Lebron's time of possession in 2015 Finals was 50% higher than RS leader

[QUOTE=fpliii][b]Are you for real? Team efficiency is an aggregate of individual player efficiency. Jesus Christ dude.[/b]

Funny that you call anybody who disagrees with your points a LeBron fan (and I don't derail discussion, I correct the spread of misinformation). That's my cue to leave. There's no conspiracy, it's not the world against you.[/QUOTE]

Now you are just reaching. Just stop dude. :facepalm

[QUOTE=fpliii]I did two things:

[B][COLOR="Red"]1) Correct a belief that it's easier to score later in the shot clock than earlier.
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2) State the obvious, that team scoring is an aggregate of individual scoring.

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No one itt has claimed the red above... So again, your data was an unnecessary derail.. I already posted warriorfan's quote - he was referring to an individual's efficiency, which is obviously different from a team's efficiency.

Regarding #2 above - team scoring is an aggregate of individual scoring, but a team's scoring stats are far different from any one player's stats, which is what we were talking about - the individual..

So again, your post was a derail, as usual.. You have a real penchant for posting irrelevant shit.. :confusedshrug:.. I've noticed this trend for a while now.
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[QUOTE=warriorfan]Now you are just reaching. Just stop dude. :facepalm[/QUOTE]
Excuse me?

Team efficiency in PPP = sum (all individual player points scored) / sum (all individual possessions used). This is vacuously true.

[QUOTE=fpliii]Excuse me?

Team efficiency in PPP = sum (all individual player points scored) / sum (all individual possessions used). This is vacuously true.[/QUOTE]
That's fine... But it has NOTHING to do with the thread.

An individual's efficiency is a far different topic than a team's efficiency.. Why you brought up team efficiency in this thread, I will never know.

[QUOTE=3ball]No one itt has claimed the red above... So again, your data was an unnecessary derail.. I already posted warriorfan's quote - he was referring to an individual's efficiency, which is obviously different from a team's efficiency.

Regarding #2 above - team scoring is an aggregate of individual scoring, but a team's scoring stats are far different from any one player's stats, which is what we were talking about - the individual..

So again, your post was a derail, as usual.. You have a real penchant for posting irrelevant shit.. :confusedshrug:.. I've noticed this trend for a while now.
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Scroll up to post 95 in this thread:

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I'm not going in circles with you.

[QUOTE=fpliii]Scroll up to post 95 in this thread:

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I'm not going in circles with you.[/QUOTE]
Is espn not doing Rapm this year?

[QUOTE=juju151111]Is espn not doing Rapm this year?[/QUOTE]
It's too early in the season probably, since you need a lot of possessions for them to be relevant. Jeremias Engleman (J.E.) is still working for them, so he'll have his numbers out soon. Note that those aren't pure RAPM, they're RPM (also known as xRAPM) - which is a blend of box score data and play-by-play data.

[QUOTE=FKAri]

[B]Because what you posted was an opinion.[/B]

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You're factually incorrect - it isn't opinion that Lebron shot horrifically in the 2015 playoffs and Finals..

It isn't opinion that Lebron used stat-padding, AAU-style clearouts to achieve his Finals stats.

It isn't opinion that Lebron's time of possession in the Finals was 50% higher than the regular season leader.

Ultimately, Lebron's stats are invalidated by his 39% shooting, stat-padding clearout style, and ridiculous time of possession (50% higher than the regular season leader).

[QUOTE=fpliii]Scroll up to post 95 in this thread:

[url]http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=11843346&postcount=95[/url]

I'm not going in circles with you.[/QUOTE]
The fact that Lebron's high time of possession helped him accumulate stats has nothing to do with a team's efficiency late in the shot clock.

Only someone who is dumb and biased for Lebron would think the two have connection.

[QUOTE=3ball]The fact that Lebron's high time of possession helped him accumulate stats has nothing to do with a team's efficiency late in the shot clock.

Only someone who is dumb and biased for Lebron would think the two have connection.[/QUOTE]
When have I mentioned LeBron in this thread?

Is this a roundabout way of asking me my opinion on the Finals?

[QUOTE=fpliii]It's too early in the season probably, since you need a lot of possessions for them to be relevant. Jeremias Engleman (J.E.) is still working for them, so he'll have his numbers out soon. Note that those aren't pure RAPM, they're RPM (also known as xRAPM) - which is a blend of box score data and play-by-play data.[/QUOTE]
What do you consider the more reliable one pure or xrapm.

[QUOTE=juju151111]What do you consider the more reliable one pure or xrapm.[/QUOTE]
xRAPM in a previous year is superior at predicting xRAPM the next year than RAPM in a previous year is at predicting RAPM in the next year (since the blend includes elements of the box score that are consistent). So in terms of statistical 'reliability' (which is the consistency of a measure), xRAPM would be superior.

In terms of statistical validity (degree of correctness), RAPM is superior. It has superior explanatory value, since it is a mathematical isolation of an individual's impact on scoring margin.

I use RAPM in my analysis since my primary interest is in player/team comparisons.

Hope that helps.

[QUOTE=3ball]Lebron's eFG was 43.2%, while his teammates' was 43.3%... Lebron's teammates shot better than he did in the Finals.. This is a fact.

Again, Lebron's stats are invalidated by his 39% shooting, stat-padding clearout style, and ridiculous time of possession (50% higher than the regular season leader).
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Without James on the floor, Cleveland

[QUOTE=fpliii]xRAPM in a previous year is superior at predicting xRAPM the next year than RAPM in a previous year is at predicting RAPM in the next year (since the blend includes elements of the box score that are consistent). So in terms of statistical 'reliability' (which is the consistency of a measure), xRAPM would be superior.

In terms of statistical validity (degree of correctness), RAPM is superior. It has superior explanatory value, since it is a mathematical isolation of an individual's impact on scoring margin.

I use RAPM in my analysis since my primary interest is in player/team comparisons.

Hope that helps.[/QUOTE]
Oh ok because one think i payed very close attention too was Harden defense last year in the RS and he was definitely giving more effort and better and the stat showed he was better then 14. I been trying to find a stat that correctly judges individual defense and DRAPM seems to be the closest one.

[QUOTE=Hey Yo]Without James on the floor, Cleveland