabo and Udoh should be if they are smart. Other than that? Who is taking Exum? Memphis GM was fired. Hard to believe they actually wanted him! Favors is more than 50 50. Sounds more like 95 5. It will be just like every off season ever. A lot of hope and not much to get excited about

[QUOTE]Dwayne Dedmon gets a lot of chatter from Jazz fans because he can both block and make shots, but I think he’ll be out of Utah’s price range after they use up their cap space. In all likelihood, they’ll have to find Gobert a backup using the minimum salary exception, which means they’re looking at guys like Daniel Theis, Salah Mejri, Ivan Rabb, Amir Johnson or Thomas Bryant… in other words: Gobert had better stay healthy.
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Even if Favors is still his backup Rudy has to stay healthy. They suck without him but it's all about Mitchell, Snyder and Lindsey! :roll:

[QUOTE]Neto is a solid third point guard whose salary ($2.15M non-guaranteed) matches his role. I think he’ll be back unless they need to clear a little bit of extra room by waiving him. Even then, I think he would be open to re-signing at the minimum if another team doesn’t claim him off waivers first.
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Neto would be stupid to come back if he has a choice

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[QUOTE]The Utah Jazz will likely be on the market for a new backup center this offseason. Former Salt Lake City Stars standout Willie Reed could be an option.
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Considering he was out of the league last year and has been more of a 3rd center in his career I would hope not.

[QUOTE]Let

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[QUOTE]Gafford is a 6-11 big man that averaged 17 points, 8.7 rebounds and two blocks in his sophomore season at Arkansas. He