Rondon is going to eat the Lakers alive on christmas day. he has been beasting.
Phil's gonna try to put Kobe on him again :oldlol:
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Rondon is going to eat the Lakers alive on christmas day. he has been beasting.
Phil's gonna try to put Kobe on him again :oldlol:
[QUOTE=loot]That's 1 guy in Horry who was 24 and had 3 years experience under his belt, and actually changed his game a lot since then. And really, did you call Robert Horry a nobody?[/QUOTE]
Yes, Robert Horry is a nobody. He is a scrub who has proven to be a clutch shooter when called upon. He was drafted a the "next Scottie Pippen" and showed all signs of living up to that in Houston and then promptly disappeared. His only claim to fame is riding along for championship rings.
[QUOTE]Still, the one exception should prove that it's wrong to expect players who are 22 years of age, playing a big role on good teams to actually improve along the road, even given the fact they get loads of experience? Ok cool.[/QUOTE]
No sh*t for brains. My whole point was not to EXPECT anything. You chose to ask for an example that is highly unlikely in the first place, which proves my point anyways. You shouldn't expect these things from the word "go" because the odds of having a rookie contribute on a championship team are next to nil in the first place.
You can probably count on one hand the # of rookies who have had ANYTHING to do with winning a championship since Magic. Irregardless, where did you come up with the challenge that the person had to be a rookie in the first place? Rondo was no rookie last year.
Mathius
Rondo should be in the ASG because he would wow the crowd with his behind the back fake (AKA every time he drives) and his falling to the ground awkwardly and looking like he's going to shatter his skull move.
Just imagine if the Celtics had Mario Chalmers.
[QUOTE=Mississippi]Not saying he's a bad player or anything, but he's definitely not what he's hyped up to be. I've been hearing people saying that he's an allstar this year and I think that is ridiculous. Hell I think [b]Sebastian Telfair[/b], Delonte West and Allen Ray would look like allstars next to Garnett, Pierce and Allen. [b]At least those three guards can actually shoot the ball[/b]. Rondo passes up on so many open looks which he should be taken. Maybe I haven't seen enough to really say, but from what I've seen he's nowhere near an allstar caliber guard just yet.[/QUOTE]
saywhat?!
how did that get past people?
telfair couldn't shoot the ball with a gun in his right hand if he held the ball in his left.
[QUOTE=Biddy77]saywhat?!
how did that get past people?
telfair couldn't shoot the ball with a gun in his right hand if he held the ball in his left.[/QUOTE]
And rondo can? He's shooting like 23% on jump shots. Telfair is shooting 41% on jumpers; it's nothing great but it's better than rondo by far.
[QUOTE=barbaroi]And rondo can? he's shooting like 23% on jump shots.[/QUOTE]
read the highlighted parts. i'm not saying Rondo can shoot. i'm refuting that the OP said "AT LEAST THOSE THREE GUARDS CAN SHOOT" when one of the 3 guards he named was Telfair.
there are multiple reasons Telfair isn't sticking anywhere. people are picking him up based on perceived potential, then figuring out very quickly that he is terrible.
Rondo is steady and gets the job done. am i saying he's great? nope. i think that term is thrown around WAY too loosely.
[QUOTE=Biddy77]saywhat?!
how did that get past people?
telfair couldn't shoot the ball with a gun in his right hand if he held the ball in his left.[/QUOTE]
Telfair actually has range and can make the open shot unlike Rondo.
Rondo is a complete liability in terms of shooting, and he will cost Boston the title if they make it to the Finals again, since they'll be playing 4-on-5 vs. LA again on offense. Mark my words.
[QUOTE=DuMa]Rondon is going to eat the Lakers alive on christmas day. he has been beasting.
Phil's gonna try to put Kobe on him again :oldlol:[/QUOTE]...lol
I would trade Rondo for Glen Davis straight up.
[QUOTE=DuMa][B]Rondon is going to eat the Lakers alive on christmas day. he has been beasting.[/B]
Phil's gonna try to put Kobe on him again :oldlol:[/QUOTE]
Fail.
:roll:
[QUOTE=Mississippi]Telfair actually has range and can make the open shot unlike Rondo.[/QUOTE]
ok, i'll throw out his career numbers and just look at this season so we can account for time to develop--that does help somewhat.
he's .321 from the floor, .333 from the line. that's the second best 3% of his career, and... the worst total shooting % of his career. being able to cover the distance from the line to the basket doesn't = 'having range'. imo, you can't make the claim of 'having range' until you shoot it well enough to inspire your coaches to say "you need to take that shot".
sure, Rondo shoots below 30% from 3 (.263), but... his overall fg% is .523. at least he seems to know what his limitations are.
[QUOTE=Mississippi]Telfair actually has range and can make the open shot unlike Rondo.[/QUOTE]
He just plays zero defense. Gets wiped out on every single pick and roll, and couldn't keep Mike Biby in front of him. But he sure can hit 2 out of every five jumpers he'll take:applause:
[QUOTE=Biddy77]
sure, Rondo shoots below 30% from 3 (.263), but... his overall fg% is .523. at least he seems to know what his limitations are.[/QUOTE]
His limitations -- and they are enormous -- will cost Boston the title this year. You can go to any rec center or Y in the country and pick out half a dozen guys who can shoot better than Rondo. That's sad.