Michael Jordan memo to Kobe Bryant:

[QUOTE=swag2011]Damn, after reading the whole thing Jordan went IN on Kobe lmao. And i'm a Kobe stan. But why are people making it seem like he said this out of no where? Why is no one (ESPN) or anything mentioning that he was ASKED?


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Erase this, after listening to the context of the question and Kobe's reply.
I change my opinion on Jordan, he really is a pompous jackass.

Kobe is on the damn team, and a reporter asks him a direct question. As a leader you try to motivate your team, what did you people expect him to say "Oh we have no shot against the Dream Team"? :rolleyes:

Of course Jordan had to reply to feed his gigantic ego.

[QUOTE=rhythmic †hesis]I haven't been on this forum for too long and I'm usually not very active, but I am starting to see why there are so many Kobe fans defending the guy.

It's funny how the same excuses guys like you make for Jordan, don't fly when it's for Kobe. How traits like competitiveness, killer instinct etc. don't get Kobe the nod; no for him, it's "guy's FG is lower then Wade's, he is not as good." Look at GOAT's post; "but Jordan was competitive, he won games for Washington...". Or yours "he still averaged more RPG and APG and less TOP".

Honest question, do you guys actually see the double standard in all of this?

Jordan played two years in Washington I believe, his last season [B]he had the least efficient shooting season in league history for anyone who averaged over 20 PPG.[/B] That is a damn fact, open the record books, research it etc.

Jordan at 40 was still running after Ron Mercer and blocking him like he's his bitch. Yes, Jordan is the greatest ever (well 2nd to Magic, but that's my personal opinion). And at 40, he was still impressive, very impressive indeed. Maybe I misunderstood what GOAT was trying to say, did he mean Jordan was very good "for his age" or "compared to the best in the league that year"? If he meant the latter, then that is absolutely not true.

*I am talking about his final season, not sure why you guys are referring to his 1st season with Washington.[/QUOTE]

First you are talking about efficient. Which should obviously be interpreted as efficient overall, not specifically in one carefully segmented element of the game.

Now you have changed up to strictly "shot efficiency".

Those are two extremely different things, idiot. Old MJ was still an efficient and very good player in his final years, but not an efficient shooter anymore.

[QUOTE=andgar923]LOL

YOu mean the other way around.

Again... MJ used to get uncontested shots faaaaaaaar more than Kobe ever did, and this is during game situations where defenders are switching and the lanes were clogged, hand checking was legal etc.etc.

WTF do you think will happen if Kobe guarded him on a one on one matchup?

This is MJ the same dude that would viciously make Pip into his personal bitch so badly that coaches had to stop the abuse. Yes, that Pippen, the player usually regarded as the best wing defender of all time.

ROFL Kobe would be taking contested jumper after contested jumper after contested jumper.[/QUOTE]
It would happen both ways.. Kobe's first step, length, and footwork though would allow him to create space with ease in a one on one setting. And if MJ pressed him Kobe would be gone.

Of course Kobe's been used to having 6'7-6'8 beasts on him with longer reaches, very quick feet, and pure defensive specialist mentalities as well so having a 6'4.5 Jordan on him would be like heaven to shoot over.. would be like he wasnt even there.

[QUOTE=tpols]In a one on one setting with no help defense, Kobe would blow by MJ or get wide open clean looks from midrange at will.[/QUOTE]

And who plays in a one on one setting with no help? This isn't one on one ball. And you're kidding yourself if you think that Jordan couldn't stay in front of Kobe or contest his shots to a FAR greater degree than vice versa. FAR greater. Jordan could get by Kobe at will even in a GAME setting - never mind one on one with no help.

[QUOTE=Clove21]Why the hell would people focus on the Kobe vs Jordan matchup? Kobe is on the downturn and probably wouldn't be able to handle Jordan too well, but you got prime Lebron, Durant and Deron right now against players like Magic and Bird who were at the end of their career.[/QUOTE]


:wtf:


First of all Bird wasn't even practicing with the team and hardly played at all. Secondly why would Magic be guarding Lebron? LOL

Lebron would have Pippen guarding him genius.

[QUOTE=tpols]It would happen both ways.. Kobe's first step, length, and footwork though would allow him to create space with ease in a one on one setting. And if MJ pressed him Kobe would be gone.

Of course Kobe's been used to having 6'7-6'8 beasts on him with longer reaches, very quick feet, and pure defensive specialist mentalities as well so having a 6'4.5 Jordan on him would be like heaven to shoot over.. would be like he wasnt even there.[/QUOTE]
idiot

You guys are complete morons. Jordans own teamates and coaches say Kobe is comparable/close to Jordan. Yet you act like Jordan is going against some D-Leaguer.

[QUOTE=lilgodfather1]Because Jordan is the best evaluator of talent... In fact MJ believing that the DT would win makes me believe that 2012 would destroy them because he is such a bad basketball mnd.[/QUOTE]


:lol

this.

The difference maker in this hypothetical matchup would not be MJ or Kobe. It would be in the paint. The Dream Team bigs would be their biggest advantage. Plus let's stop acting like the Dream Team was this omniscient, all wise group of sages who invented basketball while the '12 team is filled with ignorant rookies with no knowledge of the game who only know how to run and jump.

[QUOTE=LJJ]First you are talking about efficient. Which should obviously be interpreted as efficient overall, not specifically in one carefully segmented element of the game.

Now you have changed up to strictly "shot efficiency".

Those are two extremely different things, idiot. Old MJ was still an efficient and very good player in his final years, but not an efficient shooter anymore.[/QUOTE]

I put in brackets (for any player who scored over 20 PPG). I am sorry your tiny brain couldn't comprehend what I meant, idiot.

If I meant overall efficiency I probably would have used stats such as PER or other parameters, but I bet you realized that back then; you just couldn't help yourself from riding Jordan's dick some more.

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First of all Bird wasn't even practicing with the team and hardly played at all. Secondly why would Magic be guarding Lebron? LOL

Lebron would have Pippen guarding him genius.[/QUOTE]

I'm not talking about head to head matchups. I'm talking about looking at the state of the team as a whole.

People go "OMG, Dream Team had Jordan/Magic/Bird, they can't ever lose!!!" and don't think about it being old Magic and Bird. They are going on name alone and not looking at how all players involved were/are playing.

The only matchup people are treating as a reality is the 29 year old Jordan vs 34 year old Kobe matchup.

Put the Jordan matchup aside and tell me who on the original Dream Team dominates the game to the point that they blow out the 12' team? And then tell me who shuts down Lebron (Pippen, lol), Durant and Deron?

Not happening.

[QUOTE=andgar923]idiot[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=AlphaWolf24]Kobe=MJ
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Typical KOME d1ck Rider................:facepalm