5-Year Old Tragically Kills Baby Sister with Rifle 'Made for Youths'

[QUOTE=Overdrive]Right south of my country one if not the most brutal war/conflict since WWII took place. Many people immigrated including war criminals. Still nobody felt the need to change laws to liberal gun use, because they felt threatened.

I cannot believe that some people try to defend gun use by children. It's high risk and no reward.

The guns are inanimate objects that don't kill people argument is the weirdest though. How come(especially accidents where children kill others) nobody gets killed by stuffed animals?

The purpose of the gun is to put a projectile with high speed into an object, there's no other purpose, so you can't compare it to car accidents either, because their purpose is not to run over people. Scientists are working on guided traffic system that would prevent accidents.

If scientists would try to invent a system for guns so they can't kill people anymore it would render them useless. Shooting for recreational purposes is a sideeffect of the military industry and not the other way round.[/QUOTE]
What country are you from?

My point was merely that these anti gun people parade around these facts that should have absolutely no impact on gun control in America. Comparing America to the ****ing UK? A damn island with a tiny black and hispanic presence. Are you that dumb people? To canada where they lock up theide borders to make sure our trash doesn't spill over onto their lawn? So many dumb Democrats these days

The gun, again, isn't the issue. Retard parents who give their kids a rifle and don't monitor its whereabouts are.

5 years old is definitely too young to be letting a kid play with guns, supervised or otherwise. This is the exact same story as the deputy's kid that killed his mom or whatever the hell it was; just stupid, stupid, STUPID f*cking people with no concept of proper gun safety or storage having their mitts on these things.

In Canada you gotta complete an 8-hour course and/or challenge a written and practical test to get your PAL. After that you can buy guns and ammo to your heart's content. You're an idiot who can't pass the test? No guns for you.

These types of stories NEVER surface up here. Is it because our citizens are forced to actually LEARN something about gun safety/storage/transport before we're allowed to get our hands on them? Maybe, I don't know, but being able to walk into a store with no concept of how a gun works or the proper way to handle/store it and being able to walk out armed is just f*cking crazy.

[QUOTE=Overdrive]How come that countries(not cities) with laws that make it tougher for the average Joe to acquire guns of any kind have lower deathrates by firearms?

How come that the criminals, another favourite argument of the pro gun people, aren't armed like an private army in those countires either? How come criminals don't kill random people on the streets in those countries? How come there are nearly no school shootings in those countries? How come gang crimes in the urban areas of those countries mostly consist of drug dealing and related crimes, still with nearly no homicides?

Do you think in other countries people are genetically allergic to guns? Even the mobsters in europe don't kill as much. Most of the time the kill you financially and socially instead of a plain gunshooting.[/QUOTE]
What Switzerlands deat rate due to guns?

[QUOTE=johndeeregreen]The gun, again, isn't the issue. Retard parents who give their kids a rifle and don't monitor its whereabouts are.


In Canada you gotta complete an 8-hour course and/or challenge a written and practical test to get your PAL. After that you can buy guns and ammo to your heart's content. You're an idiot who can't pass the test? No guns for you.

These types of stories NEVER surface up here. Is it because our citizens are forced to actually LEARN something about gun safety/storage/transport before we're allowed to get our hands on them? Maybe, I don't know, but being able to walk into a store with no concept of how a gun works or the proper way to handle/store it and being able to walk out armed is just f*cking crazy.[/QUOTE]
First you nailed it exactly. Second I never knew that about canada, but that is exactly how laws should be here as well.

Fvckin tragic!

I'm not going to go on some rant about gun control, just gonna say the parents should be put in jail.

The fact that these images are not part of an Onion gag is very disturbing:

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Isn't that precious? That little girl has a rifle to match her tea set.

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"Give Me the Boy Until the Age of Seven, I Will Give You the Man."

Even strict gun laws would not prevent this.... end of story. Dumb parents.

This story is really sad.

Violence in video games is ruining the youth and making society more violent. But it's ok for parents to put a "REAL" gun in their kids hands to go hunting. You want to talk about ass backwards thinking. :facepalm

i think parental negligence is to blame for a lot of school shootings as well; but i think that american gun culture is an embarrassment.

[QUOTE=DonDadda59]The fact that these images are not part of an Onion gag is very disturbing:

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Isn't that precious? That little girl has a rifle to match her tea set.[/QUOTE]
Is that..a baby?!:biggums:

Christ:facepalm

You know what would be even more surprising? If the parents did not let the kids near knives of any sort.

[QUOTE=MAC system]What country are you from?

My point was merely that these anti gun people parade around these facts that should have absolutely no impact on gun control in America. Comparing America to the ****ing UK? A damn island with a tiny black and hispanic presence. Are you that dumb people? To canada where they lock up theide borders to make sure our trash doesn't spill over onto their lawn? So many dumb Democrats these days[/QUOTE]

so essentially, since America is so damn unique, you can never compare ANY other country with America in terms of gun violence? Let me ask you, are there ANY places to which America is comparable to?

[QUOTE=bmulls]Your "amazing" argument is devoid of any context. You haven't accounted for demographics, population size, total crime rate, total violent crime rate, poverty rate and a million other factors that account for crime in societies.

The shit you post is something a 4th grader could dig up on google and submit for homework, and it's hilarious how clever you think you are. You have no appreciation for the complexity of the issue.[/QUOTE]

oh wow, this is an internet basketball forum, not a frickin dissertation for PhD students on gun violence. Also let's be honest here, you act like you'd actually be convinced by gun control side, when in reality, neither side is going to budge much, until public opinion reaches a tipping point because of individual news about gun deaths.


SMH, a gun for a 5 year old in the house? I've shot rifles before when I was 15, but it was in a very strict, controlled range, oh, and it happened to be in the UK!

House fires, Improperly buckled Car seats, and bathtubs kill more kids each year than accidental gun deaths. The answer to this tragedy isn't banning guns, It's parents being responsible enough to keep firearms out of the hands those too immature to handle something like this. Unless you think Gas stoves, cars, and standing water should also be taken away.

If you are for gun control, then you're not against guns, because the guns will be needed to disarm people. You'll need to go around, pass laws, and shoot people who resist, kick in doors, and throw people in jail, and so on; rip up families, just to take away guns. So it's not that you're anti-gun, because you'll need the police's guns to take away other people's guns, so you're very pro-gun, you just believe that only the government (which is of course so reliable, honest, moral, virtuous, and forward-thinking) should be allowed to have guns. So there's no such thing as gun control, there's only centralizing gun ownership in the hands of a small political elite and their minions. Gun control is a misnomer.

We're all in agreement that an arms manufacturer that has a (since removed, shocker) "Kids Corner" page on their site that showcases pictures of literal toddlers holding .22s isn't a good thing, right? We're all in agreement that selling .22s with pretty, innocent pink stocks is a bad thing, right? 22s aren't ****ing Barbies, how can anyone back this company?

You want to play the "guns don't kill" card, fine. Then who does? Five year olds that are legitimately marketed to and whose parents BUY THEM A ****ING RIFLE? That's a responsible industry? Come the **** on. These are the morons we're dealing with. Anyone that supports this shit should feel immense shame.

But **** it right, cuz the gubmint. My little ragtag group of hilljacks that can't hit a deer from 30 yards is going to stop a takeover. Quit watching ****ing Rambo.