Insider: Who's better Kobe vs Lebron

[QUOTE=plowking]And the article lost all credibility at Lebron is the better shooter. Since when? His 3 pt shot is the only thing better this year. Even that at the end of the season won't be the case.[/QUOTE]

It's absurd. Bron does several things better than Kobe but shooting just isn't one of them. Hell, most teams play LeBron for the drive and give him wide open jumpers, he better make them...

You know a writer has an agenda when he compares two players' shooting stats based on "long 2s" and "threes" instead on simply looking at jumpshots taken/made %. Especially when Kobe is going out of his way not to shoot 3s this year!

[QUOTE=sixer6ad]You are the king of posting confidently - as if everyone is supposed to believe you - without ever having proof. The post above is emotion-laden:

"I won't argue the rest.." - why?
"Kobe has proven he's the best..." - how?
"...followed by..." - as if that is the order written in the Bible
"Comfortably." - yah, right...a lot of people believe that

LBJ is a 50% shooter overall this year; Kobe is at 48.8
LBJ is at 53.8% on 2's this year; Kobe is at 52.5%

And you post that Lebron is only better at shooting the 3. It's just not true.
Lebron tells everyone that Kobe is the best player in the league, and Lebron fans - many of them - feel the same way. It's just sad that Kobe fans' lack of confidence causes them to shoot down any facts, theories, etc. which suggest LBJ is better at anything.[/QUOTE]

How am I a Kobe fan? I support the Heat...

Kobe is a better scorer, shooter, defender... Furthermore, they're equal rebounders if anything, with Kobe being better this year. Lebron is only grabbing 1 offensive rebound per game to Kobe's 1.3. Defensive rebounding for wings is the most overrated thing, especially for Lebron considering his team gets out of the way for him on rebounds to start the offense, unlike Kobe.

So a better playmaker and 3pt shooter, and the 3pt shooting won't be the case at the end of the season.

Kobe's influence on a game goes beyond stats. I was one to scoff at this as well, and this is after watching him. Though now I really do see that he impacts the game more than anyone in the NBA today.

Lebron still has a problem that Carmelo had a while back; and a young Jordan may I add. He thinks that proving basketball worth all shows up on the stat sheet, when it is far from the truth.

[QUOTE]LBJ is a 50% shooter overall this year; Kobe is at 48.8
LBJ is at 53.8% on 2's this year; Kobe is at 52.5%[/QUOTE]

LeBron gets way more dunks than Kobe so his fg% should be better. The writer claimed that Bron is a better jumpshooter than Kobe this year. That is patently false

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Kobe takes (and makes) more jumpers...

[QUOTE=plowking]How am I a Kobe fan? I support the Heat...

Kobe is a better scorer, shooter, defender... Furthermore, they're equal rebounders if anything, with Kobe being better this year. Lebron is only grabbing 1 offensive rebound per game to Kobe's 1.3. Defensive rebounding for wings is the most overrated thing, especially for Lebron considering his team gets out of the way for him on rebounds to start the offense, unlike Kobe.

So a better playmaker and 3pt shooter, and the 3pt shooting won't be the case at the end of the season.

Kobe's influence on a game goes beyond stats. I was one to scoff at this as well, and this is after watching him. Though now I really do see that he impacts the game more than anyone in the NBA today.

Lebron still has a problem that Carmelo had a while back; and a young Jordan may I add. He thinks that proving basketball worth all shows up on the stat sheet, when it is far from the truth.[/QUOTE]


Did you really just imply Kobe is a better rebounder than LeBron?

[QUOTE=konex]LeBron gets way more dunks than Kobe so his fg% should be better. The writer claimed that Bron is a better jumpshooter than Kobe this year. That is patently false

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Kobe takes (and makes) more jumpers...[/QUOTE]


And LeBron takes (and makes) more 3 pointers than Kobe. On top of that, from 2 point range, he is more efficient and scores at a higher % (jumpers/dunks/everything included). Why are you faulting a guy (who is one of the best finishers ever) for being able to get to the basket whenever he wants?

[QUOTE=Simple Jack]Did you really just imply Kobe is a better rebounder than LeBron?[/QUOTE]

He is correct, Kobe is a more skilled rebounder. Lebron being a SF puts him in a position to get more rebounds. Kobe gets more offensive rebounds than Lebron which requires more skill.

[QUOTE=Simple Jack]And LeBron takes (and makes) more 3 pointers than Kobe. On top of that, from 2 point range, he is more efficient and scores at a higher % (jumpers/dunks/everything included). Why are you faulting a guy (who is one of the best finishers ever) for being able to get to the basket whenever he wants?[/QUOTE]

Again:


[QUOTE]The writer claimed that Bron is a better [B]jumpshooter[/B] than Kobe this year. That is patently false[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Simple Jack]Did you really just imply Kobe is a better rebounder than LeBron?[/QUOTE]

Most of Lebron's rebounds come from his teammates clearing out on long shots from the opposition and the ball just landing in Lebron's lap pretty much. Rebounding should be measured on offense, as they are contested. Kobe is slightly ahead, though I implied he was better, simply that they are equal.

The players in the league say Kobe...
Fans around the world say Kobe...
Coaches say Kobe...
Kids want to be like Kobe...

At the end of it, it will be Kobe remembered as the better player in the years he is around and getting his 30ppg...

[QUOTE=plowking]Most of Lebron's rebounds come from his teammates clearing out on long shots from the opposition and the ball just landing in Lebron's lap pretty much. Rebounding should be measured on offense, as they are contested. Kobe is slightly ahead, though I implied he was better, simply that they are equal.[/QUOTE]


So the best rebounder is the person who gets the most offensive rebounds?

[QUOTE=plowking]The players in the league say Kobe...
Fans around the world say Kobe...
Coaches say Kobe...
Kids want to be like Kobe...

At the end of it, it will be Kobe remembered as the better player in the years he is around and getting his 30ppg...[/QUOTE]

Pippen has said Bron, so has Jerry West. A bunch of players have as well. Their opinions mean more than yours, I win! I can pull rank too. It's a weak argument.

[QUOTE=cotdt]He is correct, Kobe is a more skilled rebounder. Lebron being a SF puts him in a position to get more rebounds. Kobe gets more offensive rebounds than Lebron which requires more skill.[/QUOTE]

We are talking about impact on the court here, not skill.

Earl Boykins is more skilled than Shaq, that doesn't make him better.

Let me guess, Kobe is a better passer too? Or just more skilled...

This is a first by the way; I've heard anyone try to argue Kobe as a better rebounder than LeBron.

ISH, where trolling happens.

[QUOTE=cotdt]Last year's Lakers won 5 more games than the Cavs did, so I don't see why not. In the Lakers system, Lebron would not do as well as Kobe, because the system would not be built around him and Lebron has never played in a distributed offense. Phil Jackson would yell at him when he calls his teammates for an iso play or just dribbles the ball aimlessly for 20 seconds. Lakers' up-tempo offense would be slowed down big time by Lebron. Lebron has never played with a dominant frontline either.

Don't get me wrong Lebron would still do well overall in the Lakers system, but not as well as Kobe. Kind of like how Kobe works better with Shaq than Lebron, it's just his skillset matches better.[/QUOTE]

LeBron's court vision wouldn't help in the triangle? Do you even know what the triangle entails? An unselfish forward who can run the floor, hit jump shots, and has excellent court vision would thrive in the triangle.

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