Why is Kobe considered inefficient?

[QUOTE=Pinkhearts]Haters gonna hate as always.

Volume scorer on average efficiency = great scorer. He can hit a high amount of shots at an average rate of an ordinary player. Not many guys can put up that many kind of shots.

[B]Also you need to know where Kobe plays...on the perimeter/midrange taking tons of difficult contested jumpers when his team cannot create anything. Of course his percentage suffers.[/B] But guess what he frees up the inside for his big men to operate. Guys like Lebron and Jordan play closer to the basket and get better percentages.

So if you put together a bunch of high efficiency players your team will always win? They'd probably get in each others way....just look at Wade and Lebron. Both need the ball in their hands and slash to the basket so they get in each others way. If you play Shaq and Duncan together things are gonna get horrible as both are low post players.

Not saying that Kobe is better than all those guys, but using these statistics as an argument just shows illogical hate on your part.[/QUOTE]

Sometimes that's his own fault tho. He has bad shot selection. There are ways for him to get out of that and get more open for his shots, but he doesn't do it.

[QUOTE=tmacattack33]A lot.

Since MJ (another efficient player) left:

[B]Tim Duncan and Shaq won many titles due to their amazing and efficient play. As did Wade and Dirk.[/B]


Meanwhile, inefficient players like Iverson, Francis, V. Carter, and Marbury came into the league with all the hype and never won a thing.[/QUOTE]
Dunk and Shaq are post players you tool.....they play close to the basket. Wade plays at the rim. Kobe is primarily a jump shooter whom consistently get 85+% of his points from jumpers. He's not inefficient and never was....

Dirk was the furthest thing from efficient in the NBA finals. PER is trash.

Because for the simple reason all his main rivals in the top 3-5 over the years have always shot around 48-50% and thats all people have compared him with. Wade and Lebron are good examples of that.

[QUOTE=All Net]Because for the simple reason all his main rivals in the top 3-5 over the years have always shot around 48-50% and thats all people have compared him with. Wade and Lebron are good examples of that.[/QUOTE]
His rivals were way more inefficient than he was back in the early 2000s.

[QUOTE=iDefend5]His rivals were way more inefficient than he was back in the early 2000s.[/QUOTE]

who cares about early 00's?:confusedshrug:
Current perimeter superstars are simply much better and efficient than the ones 10 years ago - simple fact. The things which were considered "elite" back then are a norm nowadays. Hell, Lebron is having the most efficient season ever for a perimeter superstar player, yet everyone acts like it's a normal thing LMAO

[QUOTE=madmax]who cares about early 00's?:confusedshrug:
Current perimeter superstars are simply much better and efficient than the ones 10 years ago - simple fact. The things which were considered "elite" back then are a norm nowadays. Hell, Lebron is having the most efficient season ever for a perimeter superstar player, yet everyone acts like it's a normal thing LMAO[/QUOTE]

thats because he stopped beinga perimeter player

Classic Kobe-stans...

Hey, Kobe isn't inefficient. Look at the relative league averages!
Hey, how can Bill Russell be in top 5 ever with that fg%?!?!

I guess we should congratulate Kobe for being average...

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A better question should be 'Why are there still so many topics concerning Kobe?'.

Because of his bad shot selection and when compared to guys who had higher overall efficiency than him.. he gets blamed. It's not like he wasn't capable.. but he took too many bad shots such as contested fade away over two defenders etc.

And in the all time debate where there were players with higher efficiency, this hurts him a bit.

because he has way too many 7-26 games for a player of his [I]supposed[/I] caliber.

[QUOTE=iDefend5]His rivals were way more inefficient than he was back in the early 2000s.[/QUOTE]


His rivals weren't playing with the most dominant big sucking up all the defensive pressure either.

[QUOTE=RazorBaLade]thats because he stopped beinga perimeter player[/QUOTE]


FOOL....perimeter players' jobs aren't to stand on the wings and shoot jumpers...THAT'S NOT THEIR JOB....it's to create plays that lead to easy scores. The easiest scores are near the rim...if you can get there, that makes you more effective and dangerous, cuz now your making the defense react, which leads to kick outs for open shots.

You can't fault Lebron for being able to do what Kobe can't.

[QUOTE=f0und]because he has way too many 7-26 games for a player of his [I]supposed[/I] caliber.[/QUOTE]

Really? how many?

[QUOTE=StateOfMind12]I don't get it.

The league average for FG% from 2000-2010 was around the 44-46% range and that is exactly the range Kobe shot from 2000-2010, so how exactly was he inefficient? How is he also inefficient when he always shot in the 55% to 57% range in TS% when the league average of TS% from 2000-2010 was always around the 52-54% range?

If I had to take a guess though it is because Michael Jordan's FG% was always in the 50% so the fact that his FG% was below Jordan's FG% all of a suddenly makes him inefficient opposed to not being as efficient as Michael Jordan. I think some people need to fix their word usage here because that doesn't make Kobe inefficient, just not as efficient or as good as MJ.

It's pretty funny how bad these MJ-Kobe comparisons have damaged Kobe's legacy.


Here are the actual League average for FG%

2000-2001 - 44.3%
2001-2002 - 44.5%
2002-2003 - 44.2%
2003-2004 - 43.9%
2004-2005 - 44.7%
2005-2006 - 45.4%
2006-2007 - 45.8%
2007-2008 - 45.7%
2008-2009 - 45.9%
2009-2010 - 46.1%

Kobe's FG% from '01-'10 (his prime) +/- means how much better or worse than it is compared to league average.

2000-2001 - 46.4% - +2.1
2001-2002 - 46.9% - +2.4
2002-2003 - 45.1% - +0.9
2003-2004 - 43.8% - -0.1
2004-2005 - 43.3% - -1.4
2005-2006 - 45.0% - -0.4
2006-2007 - 46.3% - +0.5
2007-2008 - 45.9% - +0.2
2008-2009 - 46.7% - +0.8
2009-2010 - 45.6% - -0.5

Funny for three of the seasons of the four seasons where his FG% were seasons where he suffered injuries. (all except '05-'06).


Here are Kobe's TS% and eFG% compared to the league average

Kobe's TS% from '01-'10 (his prime)

2000-2001 - 55.2% - +3.4
2001-2002 - 54.4% - +2.4
2002-2003 - 55.0% - +3.1
2003-2004 - 55.1% - +3.5
2004-2005 - 56.3% - +3.3
2005-2006 - 55.9% - +2.4
2006-2007 - 58.0% - +3.9
2007-2008 - 57.6% - +3.6
2008-2009 - 56.1% - +1.5
2009-2010 - 54.5% - +0.2

Kobe's eFG% from '01-'10 (his prime)

2000-2001 - 48.4% - +1.1
2001-2002 - 47.9% - +0.2
2002-2003 - 48.3% - +1.0
2003-2004 - 46.8% - -0.3
2004-2005 - 48.2% - the exact league average
2005-2006 - 49.1% - +0.2
2006-2007 - 50.2% - +0.6
2007-2008 - 50.3% - +0.5
2008-2009 - 48.8% - -1.1
2009-2010 - 48.7% - -1.4[/QUOTE]

So is Kobe just a league-average level player? He's considered inefficient because compared to not only the GOAT but also his contemporary mega-star peers (James, Wade, and formerly CP), he is quite inefficient.

[QUOTE=f0und]because he has way too many 7-26 games for a player of his [I]supposed[/I] caliber.[/QUOTE]

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he only got 8 of those in 16 seasons! that means he got 0.5 of those every season:roll: :roll: