Eric Walden: Several Jazz players said the team got the shots it wanted and just missed. Rudy Gobert disagreed:
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Eric Walden: Several Jazz players said the team got the shots it wanted and just missed. Rudy Gobert disagreed:
[url]https://www.ksl.com/article/46676509/utah-jazz-cant-keep-wolves-at-bay-fall-at-home-for-1st-time-this-season[/url]
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[url]https://www.deseret.com/2019/11/18/20969930/utah-jazz-drop-second-straight-lose-112-102-to-minnesota-timberwolves[/url]
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[QUOTE]Donovan Mitchell had probably his worst shooting night of the season going 5/23 from the field. The other starters had okay nights but no one was able to overcome that difficult of a night from their best offensive player.
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maybe he's not their best offensive player? Maybe that is the problem?
[QUOTE]But this shouldn
[url]https://thejnotes.com/2019/11/19/utah-jazz-dont-like-rest-according-to-stats/[/url]
Interesting. I thought it would be the opposite. Seems like when they have time to practice the make some adjustments and play better
[url]https://hoopshabit.com/2019/11/18/utah-jazz-joe-ingles-answer-sixth-man/[/url]
[QUOTE]When you think of a sixth man, the first thing that comes to mind is a spark plug that can come in, feast on an opponent
Andrew Bogut has left the door open for another stint in the NBA later this season, but the Sydney Kings star won
[url]https://www.slcdunk.com/the-downbeat-latest-jazz-news/2019/11/19/20972872/utah-jazz-patience-slow-start-bad-offense-minnesota-timberwolves-mike-conley-rudy-gobert[/url]
[QUOTE]At this point last season, Utah was only 10 days away from a roster shakeup due to a slow start.
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absolutely no reason Kidd should still be on the team right now! :rant
[QUOTE]Meanwhile Rudy Gobert defended 31 shots in the game, whoever he was guarding in that possession shot 38.7%. Rudy Gobert defended as many shots as Green, Bogdanovic, and O
[url]https://thejnotes.com/2019/11/20/power-rankings-roundup-utah-jazz-sliding/[/url]
[QUOTE]Even though the Utah Jazz haven
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[QUOTE]But aside from Noah, another potential option surfaced that seems to have an interest and willingness in filling that exact role for the Jazz. The man I speak of is former Jazz fan favorite Trevor Booker.
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Might be better than Green but why not get an actually center instead? :wtf:
[QUOTE]Now, I
[url]https://www.deseret.com/2019/11/20/20974136/utah-jazz-must-figure-out-a-way-to-stop-towns-3-point-shooting-in-wednesday-game-nba[/url]
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[url]https://www.deseret.com/2019/11/20/20974077/utah-jazz-to-wear-popular-city-jerseys-for-final-time-this-season[/url]
won't miss them! :cheers:
[QUOTE]Favors absence is hurting us at the defensive end (however, we expected this). Therefore, the team
[url]https://www.slcdunk.com/the-downbeat-latest-jazz-news/2019/11/20/20974128/utah-jazz-offense-improve-struggles-schedule-road-trip-travel-scoring[/url]
[QUOTE]On a scale of 1-10, my worry meter is probably still only a 1 or 2. I
[QUOTE]Pau Gasol: As of today, I will no longer be a member of the @TrailBlazers player roster, so I can focus all my energy on my rehabilitation. 📹💪🏼🙏🏼[/QUOTE]
He could be a nice pick up later in the year
Dane Moore: Game time decisions for Andrew Wiggins and Josh Okogie tonight.
[url]https://www.sltrib.com/sports/2019/11/21/jazz-wolves-analysis-by/[/url]
[QUOTE]I think most people still think of Gobert as
[url]https://www.lockedonjazz.net/jazz/emptying-the-noggin-revamped-game-plan-and-shot-making-leads-to-jazz-win-in-minnesota/[/url]
[QUOTE]Home and Home off a loss with Quin Snyder as your head coach and the competitiveness of Rudy Gobert and Donovan Mitchell and I like the Jazz chances.
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1 of 3 anyway. Take away Rudy and I'm still not sure the Jazz don't suck
[QUOTE]Bojan Bogdanovic had a monster night. He had 30 points on 6 of 11 from three point shooting. Love the 11 attempts. He was also +38 on the night. He also went to the free throw line 7 times.
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would love even more attempts when he's got it going and Mitchell doesn't
[QUOTE]Not sure the Jazz can play Dante Exum and Emmanuel Mudiay at the same time
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Gee ya think? I'm not sure Exum can play at all :rant
[QUOTE]Mike Conley had 8 assists and 0 turnovers. He kept himself out of the problem areas on the floor. He also added 16 points. He had 5 assists in the 4th quarter and he added a huge walk up three. He also
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[QUOTE]In the end, this was a great redemption game. There were some poor stretches and the Jazz still have some things to work out, but Snyder is trying new things. Dante Exum is back on the floor now1 and Gobert is still a defensive powerhouse, partially responsible for holding Karl-Anthony Towns to just 14 points in Minnesota. The Jazz will be fine and eventually they will be great, if the fan base can wait just a little bit longer.
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mostly responsible :wtf:
Looks like Goss did a bit better tonite with the Stars. Probably should have kept him stashed though and signed a proven vet
Gobert proving again he's the MVP of the side. The runs teams are going on without his defensive presence are killing the side at the moment.
Ingles poor shooting needs to turn around too. He's not looking like the same Joe and a 30% rate on 3's isn't gonna cut it. Still got the playmaking ability going, but his shot is off ATM. Things like Ingles/O'Neale combing for 6-8 points a game is not great production ATM.
[QUOTE=El Kabong]Gobert proving again he's the MVP of the side. The runs teams are going on without his defensive presence are killing the side at the moment.
Ingles poor shooting needs to turn around too. He's not looking like the same Joe and a 30% rate on 3's isn't gonna cut it. Still got the playmaking ability going, but his shot is off ATM. Things like Ingles/O'Neale combing for 6-8 points a game is not great production ATM.[/QUOTE]
They certainly need more from them. Gobert is playing too many minutes.
With just over 3 minutes to play, Donovan Mitchell crossed up Minnesota forward Robert Covington, sending him falling to the ground, as the Utah Jazz guard pulled up for a clutch stepback-3. On the box score, the basket was unassisted. But Mitchell credited a fan sitting on the front row at Target Center for helping set up the bucket.
[url]https://www.deseret.com/2019/11/20/20974140/motivated-rudy-gobert-outplays-karl-anthony-towns-as-jazz-pick-up-road-victory-over-minnesota[/url]
[QUOTE]While his numbers didn
[QUOTE]Rudy is worth a Supermax
I
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[QUOTE]I don
[url]https://thejnotes.com/2019/11/21/utah-jazz-get-much-needed-win-bench-continues-problem/[/url]
[QUOTE]Bojan Bogdanovic, who has been Utah’s most consistent force, was once again extraordinary, finishing with 30 points on 9-of-18 shooting from the field and 6-of-11 from deep. Rudy Gobert was solid with 12 points and 15 rebounds while holding Karl-Anthony Towns to just 14 points. Donovan Mitchell once again struggled with efficiency, going just 9-of-24 from the field for his 26 points, but his 5-of-10 three-point shooting was reassuring.
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Rudy isn't their most consistent force after almost 5 years of this? :roll:
[QUOTE]Tony Jones
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Bogey is tough, man...big and skilled offensively, gets his off the dribble, can create or burn you in catch and shoot....he’s just difficult to guard...the jazz need to use him even more than they are already doing
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Mitchell take a back seat? Right! :lol
[QUOTE]Meanwhile, Dante Exum continued to look rusty as he went 0-of-1 in his seven minutes of play which produced a plus/minus of minus-16. Georges Niang was ineffective and Jeff Green was streaky. In short, once again when reserves were depended on, they failed to rise to the occasion.
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how can you tell Exum looks rusty? Looks like the same crappy player he's always been to me Imagine what that 9 million a year could do to to the bench:rant
[QUOTE]After all, they are relying on two guys on minimum contracts in Jeff Green and Emmanuel Mudiay to step up and play significant roles. Beyond those two, there’s Dante Exum who has a long way to go to get comfortable once again post-injury, Joe Ingles, who has been off all year long, and then a slew of inconsistent or unproven guys that round out the bench.
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Green and Mudiay have both shown the ability to put points up off the bench in the past. 26 or something a game between them last year. Exum has never proven anything other than he sucks. Joe's play is worrisome as is Niang's actually. The fact that Kidd is still on the team is a joke though
[QUOTE]So unless the Jazz decide to dip into the shallow free agent market or pull off an unbelievable trade, I’m not so sure what they’re going to do other than hope that the current guys can continue to improve and assimilate, and that Ed Davis can return quickly and leave a dramatic mark.
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they have COTY and the Wizard and there is nothing they can do? :rolleyes:
[QUOTE]Gasol
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Anthony Slater: Warriors listing Draymond Green as questionable for tomorrow
Now, as Golden State heads to Utah for the final game of its road trip, the Dubs have their fingers crossed that Green will be able to play against the Jazz on Friday.
Tony Jones: New Orleans Pelicans power forward Derrick Favors will not make the trip to Salt Lake City and will NOT play against the Utah Jazz on Saturday night, league sources tell The Athletic. Favors has been out due to back spasms
[url]https://www.deseret.com/2019/11/21/20975485/jazz-are-not-getting-as-much-production-from-their-bench-as-in-the-past-nba[/url]
[QUOTE]After fielding one of the deepest teams in the NBA over the past couple of seasons, the Jazz bench has become thin this year and a bit of a liability, forcing the Jazz coach to play his main guys longer minutes and having fewer options to turn to when the starters are struggling.
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The only years they've been deep probably in their history was the couple non tanking ones with Corbin. Big reason they were in the playoff hunt at all with those teams
[QUOTE]Last year three more Jazz players averaged more than 20 minutes per game
[QUOTE]Juwan Morgan signed and Kidd released
Morgan was signed to multi year deal, probably similar to Royce. He was the best player on the Stars, and can play several roles.
Doubt we see him much this year but the Jazz liked him enough to spend more money. He was really fun to watch in Summer League, as he just worked harder than everyone else. He seemed really nervous when I watched him, and is doing much better in the G League
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Multi year deal means this year is probably guaranteed. I thought he looked good in fall camp and with the Stars. He might play instead of Green at the 4 I'm guessing? So their only flexibility now is cutting Niang or packaging their deadweight in a trade? Need to at least have flexibility for buyouts:wtf:
[QUOTE]Not sure how signing a 6'8" guy is going to help our backup C problem.
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center is where they had him in preseason and with the Stars, Must be long? He's got a solid build
[QUOTE]I posted earlier about how much we obviously miss Ed Davis, wanted to dive into the rebounding numbers a bit mroe
Bench rebounding with Ed:
1: OKC – 16, UTA – 15
2: LAL – 15, UTA – 16
3: SAC – 16, UTA – 25
4: PHX – 20, UTA – 18
5: LAC – 18, UTA – 15
6: SAC – 14, UTA – 3 (Ed played 7:46 before injury)
Bench rebounding without Ed:
1: LAC – 27, UTA – 11
2: PHI – 10, UTA – 13
3: MIL – 17, UTA – 15
4: GSW – 16, UTA – 14
5: BRK – 21, UTA – 16
6: MEM – 15, UTA – 6
7: MIN – 22, UTA – 13
8: MIN – 21, UTA – 13
So.. yeah. Those numbers tell a bit of a story. Rebounding isn’t even the only area where Ed >>> Tony/Jeff. I don’t think anyone needs to wonder "what’s up with our bench".
Posted by Alex Dye on Nov 21, 2019 | 3:43 PM[/QUOTE]
He gets his hand on almost every board so not surprising
[QUOTE]This is why Davis needed to be much higher than Green in our preseason list
We don’t have a replacement for him. The plan is pretty much for Davis and Gobert to be healthy all the time.
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which was ridiculous for no other reason than just so Bradley could play in the Gleague. I'm guessing Bradley might get some run with the Stars now that they signed Morgan but they both need to be down there
[QUOTE]No where near a capable #3 Center, (Udoh wasn’t either) and no plans to get one!
Bradley hasn’t got it but they still hope.
Dumb contracts like Exum 9m for an unproven player, always thought it was stupid. Joe I. extension, why?
It seem to me the FO/Organization are too loyal to the detriment of the "Contention Potential".
Look at how the Patriots use and reload their players, even some highly effective ones are let go to pick up new talent.
I think the Jazz hold on AND over pay players too often. (Exum, Favors, Ingles were/are all overpays IMO)
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Udoh certainly was and Bradley is still the youngest guy on the team. Exum getting paid when he'd done nothing was a joke. Joe's extension after an off year isn't looking good right now. But typical Jazz moves all the way around. Been doing it for 4 decades now
[QUOTE]Exum on the other hand has been a mistake and there is no other way to look at it. If they wanted to re-sign him when they did, they could have offered him half of what they did and still he would have signed, he wasn’t going anywhere else and if he did, well so be it. That was not a good decision. Hopefully he comes good at some point but it’s hard to argue, even if he does, that it was a good decision and represented value. Unless by some miracle he improves massively and becomes like a critical 6th man on a Jazz championship team and hits a game/series defining shot or something, which is absolute fantasy land at this point.
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Exum shouldn't have gotten more than 1 guaranteed year. Would have come off the books with everyone else this past summer. Especially when I didn't get the impression that any other team was bidding for his services. The Jazz bid against themselves for him and Favors it seemed?
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[QUOTE]Before the start of this season, something that many people wondered regarding the Utah Jazz was how Quin Snyder was going to utilize his personnel. Who was he going to start? Who
Logan Murdock: Draymond Green (heel) is out vs Utah tonight
Tony Jones: Utah Jazz point guard Mike Conley has switched agents and joined CAA
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[QUOTE]This play right here shows why Gobert is so dominant and maybe a little why Mike Conley is making the Jazz defense even better overall. Conley does a good job staying in front of the man he
[url]https://www.slcdunk.com/2019/11/22/20977347/utah-jazz-golden-state-warriors-preview-bojan-bogdanovic-bench-donovan-mitchell-rudy-gobert[/url]
[QUOTE]Speaking of Alec Burks, at least the former Jazz fan favorite is getting a run as the starting shooting guard, filling up the box score with 14.5 points, 4.2 rebounds, and 2.5 assists per game. After being traded for Kyle Korver, Burks has bounced around the league from Cleveland to Sacramento to signing with the Thunder this offseason, only to take back his commitment after the Paul George trade and sign for the vet minimum with Golden State.
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Imagine Burks, Thabo, Udoh and Neto on the bench! :rant
[QUOTE]As Taylor covered in an excellent downbeat yesterday, there
[url]https://thejnotes.com/2019/11/22/utah-jazz-compare-purple-predecessors/2/[/url]
[QUOTE]NBA teams are always built around a core of a star player or two, and sometimes the head coach. The Utah Jazz are no different, having built around center Rudy Gobert ever since he broke out during his sophomore campaign.
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They haven't really built around him until this year though
[QUOTE]When both Malone and Gobert started to develop into stars, their respective teams started winning more games as a result. Malone
[url]https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/256233/Two-Way-Contracts-Have-Depleted-Available-G-League-Player-Pool[/url]
[QUOTE]The NBA's addition of two-way contracts has had a number of unintended consequences, perhaps most notably the decreased number of viable players available for teams to sign during the season.
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shouldn't need to sign as many guys since you have more available on your roster though
[QUOTE]"One of the reasons why there's not that many options is even if they wanted to go get a young player, if they don't have him on their roster, there's only a handful of guys that aren't on Two-Way contracts that are NBA-ready, according to people I've talked to. I understand the desperation," added Windhorst.
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there are lost of proven vets available