Re: Was Scottie Pippen at least once robbed for Defensive Player of the Year?
[QUOTE=Punpun;7346437]He fell to the hype machine that Jordan was. AKA, Jordan the ballhog stole a Dpoy from Pippen.[/QUOTE]
Jordan wasn't playing in 1994 and not long enough in 1995.
Now what?
Re: Was Scottie Pippen at least once robbed for Defensive Player of the Year?
[QUOTE=Roundball_Rock;13994608]They were a better team than the Nuggets and were much better defensively.
Mutumbo was a one way player which is what capped him in all-NBA, especially since Hakeem, Robinson, Ewing, Shaq, Mourning all played C during his prime.[/QUOTE]
Again, Scottie doesn't stand under the rim for legendary blocks. Dikembe blocks shots, and despite having like 4.5 a game or something the year before, didn't even make the 2nd All-Defensive Team.
Re: Was Scottie Pippen at least once robbed for Defensive Player of the Year?
[QUOTE=Whoah10115;13994635]Again, Scottie doesn't stand under the rim for legendary blocks. Dikembe blocks shots, and despite having like 4.5 a game or something the year before, didn't even make the 2nd All-Defensive Team.[/QUOTE]
Mutumbo wasn't doing this while he stood under the rim:
[IMG]https://thumbs.gfycat.com/HeartfeltHarshIlladopsis-size_restricted.gif[/IMG]
Re: Was Scottie Pippen at least once robbed for Defensive Player of the Year?
[QUOTE=Roundball_Rock;13994656]Mutumbo wasn't doing this while he stood under the rim:
[IMG]https://thumbs.gfycat.com/HeartfeltHarshIlladopsis-size_restricted.gif[/IMG][/QUOTE]
That’s one of the most absurd basketball highlights I’ve ever seen :lol
Unreal defense
Re: Was Scottie Pippen at least once robbed for Defensive Player of the Year?
[QUOTE=Roundball_Rock;13994656]Mutumbo wasn't doing this while he stood under the rim:
[IMG]https://thumbs.gfycat.com/HeartfeltHarshIlladopsis-size_restricted.gif[/IMG][/QUOTE]
At this point you're just not interested in talking. I said he should have won, but that the reason he was given the shaft had nothing to do with the league protecting the Jordan brand, because that's an actual stupid thing to think.
Ibaka was 1st Team All-Defense three consecutive seasons because they called him Iblocka. Shouldn't have been on a non-existent 3rd team, at least two of those times. Iguodala shits on him. But he got it, because he blocks shots.
Re: Was Scottie Pippen at least once robbed for Defensive Player of the Year?
[QUOTE=RRR3;13994658]That’s one of the most absurd basketball highlights I’ve ever seen :lol
Unreal defense[/QUOTE]
Yup, but unfortunately there is no stat to capture that so according to some it doesn't help the team win .:lol
[QUOTE]I said he should have won, but that the reason he was given the shaft had nothing to do with the league protecting the Jordan brand[/QUOTE]
Agreed.
Re: Was Scottie Pippen at least once robbed for Defensive Player of the Year?
I keep trying to tell you guys, Pippen was not as highly regarded back then (1994/1995) as he is today which perfectly explains his lack of votes.
Re: Was Scottie Pippen at least once robbed for Defensive Player of the Year?
Here is a quick sample of what people said in the 90's about Pippen's defense:
[B][U]1994 poll of NBA coaches:[/U][/B] [B]Best one-on-one defender: Bull forward Scottie Pippen (six votes) edged Spur forward Dennis Rodman (four). [/B]Olajuwon, Blaylock and Sonic guard Gary Payton (two votes each) were the only other players chosen by more than one coach. "Rodman used to be the guy. but he's slipped—he doesn't like to go too far from the basket anymore," says a Western coach, I think [B]Pippen can disrupt more than Rodman.[/B]
[url]http://vault.sportsillustrated.cnn.c...4903/index.htm[/url]
[B]Phil Jackson[/B]''A lot of people watch who score and that's wonderful,'' said Bulls Coach Phil Jackson. ''But [B]Scottie Pippen's defense is a one-man wrecking crew.[/B] He plays 48 feet at every position, both sides of court.''
[url]http://www.nytimes.com/1997/06/14/sports/let-us-now-praise-pippen.html?scp=3&sq=Scottie%20Pippen&st=cse[/url]
Re: Was Scottie Pippen at least once robbed for Defensive Player of the Year?
[QUOTE=RogueBorg;13994749]I keep trying to tell you guys, Pippen was not as highly regarded back then (1994/1995) as he is today which perfectly explains his lack of votes.[/QUOTE]
He still was robbed. That's the point.
Re: Was Scottie Pippen at least once robbed for Defensive Player of the Year?
[B][U]Jerry Sloan/New York Times:[/U] [/B]Scottie Pippen was buzzing John Stockton like an annoying gnat in the backcourt, filling the passing lanes the way Coach Jerry Sloan wishes his players would and taking a charge from Karl Malone under the basket. On the next Utah Jazz possession, Pippen caused more havoc.
[B]''He is probably the only guy in basketball who draws offensive fouls anymore,'' Sloan said [/B]today. ''He had a ton of them last night, I think eight or nine. That was about as good a display of being able to step up and take a charge as you'll see.''
Pippen, a roving linebacker in high-tops, is using the finals to [B][U]reaffirm his position as the game's most complete and chaos-inspiring defensive player[/U]. [/B]On Sunday night, [B]he was largely responsible for the lowest scoring total in National Basketball Association history since the advent of the shot clock, when the Chicago Bulls pulverized the Jazz, 96-54[/B], to take a two-games-to-one lead in the four-of-seven-game series.
Pippen roamed the floor, spreading his 6-foot-7-inch angular body from player to player on the Jazz roster.[B] Twenty-six Utah turnovers and an unprecedented finals rout later, everyone wanted to know how one player could cause such disruption.[/B]
He has obliterated the criticism he once received for not being physical enough. [B]This post-season alone, he shut down Charlotte's Glen Rice in the second round and discombobulated the Pacers' offense in the Eastern Conference finals.[/B]
[url]http://www.nytimes.com/1998/06/09/sp...art.html?sec=&[/url]
[B][U]Sports Illustrated/and MJ: [/U][/B]CHICAGO (AP) -- Say this for Michael Jordan and Scottie Pippen's supporting cast, they're not stupid.
Ask any one of the Chicago Bulls whether Jordan or Pippen deserves the MVP award for the NBA Finals, and they come back with the most decisive of non-decisive answers.
"Both," Steve Kerr said, smiling. "Co-MVPs."
Jordan has won the MVP in each of Chicago's five championship seasons. But [B]even His Airness admits the Bulls might not be up 3-1 over the Utah Jazz -- let alone even in the finals -- if not for Pippen's smothering defense.[/B]
Pippen is a mainstay with Jordan on the NBA's All-Defensive team. But he's cranked his defense up a notch in the playoffs, disrupting Indiana's offense and squeezing off Utah's famed pick-and-roll.
[B]"Scottie Pippen is the reason, a major reason, why we're here," Jordan said Thursday. "He's a unique and creative type of player offensively and defensively. And [U]the harmony between the two of us is incomparable. You can't compare it to anything.[/U] That's taken time to deliver and trust each other to where we compliment each other."[/B]
[url]http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/bas...jordan_pippen/[/url]
[B][U]Karl Malone:[/U][/B] ''He could be the best defensive player playing,'' Malone said.
[B][U]Michael Jordan: "There is one guy in the league who can guard me. Fortunately he is on my team.[/U][/B]
Re: Was Scottie Pippen at least once robbed for Defensive Player of the Year?
[QUOTE=97 bulls;13994763]He still was robbed. That's the point.[/QUOTE]
No one thought he was robbed of anything
Only you 30 years later looking up his drtg on bballref
It's hard to overstate how dumb that is on various levels
Anyway, enough with you goat haters... I'm about to play ball myself.. I'll be playing before lebron
Re: Was Scottie Pippen at least once robbed for Defensive Player of the Year?
[QUOTE=Roundball_Rock;13994764][B][U]Jerry Sloan/New York Times:[/U] [/B]Scottie Pippen was buzzing John Stockton like an annoying gnat in the backcourt, filling the passing lanes the way Coach Jerry Sloan wishes his players would and taking a charge from Karl Malone under the basket. On the next Utah Jazz possession, Pippen caused more havoc.
[B]''He is probably the only guy in basketball who draws offensive fouls anymore,'' Sloan said [/B]today. ''He had a ton of them last night, I think eight or nine. That was about as good a display of being able to step up and take a charge as you'll see.''
Pippen, a roving linebacker in high-tops, is using the finals to [B][U]reaffirm his position as the game's most complete and chaos-inspiring defensive player[/U]. [/B]On Sunday night, [B]he was largely responsible for the lowest scoring total in National Basketball Association history since the advent of the shot clock, when the Chicago Bulls pulverized the Jazz, 96-54[/B], to take a two-games-to-one lead in the four-of-seven-game series.
Pippen roamed the floor, spreading his 6-foot-7-inch angular body from player to player on the Jazz roster.[B] Twenty-six Utah turnovers and an unprecedented finals rout later, everyone wanted to know how one player could cause such disruption.[/B]
He has obliterated the criticism he once received for not being physical enough. [B]This post-season alone, he shut down Charlotte's Glen Rice in the second round and discombobulated the Pacers' offense in the Eastern Conference finals.[/B]
[url]http://www.nytimes.com/1998/06/09/sp...art.html?sec=&[/url]
[B][U]Sports Illustrated/and MJ: [/U][/B]CHICAGO (AP) -- Say this for Michael Jordan and Scottie Pippen's supporting cast, they're not stupid.
Ask any one of the Chicago Bulls whether Jordan or Pippen deserves the MVP award for the NBA Finals, and they come back with the most decisive of non-decisive answers.
"Both," Steve Kerr said, smiling. "Co-MVPs."
Jordan has won the MVP in each of Chicago's five championship seasons. But [B]even His Airness admits the Bulls might not be up 3-1 over the Utah Jazz -- let alone even in the finals -- if not for Pippen's smothering defense.[/B]
Pippen is a mainstay with Jordan on the NBA's All-Defensive team. But he's cranked his defense up a notch in the playoffs, disrupting Indiana's offense and squeezing off Utah's famed pick-and-roll.
[B]"Scottie Pippen is the reason, a major reason, why we're here," Jordan said Thursday. "He's a unique and creative type of player offensively and defensively. And [U]the harmony between the two of us is incomparable. You can't compare it to anything.[/U] That's taken time to deliver and trust each other to where we compliment each other."[/B]
[url]http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/bas...jordan_pippen/[/url]
[B][U]Karl Malone:[/U][/B] ''He could be the best defensive player playing,'' Malone said.
[B][U]Michael Jordan: "There is one guy in the league who can guard me. Fortunately he is on my team.[/U][/B][/QUOTE]
Great job Rock.
I think the job Pippen did vs Utah in that game was just as impactful as a guy dropping 50+ pts. I think he accounted for 16 of the Jazz 26 TOs. He was everywhere that night.
Re: Was Scottie Pippen at least once robbed for Defensive Player of the Year?
[QUOTE=3ball;13994768]No one thought he was robbed of anything
Only you 30 years later looking up his drtg on bballref
It's hard to overstate how dumb that is on various levels
Anyway, enough with you goat haters... I'm about to play ball myself.. I'll be playing before lebron[/QUOTE]
Lol yeah right. On a video game.
Re: Was Scottie Pippen at least once robbed for Defensive Player of the Year?
[QUOTE=97 bulls;13994763]He still was robbed. That's the point.[/QUOTE]
I agree
Re: Was Scottie Pippen at least once robbed for Defensive Player of the Year?
[QUOTE=3ball;13994768]No one thought he was robbed of anything
Only you 30 years later looking up his drtg on bballref
It's hard to overstate how dumb that is on various levels
Anyway, enough with you goat haters... I'm about to play ball myself.. I'll be playing before lebron[/QUOTE]
But said GOAT says the same thing about Pippen.
See...this is why you suck. Now ignore refuting me, as you are keen to do.