Mark Cuban yells at K-Mart's Mom...

[QUOTE=John Smith]and why bring up music? My dougie...yeah that's going to go a long way to shattering the stereotypes...

rats? OKAY. I love blacks. I'm around them all day. The catch? They're educated and share a similar value structure that I do. It's the kind of people that make all the difference. Do you like white trash? I sure don't...[/QUOTE]

Ah now we are getting somewhere. So you really like black people. Just the ones you know to be educated. So this is not really a race problem is it? You just believe that Martin is uneducated. Well someone just posted it... the man has a degree. So there goes your education theory. Your theory wilts even more when you actually look at the fact that there are white players in the league with no degree. Does that then make them criminals or thugs? Or is it the combination... no education + melanin = thug?

[QUOTE=John Smith]hahaha, no it exists because there are increased odds of certain groups engagin in criminal behavior based upon the enviornment in which they exist as well as other proven statistics. Is it right? Of course not. I'm not trying to be right here. I'm just explaining reality. Deal with it. Neither you nor I can change it even though it is 110% wrong!

Also, Mor'Fiyah, why do you think there are so many poor people from that group? Could it be that 70% of the males in that group abandon their baby's mamma and their babies as the stats say? What about unemployment rates of said group? Broken and 1 parent families lead to poverty. There are causes and reasons for everything. You just have to be man enough to face the facts.[/QUOTE]

We could go back and forth on why these people are poor and it wouldnt matter really (the answer is MUCH deeper than the one you gave). Who cares why they are poor... all that matters is that wealthy blacks do not commit crimes in much the same way that wealthy whites do not commit crimes. Martin, a professional NBA player, is not poor. Therefore how can you judge him as being a likely thug or criminal?! Unless you are racist... which is likely the reality of this situation. Racist pricks like you exist in the world hence things like racial profiling exist.

[QUOTE=Mor'Fiyah]Ah now we are getting somewhere. So you really like black people. Just the ones you know to be educated. So this is not really a race problem is it? You just believe that Martin is uneducated. Well someone just posted it... the man has a degree. So there goes your education theory. Your theory wilts even more when you actually look at the fact that there are white players in the league with no degree. Does that then make them criminals or thugs? Or is it the combination... no education + melanin = thug?[/QUOTE]

I live and work in chicago. if i hated all of a certain group, i'd be dead of a heart attack. I work for the government. I am out-numbered 5 to 1 by a certain group. But you know what? Most of them are more educated than me and more rich than me. Poverty could be the main problem but with Affirmative Action, why isn't it changing?

You are similar to kenyon martin that you act out of emotion opposed to intellect.

Why not address the broken families that plague that community? Obviously, that is where all of the problems arise from. There are no role models except for that gangster making fast loot, driving a nice car, and getting all the ladies. So, they try to be like him since their "father" thought all it took was 30 minutes to be a "man."

[QUOTE=John Smith]and why bring up music? My dougie...yeah that's going to go a long way to shattering the stereotypes...

rats? OKAY. I love blacks. I'm around them all day. The catch? They're educated and share a similar value structure that I do. It's the kind of people that make all the difference. Do you like white trash? I sure don't...[/QUOTE]

The old "I have many Black friends" argument.:rolleyes:
Well I hope those 'educated' Blacks that you hang around with don't look down on you because of your obvious ignorance.

I have yet to hear you rant about Chris Andersen who has an intimidating in your face style,Tattos all over & was expelled from the Leagues due to drugs. It would seem you are supporting a Team of 'thugs' by your definition of the word.
Kenyon Martin(as far as I know) has a cleaner record in the League than Chris Adersen.

[QUOTE=John Smith]I live and work in chicago. if i hated all of a certain group, i'd be dead of a heart attack. I work for the government. I am out-numbered 5 to 1 by a certain group. But you know what? Most of them are more educated than me and more rich than me. Poverty could be the main problem but with Affirmative Action, why isn't it changing?

You are similar to kenyon martin that you act out of emotion opposed to intellect.[/QUOTE]

Because affirmative action is a joke. Whites are still uber times more likely to get accepted to a school or get a job despite having the exact same qualifications as a black or hispanic person. Clearly affirmative action isn't being enforced properly.

And you don't hate people of a certain group. You just tolerate them. But you do believe that their skin color directly correlates to them being a thug or not. I wonder what your educated black "friends" would say to you if they knew that. But I am sure that you don't go around spewing this nonsense to actual black people.

Chris Andersen is a thug because that is the image he has taken on, yet the people love him because of his swag. Do the people love Kenyon Martin? Did Mark Cuban talk ish to Andersen's mother?

[QUOTE=Mor'Fiyah]Because affirmative action is a joke. Whites are still uber times more likely to get accepted to a school or get a job despite having the exact same qualifications as a black or hispanic person. Clearly affirmative action isn't being enforced properly.

And you don't hate people of a certain group. You just tolerate them. But you do believe that their skin color directly correlates to them being a thug or not. I wonder what your educated black "friends" would say to you if they knew that. But I am sure that you don't go around spewing this nonsense to actual black people.[/QUOTE]

I do and they bring up the N word. They say that's why they moved away from their neighborhoods. In fact, that is another problem. People of a certain group abandon their communities once they become wealthy and educated. They should stay and re-invest in their neighborhoods to give others, like them, a better opportunity. So maybe there would be more businesses instead of just strip clubs, liquor stores, and fast food chains. Although theft would be a concern...by both customers and employees.

[QUOTE=John Smith]
Why not address the broken families that plague that community? Obviously, that is where all of the problems arise from. There are no role models except for that gangster making fast loot, driving a nice car, and getting all the ladies. So, they try to be like him since their "father" thought all it took was 30 minutes to be a "man."[/QUOTE]

Ok. Even if you are right... and you are not. But even if you were... what does that have to do with Kenyon Martin? He doesn't have a criminal record. He went to school. Has a degree. Is wealthy. Has a job. Has a wife and kids. Is a family man. All you did was look at him and label him a thug based on his race and tats and speech. You my friend are a plain out-and-out racist. Its that simple.

Im sorry, but we live in a society, where the "craigslist killer" is a clean cut med-student blonde haired, blue eyed white guy (google it, and see for yourself)


Yet, we judge people by the fact that they appear to be "thugs" - due to tattoos and funky hairstyles



Its idiotic at this point.

As FAR AS IM CONCERNED, the person that acted like the real thug here is MARK CUBAN. A classless one, at that.

[QUOTE=oh the horror]Im sorry, but we live in a society, where the "craigslist killer" is a clean cut med-student blonde haired, blue eyed white guy (google it, and see for yourself)


Yet, we judge people by the fact that they appear to be "thugs" - due to tattoos and funky hairstyles



Its idiotic at this point.[/QUOTE]

That's because most serial killing child rapists are white people. The facts are the facts.

[QUOTE=John Smith]Chris Andersen is a thug because that is the image he has taken on, yet the people love him because of his swag. Do the people love Kenyon Martin? Did Mark Cuban talk ish to Andersen's mother?[/QUOTE]

Is Derek Rose a thug? If not in what way is he different from Martin? And if he is why do you have a picture of him as your avatar?

And please don't use the word "swag" ... thats "thug" talk.

[QUOTE=Mor'Fiyah]Is Derek Rose a thug? If not in what way is he different from Martin? And if he is why do you have a picture of him as your avatar?[/QUOTE]

He is humble and uses the english language properly. His body language/disposition is 100% the opposite of Kenyon Martin's. This has nothing to do with race even though you seem fixated on it. That would make you the real racist. You hate white people, say it! :lol

[QUOTE=John Smith]That's because most serial killing child rapists are white people. The facts are the facts.[/QUOTE]

How comes we don't profile based on that then? Why don't we also use metal detectors and drug dogs in the white schools instead of the urban black schools since the white students are the ones shooting up the schools? Where is the racial profiling then?

[QUOTE=Mor'Fiyah]How comes we don't profile based on that then? Why don't we also use metal detectors and drug dogs in the white schools instead of the urban black schools since the white students are the ones shooting up the schools? Where is the racial profiling then?[/QUOTE]

Probably because even though a lot of white people rape little kids and kill more than 1 person, there aren't as many instances of it occuring as there are with shootings when it comes to other groups.

That's the thing, white people will be quiet with no swag and the next thing you know the quiet one goes off. There are no outward signs except that they are quiet. If we could figure out a way to catch these sick white devils before they shoot up a school, we'd all be better for it but so far no luck.

Plus, I'm sure most mothers of school children in the inner city would prefer that their schools get the metal detectors first. As they should. Chicago has had 32 public school kids shot dead thus far this school year. That's a whole classroom. These bright eyed, innocent youths show up to better themselves in August and the next thing you know they are dead before June...

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Real Thugs

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Fake Thugs



It has nothing to do with the way you look at all or what race you are see!!!