Joakim Noah fined $50K for using anti-gay slur from bench during Heat-Bulls Game 3

[QUOTE=JMT]Ok...[/QUOTE]

Ok.

Little kids obviously won't understand, but the simple fact is that the commissioner (rightfully) does not want to alienate a segment of the population and promote intolerance of people. So anyone caught saying that, or any other slur, should be fined. Pretty simple.

I have [I]no[/I] problem with the cameras capturing the moments of these athletes
when they spew their hate. Even if the cameraman zoomed in on Noah
intentionally, he didn't force Noah to say what he did. Show the viewers what
the kind of people they look up to. I'm all for it. You can't blame a camera
crew/man/production team for exposing some of these bigots.
Yes, Noah was upset, but that doesn't excuse what he said.

Noah will soon learn or be reminded of the oxymoron that his right to freedom of speech, comes with a price. Lol. Get 'em, Stern. :cheers:

[QUOTE=Zach Morris]I have [I]no[/I] problem with the cameras capturing the moments of these athletes
when they spew their hate. Even if the cameraman zoomed in on Noah
intentionally, he didn't force Noah to say what he did. Show the viewers what
the kind of people they look up to. I'm all for it. You can't blame a camera
crew/man/production team for exposing some of these bigots.
Yes, Noah was upset, but that doesn't excuse what he said.

Noah will soon learn or be reminded of the oxymoron that his right to freedom of speech, comes with a price. Lol. Get 'em, Stern. :cheers:[/QUOTE]

:applause:

I have to think that those arguing in Noah's favor are kids. Can't envision an adult, who has been part of the workforce, would fail to understand this.

[QUOTE=tazb]He shouldn't be. Its FREE SPEECH... **** ****...[/QUOTE]

No, it's not, when pertaining to a contract of employment. A business that pays you for your performance has the right to limit and even penalize speech that it deems damaging or inappropriate.

[QUOTE=SebasMiamiFan]He was on the bench. Did he say it to a fan or ref? The NBA fines are BS. I'm a Heat fan. I really don't like Noah, but this is ridiculous at times. He's being fined half a million dollars for that?[/QUOTE]

To a fan. Reports are...and I haven't gonbe back to watch...say he said it more than once to make sure the fan heard it.

Where'd you come up with a half million bucks?

Though I bet it's more than Kobe's 100K. Should be. Took it off the court.

Little kids obviously won't understand, but the simple fact is that the commissioner (rightfully) does not want to alienate a segment of the population and promote intolerance of people. So anyone caught saying that, or any other slur, should be fined. Pretty simple.

[QUOTE=Knoe Itawl]Little kids obviously won't understand, but the simple fact is that the commissioner (rightfully) does not want to alienate a segment of the population and promote intolerance of people. [B]So anyone caught saying that, or any other slur, should be fined. Pretty simple[/B].[/QUOTE]



Except its never treated so simply..

You can say ***** ass ***** and no fine. Even though the N-word is offensive to blacks

Lebron says retarded in a PC and no fine I mean he's offending retards right?

What about *****? There are female NBA fans like myself to consider...

See what this sets?

If you're going to censor *** fine but you should be prepared to censor and fine every other word accordingly.. anything less just shows how full of shyt Stern and Co are.

[QUOTE=Basketball Fan]Except its never treated so simply..

You can say ***** ass ***** and no fine. Even though the N-word is offensive to blacks

Lebron says retarded in a PC and no fine I mean he's offending retards right?

What about *****? There are female NBA fans like myself to consider...

See what this sets?

If you're going to censor *** fine but you should be prepared to censor and fine every other word accordingly.. anything less just shows how full of shyt Stern and Co are.[/QUOTE]

Say any of it to fans and you'll get fined.

[QUOTE=JMT]:applause:

I have to think that those arguing in Noah's favor are kids. Can't envision an adult, who has been part of the workforce, would fail to understand this.[/QUOTE]

Out of interest, who is arguing in Noah's favor? I've probably said a half dozen times or more that Noah was wrong for making that comment. How much clearer can I make that Noah was wrong?! [U]Noah was wrong for the comment.[/U] Hell, I've deliberately said it 3 times for emphasis in this post alone, but it will be spun that excuses are being made for him, just because I happen to think the cameramen specifically captured the moment purely for sensationalist reasons? Just because I'm saying the moment was deliberately captured, is NOT saying Noah was in the right.

Noah has no reason to make the comment, he needs to exercise better judgment. But do I think the camera crew need to capture this moment and broadcast it on-air? For what purpose, beyond it making for great buzz and drama the next day? Yeah, that's how the media operates, I get it. But tangibly, what purpose does it [I]really[/I] serve?

[QUOTE=Basketball Fan]Except its never treated so simply..

You can say ***** ass ***** and no fine. Even though the N-word is offensive to blacks

Lebron says retarded in a PC and no fine I mean he's offending retards right?

What about *****? There are female NBA fans like myself to consider...

See what this sets?

If you're going to censor *** fine but you should be prepared to censor and fine every other word accordingly.. anything less just shows how full of shyt Stern and Co are.[/QUOTE]

I agree with any of that. I'm black and hate the n word so..........

Deny deny deny....he shouldn't have admitted he said it.

Noah "no no no...I said, 'I really enjoy Bob Saget'. you misunderstood."

[QUOTE=Dragonyeuw]Out of interest, who is arguing in Noah's favor? I've probably said a half dozen times or more that Noah was wrong for making that comment. How much clearer can I make that Noah was wrong?! [U]Noah was wrong for the comment.[/U] Hell, I've deliberately said it 3 times for emphasis in this post alone, but it will be spun that excuses are being made for him, just because I happen to think the cameramen specifically captured the moment purely for sensationalist reasons? Just because I'm saying the moment was deliberately captured, is NOT saying Noah was in the right.

[B]Noah has no reason to make the comment, he needs to exercise better judgment. But do I think the camera crew need to capture this moment and broadcast it on-air? For what purpose, beyond it making for great buzz and drama the next day? Yeah, that's how the media operates, i get it. But tangibly, what purpose does it [I]really[/I] serve?[/QUOTE][/B]



Yep all for the sake of the media's faux pearl clutching.. they got what they wanted why pretend otherwise?

[QUOTE=JMT]Oh, he was just upset! That makes it ok.

Get upset at your job and say that to a customer. See what happens.

It wouldn't be a fine.[/QUOTE]

You can't compare playing in the NBA to an average service job. The fan was most likely heckling Noah as he picked up his second foul. How often do customers for no reason come to your place of employment and start talking trash to you? It's part of the nature of the NBA.

If Noah does get fined, the reason won't be because he yelled at one of the millions of paying customers who go to NBA games each year. Losing one fan's money isn't going to put a dent in the NBA's wallet. Noah will get fined because he was caught on camera saying the slur while wearing an NBA uniform.

Stern isn't going to make money by letting people think that the NBA is a league with no tolerance towards homosexuals. It's not because the NBA as a league is becoming soft and cracking down on every little thing. It's because the US culture as a whole is much more accepting towards minority groups today than back in the 80s. By letting the general public think the NBA is filled with a bunch of overpaid athletic freaks who turn their noses at homosexuality, you're narrowing the market and possibly making your games less family friendly.

Had Noah's comment not been caught on camera, nobody would've given two sh*ts about the fan's hurt feelings or the amount of money lost by him never attending an NBA game ever again in his lifetime.

[QUOTE=Dragonyeuw]Out of interest, who is arguing in Noah's favor? I've probably said a half dozen times or more that Noah was wrong for making that comment. How much clearer can I make that Noah was wrong?! [U]Noah was wrong for the comment.[/U] Hell, I've deliberately said it 3 times for emphasis in this post alone, but it will be spun that excuses are being made for him, just because I happen to think the cameramen specifically captured the moment purely for sensationalist reasons? Just because I'm saying the moment was deliberately captured, is NOT saying Noah was in the right.

Noah has no reason to make the comment, he needs to exercise better judgment. But do I think the camera crew need to capture this moment and broadcast it on-air? For what purpose, beyond it making for great buzz and drama the next day? Yeah, that's how the media operates, i get it. But tangibly, what purpose does it [I]really[/I] serve?[/QUOTE]

Dude, I made no reference to you, and certainly didn't say or imply that you were arguing in Noah's favor. But there are people, in both threads, that are taking his side.

Christ, get them out of a bunch. It's really not all about you.