NFL Season 2025

[QUOTE=1987_Lakers;15032031]It's not like Henry was some bum before he signed with the Ravens, he signed a 16 million deal because he hit 30, the age where most running backs fall off a cliff. Henry just happens to take care of his body in ways other players don't, that is documented. I feel Lamar has made strides as a passer as he has aged, but I still wouldn't call it top tier. To me he is below Mahomes, Burrow, & Allen as an overall player, but I have him at the #4 spot which is no insult. Herbert might have a breakout year putting him ahead of Lamar this season.[/QUOTE]

Henry's yards per carry the THREE years prior to joining the Ravens

4.3
4.4
4.3

Comes to the Ravens and has a career high BY FAR of 5.9 ypc and very well may break that this year. Henry is turning 32 in a few months, this trajectory leads back to one thing - being in the same backfield as Lamar Jackson.

Nobody gets significantly more efficient by themselves at age 30-32 with all the milage and carries he had prior to age 30.

[QUOTE=Carbine;15032037]Henry's yards per carry the THREE years prior to joining the Ravens

4.3
4.4
4.3

Comes to the Ravens and has a career high BY FAR of 5.9 ypc and very well may break that this year. Henry is turning 32 in a few months, this trajectory leads back to one thing - being in the same backfield as Lamar Jackson.

Nobody gets significantly more efficient by themselves at age 30-32 with all the milage and carries he had prior to age 30.[/QUOTE]

Titans had the worst O-Line in the NFL in Henry’s last years there. Not nearly as bad as the yards per carry suggest.

Comparing the bottom feeding titans to the juggernaut Ravens is a new thing ive never heard.

Who knew Derrick Henry was an all time great running back?

Apparently not everybody.

Titans had a beast oline in Henrys peak and here he is at his age 31 season averaging a half yard more than he ever did in his career prior and right now he's averaging what, 10 yards a carry? 9? For last night's game

Lamar Jackson is the single biggest reason for this. Henry would tell you that himself

The more I see of Russell Wilson playing outside of Seattle the more I feel like Vinny Testaverde and Randall Cunningham deserve Hall of Fame inductions over him.

[QUOTE=tpols;15032056]Comparing the bottom feeding titans to the juggernaut Ravens is a new thing ive never heard.

Who knew Derrick Henry was an all time great running back?

Apparently not everybody.[/QUOTE]

Once again another cringe post. Imagine telling someone to go read a book. And they follow that up with poor comprehension skills? Maybe sit this one out.

[QUOTE=1987_Lakers;15032045]Titans had the worst O-Line in the NFL in Henry’s last years there. Not nearly as bad as the yards per carry suggest.[/QUOTE]

You’re trying hard not to give credit to Lamar Jacksons impact on Henry rushing as a Raven. Nasty work.

[QUOTE=GOBB;15032074]Once again another cringe post. Imagine telling someone to go read a book. And they follow that up with poor comprehension skills? Maybe sit this one out.[/QUOTE]

What made what tpols said sound so ridiculous? Is Henry not one of the best pure runners we've ever seen?

[QUOTE=j3lademaster;15032079]What made what tpols said sound so ridiculous? Is Henry not one of the best pure runners we've ever seen?[/QUOTE]

Because no one is discrediting or even implying Derrick Henry is not. It’s about Lamar Jackson impact on the running game in Baltimore. And how Derrick Henry ypc was 5.9 at age 30 last season and last night 9.4 at age 31. I guess Derrick Henry is feeling good nowadays and he’s running behind a good OL. That’s all…

[QUOTE=GOBB;15032080]Because no one is discrediting or even implying Derrick Henry is not. It’s about Lamar Jackson impact on the running game in Baltimore. And how Derrick Henry ypc was 5.9 at age 30 last season and last night 9.4 at age 31. I guess Derrick Henry is feeling good nowadays and he’s running behind a good OL. That’s all…[/QUOTE]

I just flipped to the previous page and saw that the other guy started the whole "go read a book" thing so I take back my post.

[QUOTE=Carbine;15032037]Henry's yards per carry the THREE years prior to joining the Ravens

4.3
4.4
4.3

Comes to the Ravens and has a career high BY FAR of 5.9 ypc and very well may break that this year. Henry is turning 32 in a few months, this trajectory leads back to one thing - being in the same backfield as Lamar Jackson.

Nobody gets significantly more efficient by themselves at age 30-32 with all the milage and carries he had prior to age 30.[/QUOTE]

Nobody is Derrick Henry. He’s a one off, a true outlier.

He gets a plus from playing in a much better offense, but he’s not your average 30+ year old RB. Jackson of course had some play in this but slow your roll. You are overstating things a lot.

The NFL running back position does not work this way. Ever.

Guys don't magically get better after 30 years old having the amount of wear and tear he has had leading up to 30 years old.

If you want to chalk it up to Henry becoming magically BETTER after 30 with his track record of carries, go for it.

I'm going to look at this logically and say NO, running backs do not get better individually as they age. He may as well be a 40 year old NBA player right now.

I know reading comprehension is a weak part of most people here so I want to make sure you understand I am not saying Lamar makes Henry. Anyone call tell Henry is still an excellent back and when he gets a lane he makes the most of it. The point is he gets more lanes to run through because of Lamar and the amount of defensive attention he demands in the run game.

It's not different than your hero and Idol Steph Curry. His gravity helps others. Lamar has gravity in the run game.

Watching the game now. Ravens are up 15 with the ball with 9 minutes left. How TF did they lose lol?

Ravens do have a knack for snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.

[QUOTE=Carbine;15032093]The NFL running back position does not work this way. Ever.

Guys don't magically get better after 30 years old having the amount of wear and tear he has had leading up to 30 years old.

If you want to chalk it up to Henry becoming magically BETTER after 30 with his track record of carries, go for it.

I'm going to look at this logically and say NO, running backs do not get better individually as they age. He may as well be a 40 year old NBA player right now.

I know reading comprehension is a weak part of most people here so I want to make sure you understand I am not saying Lamar makes Henry. Anyone call tell Henry is still an excellent back and when he gets a lane he makes the most of it. The point is he gets more lanes to run through because of Lamar and the amount of defensive attention he demands in the run game.

It's not different than your hero and Idol Steph Curry. His gravity helps others. Lamar has gravity in the run game.[/QUOTE]

List a few running backs that compare to Derrick Henry in size and style

lol

[QUOTE=Carbine;15032093]The NFL running back position does not work this way. Ever.

Guys don't magically get better after 30 years old having the amount of wear and tear he has had leading up to 30 years old.

If you want to chalk it up to Henry becoming magically BETTER after 30 with his track record of carries, go for it.

I'm going to look at this logically and say NO, running backs do not get better individually as they age. He may as well be a 40 year old NBA player right now.

I know reading comprehension is a weak part of most people here so I want to make sure you understand I am not saying Lamar makes Henry. Anyone call tell Henry is still an excellent back and when he gets a lane he makes the most of it. The point is he gets more lanes to run through because of Lamar and the amount of defensive attention he demands in the run game.

It's not different than your hero and Idol Steph Curry. His gravity helps others. Lamar has gravity in the run game.[/QUOTE]
He didn't quite have the wear and tear of Henry, but Tiki Barber legitimately peaked in his early 30's and scrapped his fumbling problem.

[QUOTE=Carbine;15032061]Titans had a beast oline in Henrys peak and here he is at his age 31 season averaging a half yard more than he ever did in his career prior and right now he's averaging what, 10 yards a carry? 9? For last night's game

Lamar Jackson is the single biggest reason for this. Henry would tell you that himself[/QUOTE]
You act is if Henry didn’t have a 2,000 yard season on over 5 yards per carry when he was on the Titans

Titans had arguably the worst O-line in 2023, despite that Henry still rushed for over 1,000 yards and had double digit touchdowns. Playing with Lamar and a better O-line makes it easier for him, but Henry isn’t just some regular RB. :lol

The way he takes care of himself with his diet and workouts is pretty known, and he didn’t really become a starter in this league until his 3rd year when he was already 24. He has less wear compared to other RBs his age.

[QUOTE=SouBeachTalents;15032097]He didn't quite have the wear and tear of Henry, but Tiki Barber legitimately peaked in his early 30's and scrapped his fumbling problem.[/QUOTE]

Tiki had 600 carries entering his age 27 season. Henry had more than that in two years......

[QUOTE=j3lademaster;15032087]I just flipped to the previous page and saw that the other guy started the whole "go read a book" thing so I take back my post.[/QUOTE]

That was an inside joke.

GOBB apparently likes to read books, which he admitted and we have it on file.

Nobody knew this prior, but it does give an insight to his psyche. Hes more sophisticated than any of us previously thought.

[QUOTE=1987_Lakers;15032098]You act is if Henry didn’t have a 2,000 yard season on over 5 yards per carry when he was on the Titans

Titans had arguably the worst O-line in 2023, despite that Henry still rushed for over 1,000 yards and had double digit touchdowns. Playing with Lamar and a better O-line makes it easier for him, but Henry isn’t just some regular RB. :lol

The way he takes care of himself with his diet and workouts is pretty known, and he didn’t really become a starter in this league until his 3rd year when he was already 24. He has less wear compared to other RBs his age.[/QUOTE]

Less wear compared to others his age?

What?

He has 500 more carries than anyone in the league currently for their careers. His milage is above and beyond.

[QUOTE=Carbine;15032105]Less wear compared to others his age?

What?

He has 500 more carries than anyone in the league currently for their careers. His milage is above and beyond.[/QUOTE]

Zeke Elliot for example is around the same age as Henry, he had nearly 500 more carries than Henry in their first 6 years. And as Zeke got older he would come into camp out of shape at times, didn't take care of his body the same way Henry did.

Zeke was done being elite by his age 25 season

Considering Lamar had a career year last season throwing for over 4100yds... you could easily make the argument that Derrick Henry is the reason for that happening and the threat he brings on offense. Much more open field for the WR to work with, easier for Lamar to find there open man

[QUOTE=Carbine;15032114]Zeke was done being elite by his age 25 season[/QUOTE]
Henry = Elliott. They are built different.


[QUOTE=warriorfan;15032095]List a few running backs that compare to Derrick Henry in size and style

lol[/QUOTE]

Btw still waiting on that list lol

[video=youtube;p8dOdUForpQ]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8dOdUForpQ[/video]

Game's boring as hell...

[QUOTE=warriorfan;15032125]Henry = Elliott. They are built different.




Btw still waiting on that list lol[/QUOTE]

mean to say henry does not equal elliot

main point is while it’s true most running backs fade hard in late 20’s, henry is an outlier so you can’t compare him to other guys

[QUOTE=Carbine;15032093]Guys don't magically get better after 30 years old having the amount of wear and tear he has had leading up to 30 years old.[/QUOTE]

It's very rare, Barber has been discussed.

Walter Payton was probably the best RB in the league from ages 30-32. Holmes had 27 TDs at age 30 and looked great at age 31 up until he got injured mid-season. Corey Dillion probably had his best season at age 30 with the Patriots. John Riggins had his best season at age 34, with rushing 24 TDs. Curtis Martin had his best season at age 31 when he rushed 1700 yards.

Caleb Williams 💅

Any Jets fans here? Any thoughts on Rodgers coming back and torching us??

[QUOTE=Patrick Chewing;15032152]Any Jets fans here? Any thoughts on Rodgers coming back and torching us??[/QUOTE]



KC, Bills, Ravens..... all contenders.

but after that... I think Rodgers comes in at having the 4th best chance to get to the SB in the AFC, about even with Cincy... don't sleep on Rodgers this year.

Chargers might be a force....

I really need to go back and watch the Miami/Colts game to see what the hell happened there... Is Miami a garbage team now, or are the Colts improving?

I don't have any faith in Jacksonville... but it's still possible they could pull off a surprise. Same could be said for Denver & Houston.



week 1 Doomsday power rankings:

Tier 1: KC, Bills, Balt
Tier 2: Pitt, LAC, Cincy
Tier 3: Jax, Den, Hou
Tier 4: everyone else

[video=youtube;v3VSefIXvxs]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v3VSefIXvxs[/video]

[QUOTE=Doomsday Dallas;15032167][video=youtube;v3VSefIXvxs]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v3VSefIXvxs[/video][/QUOTE]

AI getting crazy.

Pretty soon we won't be able to distinguish real videos from AI created ones, so we ain't even gonna believe real shit online anymore. Aliens finally reveal themselves...AI!!!

Ravens have blown 17 double digit leads with Harbaugh as a coach, most in the league since 1991.

[QUOTE] “We don't win this game unless J.J. plays the way he did in the second half,” O'Connell said. “Most importantly, he kept the belief of this football team behind him, and now, we know it's possible. You hope to not be in these circumstances very often. But this team's made of the right stuff.”[/QUOTE]

Hahaha Man watch out

[QUOTE=tontoz;15032184]Ravens have blown 17 double digit leads with Harbaugh as a coach, most in the league since 1991.[/QUOTE]

The Ravens style has always been to run you down. They cant throw. So that shows up in the 4Q.

[QUOTE=tpols;15032186]The Racens style has always been to run you down. They cant throw. So that shows up in the 4Q.

Its like how Kobe is > Lebron.[/QUOTE]

i don't think that's the issue. Lamar has a ton of passing yards and when you are playing from ahead you want to run the ball anyway.

I think some of it is situational awareness. If you look at their last possession all they needed was one first down and the game was over. They run a sweep to Flowers instead of going to Lamar/Henry who have dominated all game. Then they complete a pass on 3rd down but it was well short of a first down. That is low IQ.

[QUOTE=TheMan;15032175]Pretty soon we won't be able to distinguish real videos from AI created ones, so we ain't even gonna believe real shit online anymore. Aliens finally reveal themselves...AI!!![/QUOTE]

This is all a simulation of photons... but yea. Its gonna be super easy to frame people with AI.

[QUOTE=tontoz;15032187]i don't think that's the issue. Lamar has a ton of passing yards and when you are playing from ahead you want to run the ball anyway.

I think some of it is situational awareness. If you look at their last possession all they needed was one first down and the game was over. They run a sweep to Flowers instead of going to Lamar/Henry who have dominated all game. Then they complete a pass on 3rd down but it was well short of a first down. That is low IQ.[/QUOTE]

Its definitely the issue bro.

Lamar is a wild scrambler and is average at best throwing the ball compared to elite passing QBs. That lack of fine motor control passing the ball has bit him in the ass a bunch in his career. Especially in the playoffs where it matters most.

[QUOTE=tontoz;15032187]i don't think that's the issue. Lamar has a ton of passing yards and when you are playing from ahead you want to run the ball anyway.

I think some of it is situational awareness. If you look at their last possession all they needed was one first down and the game was over. They run a sweep to Flowers instead of going to Lamar/Henry who have dominated all game. Then they complete a pass on 3rd down but it was well short of a first down. That is low IQ.[/QUOTE]

Someone who actually watched the game and makes sense. Guys just be throwing shyt against the wall in here hoping it sticks.

#blameLamar