[QUOTE=Lebron23;14177749]Fury would KO Usyk if they fight next year[/QUOTE]
Fury has to fight Joshua. That’s what most fight fans want to see. Usyk has to proved him first. His heavyweight debut leave a lot to be desired of.
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[QUOTE=Lebron23;14177749]Fury would KO Usyk if they fight next year[/QUOTE]
Fury has to fight Joshua. That’s what most fight fans want to see. Usyk has to proved him first. His heavyweight debut leave a lot to be desired of.
[QUOTE=Rooster;14177815]LMAO. How the fact Loma is cherrypicking when he fought the 3 best fighters on his weight class and Tank has not fought anyone. Not only he fought The Who’s who but he also fought grizzly veteran like Salido in his 2nd fight and fought Teo. Tank never done such as a thing in his 24 fights. :facepalm:lol [/quote]
Cherry Picking is going to the WBC and asking for a Franchise Belt to avoid Devin Haney a 21 year old. Unheard of from a P4P guy who then loses to the 23 year old.
He cherry picked Salido and it was more than he could chew. He didn't deserve a title fight but to his credit he has to be the only fighter to get a title fight in his second fight.
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LMAO. Casuals can’t different boxing age. Casuals like to use records without having the ability to break down [B]resume[/B]. [/quote] Who is on Linares resume? Who is on Walters resume? Neither were guys that would make you great cause you have them on your record.
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Comparing Tank resume to Loma resume is clueless Casual will do. In fact Tank never fought any top 5 fighter in his weight class nor any weight class. That’s what you call a true cherrypicker.[/quote]
I never said Tank had a better resume. Floyd and them have cherry picked for Tank - this is true. But I said Tank has a better punch than Teo. Teo tagged Loma and Loma said "OK, lets not throw a punch for the next 5 rounds." Tank would make Loma retire. If Loma was fighting comp he doesn't get so scared to throw a punch like that at his age. His fear re-emerged in the 12th round. He ends up getting severally outboxed again.
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Haney will be the best 135 and I believed in him and his team. But Loma wanted to be the first undisputed 135 champ since IBF and WBO
popped in the scene. Haney hold a regular meaningless belt. Teo was not safer, he has a major belt and has a better resume than Haney. Only casuals think different.[/quote] Mr Casual, are you saying the WBC isn't the most prestigious Belt? Are you not doing your homework Mr Casual? So why did Loma run to the WBC to get a franchise belt so he doesn't have to fight his mandatory Devin Haney?
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El Radar was a wash up at 24. His last great fight was taking the fight to Duran and beat him. By 24 , he started losing to journeyman etc. Again fight fans know this and you are a casual. [/quote]
He lost to Hearns at 23 and the bigger Hamsho at age 24. He was never on par with those guys at any point in his life. He dabbed in drugs. Not all that crazy at that time.
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All your replies is how Casuals talk.[/QUOTE]
Hahahaha, I know its a security blanket for you.
On the real you need to improve your vocabulary and apply some analysis.
[QUOTE=Pointguard;14178315]Cherry Picking is going to the WBC and asking for a Franchise Belt to avoid Devin Haney a 21 year old. Unheard of from a P4P guy who then loses to the 23 year old.
He cherry picked Salido and it was more than he could chew. He didn't deserve a title fight but to his credit he has to be the only fighter to get a title fight in his second fight.
Who is on Linares resume? Who is on Walters resume? Neither were guys that would make you great cause you have them on your record.
I never said Tank had a better resume. Floyd and them have cherry picked for Tank - this is true. But I said Tank has a better punch than Teo. Teo tagged Loma and Loma said "OK, lets not throw a punch for the next 5 rounds." Tank would make Loma retire. If Loma was fighting comp he doesn't get so scared to throw a punch like that at his age. His fear re-emerged in the 12th round. He ends up getting severally outboxed again.
Mr Casual, are you saying the WBC isn't the most prestigious Belt? Are you not doing your homework Mr Casual? So why did Loma run to the WBC to get a franchise belt so he doesn't have to fight his mandatory Devin Haney?
He lost to Hearns at 23 and the bigger Hamsho at age 24. He was never on par with those guys at any point in his life. He dabbed in drugs. Not all that crazy at that time.
Hahahaha, I know its a security blanket for you.
On the real you need to improve your vocabulary and apply some analysis.[/QUOTE]
LMAO. El Radar barely lost to Hearns and Hamsho was merely a gatekeeper. El Radar was a great fighter, only casuals think Hamsho was better than him. El Radar was literally wash up around that age and keep piling Ls to journeyman after that. Only casuals canÂ’t differentiate prime years of certain fighter.
Ring magazine is the most prestigious belt for fight fans. All other belts are just alphabet that confused casuals. ItÂ’s nothing but fees for technicality of being called a champ. WBC added franchise belt to collect more fees and put a regular title (Haney won an interim version) like how WBA does it it. The end game, to collect more money. Again casuals like you canÂ’t grasp that.
Lol about cherrypicking Salido. LMAO How the f you cherrypicked an ultimate gatekeeper in your 2nd pro. Since I donÂ’t feel like itÂ’s mutually beneficial to have a boxing conversation with a casual. How about name me one ATG who fought someone as good as Salido in their 2nd pro fight? :oldlol: Casuals
Linares has won a alphabet belt back in 2007 and has beaten many good fighters that Casuals like you canÂ’t possibly know and has won both the WBC (casuals call it prestigious LOL) and WBA and was the Ring number 1 fighter for 2 years ( Fight fans respect that more) before Loma beat him.
LMAO, Walters just KO a great fighter Donaire who was never been KOd. You donÂ’t have to a great fighter to be a man in your weight class at one point. You keep reaching Casual.
Keep going circles without any getting substantial boxing knowledge from your casual talk. Better aks somebody boyo.
:roll:Again name me a boxer who has better resume than Loma in their first 16 fighters?
and name me
Name me any ATG who fought someone as good as Salido in their 2nd fight?
And better yet
Name me any ATG that has beaten someone as good as Russell in their 3rd fight?
IÂ’ll patiently wait for a casual for finally telling me something that I dunno:banana:
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[QUOTE=Rooster;14178486]LMAO. El Radar barely lost to Hearns and Hamsho was merely a gatekeeper. El Radar was a great fighter, only casuals think Hamsho was better than him. El Radar was literally wash up around that age and keep piling Ls to journeyman after that. Only casuals canÂ’t differentiate prime years of certain fighter. [/quote]
Hamsho was just so much bigger. Benitez was the better boxer but he wasn't going to beat him. Hearn's aim was off and he stilll beat Radar clearly:[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_7mdm0sF6Us[/url]
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Ring magazine is the most prestigious belt for fight fans. All other belts are just alphabet that confused casuals. ItÂ’s nothing but fees for technicality of being called a champ. WBC added franchise belt to collect more fees and put a regular title (Haney won an interim version) like how WBA does it it. The end game, to collect more money. Again casuals like you canÂ’t grasp that. [/quote] F the end game. WBC has better champs consistently and historically than the other Belts. That's my point and you know it.
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Lol about cherrypicking Salido. LMAO How the f you cherrypicked an ultimate gatekeeper in your 2nd pro. Since I donÂ’t feel like itÂ’s mutually beneficial to have a boxing conversation with a casual. How about name me one ATG who fought someone as good as Salido in their 2nd pro fight? :oldlol: Casuals [/quote]
Name me another champion with 12 loses on their record. Loma. was extremely privileged and given a title fight in his second fight - Note Devin Haney can't get ANY BODY to fight him including Loma who was a mandatory. Loma is also the only person in boxing history that had more title fights than regular fights after three fights.
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Linares has won a alphabet belt back in 2007 and has beaten many good fighters that Casuals like you canÂ’t possibly know and has won both the WBC (casuals call it prestigious LOL) and WBA and was the Ring number 1 fighter for 2 years ( Fight fans respect that more) before Loma beat him. [/quote]
You are trying to confuse the landscape... again. Thats not a resume for Linares. You are not fooling me or anybody else here.[quote]
LMAO, Walters just KO a great fighter Donaire who was never been KOd. You donÂ’t have to a great fighter to be a man in your weight class at one point. You keep reaching Casual. [/quote]
Donaire has great names on resume... but he lost all of them. Good try tho.
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:roll:Again name me a boxer who has better resume than Loma in their first 16 fighters?
and name me
Name me any ATG who fought someone as good as Salido in their 2nd fight? [/quote]
Because of your unique inability to understand human biology its just a freak situation of his advanced age that allowed this to happen. Not greatness, just age.
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Name me any ATG that has beaten someone as good as Russell in their 3rd fight? [/quote]
I give him credit there. That's the apex of his career tho. Russell is the idea fight for Loma. A smaller guy, had no championship experience and had small arms like himself.
The new group is just a lot better than Loma's era, and more than likely him. He's not going to be able to catch Shakur - a sure HOFer and the most skilled of the bunch. He feared Teo's punching power, so I doubt he'll want any parts of Tank. Haney is a big skilled, long, strong superb boxer future HOFer and has everything Loma has trouble with. Ryan Garcia is the one who might be on Loma's radar. I'm sure Tank's size is enticing Loma, but his defense would have to be perfect.
[QUOTE=Pointguard;14178652]Hamsho was just so much bigger. Benitez was the better boxer but he wasn't going to beat him. Hearn's aim was off and he stilll beat Radar clearly:[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_7mdm0sF6Us[/URL]
F the end game. WBC has better champs consistently and historically than the other Belts. That's my point and you know it.
Name me another champion with 12 loses on their record. Loma. was extremely privileged and given a title fight in his second fight - Note Devin Haney can't get ANY BODY to fight him including Loma who was a mandatory. Loma is also the only person in boxing history that had more title fights than regular fights after three fights.
You are trying to confuse the landscape... again. Thats not a resume for Linares. You are not fooling me or anybody else here.
Donaire has great names on resume... but he lost all of them. Good try tho.
Because of your unique inability to understand human biology its just a freak situation of his advanced age that allowed this to happen. Not greatness, just age.
I give him credit there. That's the apex of his career tho. Russell is the idea fight for Loma. A smaller guy, had no championship experience and had small arms like himself.
The new group is just a lot better than Loma's era, and more than likely him. He's not going to be able to catch Shakur - a sure HOFer and the most skilled of the bunch. He feared Teo's punching power, so I doubt he'll want any parts of Tank. Haney is a big skilled, long, strong superb boxer future HOFer and has everything Loma has trouble with. Ryan Garcia is the one who might be on Loma's radar. I'm sure Tank's size is enticing Loma, but his defense would have to be perfect.[/QUOTE]
Shakur already wants to fight Valdez in place of Berchert. That’s what a true definition of taking a great risk. Something Tank has not done in his years at 130. Fight a top level competition in your weight class. Garcia is also fighting
Campbell. I agree about Haney because I like him, he’s the most complete fighter among all of them and build his career fighting tough mofos from Mexico. But Tank, he’s a true definition of cherrypicking .
LMAO. Donaire has beaten every top fighter in his weight class .
Casuals like you can’t probably break down his resume like someone can’t break down the game and look at only the boxscore. Donaire only lose to Rigo in his prime and only got KO by Walters.
LMAO about 12 losses. :banghead: :facepalm:oldlol:That’s like casuals talk. Salido has beaten champs and exposed prospects. And let me it this was even the GOAT has 19 losses. Henry Armstrong started his career with 1-3. Even a top 10 ATG has many loses and never became world champion . Casuals like you like would never know. Fight fans understand how a great fighter was made, casuals like you only arrived when he get there.
[QUOTE=Rooster;14178746]Shakur already wants to fight Valdez in place of Berchert. That’s what a true definition of taking a great risk. Something Tank has not done in his years at 130. Fight a top level competition in your weight class. Garcia is also fighting
Campbell. I agree about Haney because I like him, he’s the most complete fighter among all of them and build his career fighting tough mofos from Mexico. But Tank, he’s a true definition of cherrypicking [/quote]
Shakur's defense is crazy. He really has that on lock.
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LMAO. Donaire has beaten every top fighter in his weight class .
Casuals like you can’t probably break down his resume like someone can’t break down the game and look at only the boxscore. Donaire only lose to Rigo in his prime and only got KO by Walters. [/quote]
??? He lost to Frampton, Jesse Magdeleno and recently lost to Inoue. Has he beaten any A list fighters? He lost his top five fights. Look it up.
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LMAO about 12 losses. :banghead: :facepalm:oldlol:That’s like casuals talk. Salido has beaten champs and exposed prospects. And let me it this was even the GOAT has 19 losses. Henry Armstrong started his career with 1-3. Even a top 10 ATG has many loses and never became world champion . Casuals like you like would never know. Fight fans understand how a great fighter was made, casuals like you only arrived when he get there.[/QUOTE]
19 losses in the 1940's isn't the same as now. You are talking about a guy who was 128 and 1 before he started losing (he avenged that 1 loss to Jake Lamotta like four times). At age 35, according to you he's not suppose to age, it was plain to see he lost his touch. He lost 18 fights after being 35 years old starving and sometimes fighting like 8 or 9 times a year. If you knew this information you should be more responsible in how you say it. Its the biggest bone head move a guy who thinks he's a boxing historian can make.
[QUOTE=Pointguard;14179083]Shakur's defense is crazy. He really has that on lock.
??? He lost to Frampton, Jesse Magdeleno and recently lost to Inoue. Has he beaten any A list fighters? He lost his top five fights. Look it up.
19 losses in the 1940's isn't the same as now. You are talking about a guy who was 128 and 1 before he started losing (he avenged that 1 loss to Jake Lamotta like four times). At age 35, according to you he's not suppose to age, it was plain to see he lost his touch. He lost 18 fights after being 35 years old starving and sometimes fighting like 8 or 9 times a year. If you knew this information you should be more responsible in how you say it. Its the biggest bone head move a guy who thinks he's a boxing historian can make.[/QUOTE]
LMAO Any fight fans would know what a great fighter done in his prime . ThereÂ’s bunch of ATG who has pile of losses. Fight fans understand the level of competition and all the nuances that comes with it. Now you learned that losses does not mean anything. You can go back to casual talk where undefeated record means more for hyping a certain fighter.
Donaire has a slew of good fighter in his resume all the way winning 4 alphabet titles. LMAO, Frampton and Magdaleno is not even on top 5 on his resume. :facepalm:roll: LMAO Better aks somebody boho.
Maybe Inoue if withstand the test of time. Only casuals look up record and clueless like you . One of his under appreciated win was not even highly regarded until now as he has ruled over a decade. Since you dunno, thereÂ’s no point in discussing with you.
Casuals will be casuals. :oldlol:
[QUOTE=Rooster;14179109]LMAO Any fight fans would know what a great fighter done in his prime . ThereÂ’s bunch of ATG who has pile of losses. Fight fans understand the level of competition and all the nuances that comes with it. Now you learned that losses does not mean anything. You can go back to casual talk where undefeated record means more for hyping a certain fighter. [/quote]
You can have losses, no biggie. But embarrassing losses in only 16 fights while being totted as the best in a generation that had Bud Crawford, Andre Ward, Canelo and Spence is pure crap. And still being championed over the Charlo Bros. Andrade and Manny. All are guys you never saw a never saw a young fighter dominate them boxing wise or a journey man beat them convincingly. We never saw them too scared to throw a punch. What's wild is that Teo wasn't the best person to dismantle the matrix.
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Donaire has a slew of good fighter in his resume all the way winning 4 alphabet titles. LMAO, Frampton and Magdaleno is not even on top 5 on his resume. :facepalm:roll: LMAO Better aks somebody boho.[/quote]
I name the guys when I talk about them. Casuals, like yourself, can't do it. Donaire lost most of his biggest fights. He has an impressive resume but it needs more wins in big fights..
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Maybe Inoue if withstand the test of time. Only casuals look up record and clueless like you . One of his under appreciated win was not even highly regarded until now as he has ruled over a decade. Since you dunno, thereÂ’s no point in discussing with you.
Casuals will be casuals. :oldlol:[/QUOTE]
When your analytical skills get better, your last line will have some variance in it. A word to the wise... .
[QUOTE=Pointguard;14179432]You can have losses, no biggie. But embarrassing losses in only 16 fights while being totted as the best in a generation that had Bud Crawford, Andre Ward, Canelo and Spence is pure crap. And still being championed over the Charlo Bros. Andrade and Manny. All are guys you never saw a never saw a young fighter dominate them boxing wise or a journey man beat them convincingly. We never saw them too scared to throw a punch. What's wild is that Teo wasn't the best person to dismantle the matrix.
I name the guys when I talk about them. Casuals, like yourself, can't do it. Donaire lost most of his biggest fights. He has an impressive resume but it needs more wins in big fights..
When your analytical skills get better, your last line will have some variance in it. A word to the wise... .[/QUOTE]
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LMAO, Casual gonna be casuals.:oldlol:
YouÂ’re out of your depth brah.:no:
Still canÂ’t name me one fighter that has better resume Loma in 16 fights. Still making excuses.
So IÂ’m gonna riddle your casual knowledge instead.
Great fighter with less fights and more losses than Salido was revered by fights fans and fight fans. Name me that fighter casual.
LMAO any fight fans understand that 126 was stretch for Donaire and those losses are hogwash. He is fighting 5 divisions above the first weight classes he won. Only ATG has that accolade. You keep reaching outside of your casual zone.
Donaire won his biggest fights. Casuals like you are usually clueless when it comes to it so
IÂ’ll riddle your casual knowledge.:banana:
1. This fighter was a 3 division belt holder and was consider the man at his weight class and unified champ. After Donaire move up and put him on seizure mode , it catapulted Donaire to P4p status.
2. This fighter was like buzzsaw knocking out everyone until Donaire beat him from pillar to post. And just like Donaire fought in 5 different weight classes to win 2 major belts along with it and a fixture in everyone of them and a borderline HOF.
3. This flamboyant fighter is 4 division champ and was major belt holder until Donaire beat him and unified the title. He will be inducted to HOF.
4. This belt holder had a long reign and considered the man in that weight class and Donaire moved up and beat him further cemented his p4p status.
5. This fighter had 16 title defense and another 11 title defense in 2 weight classes and in between that is his loss to Donaire basically put his bike and run around.
6. This one is not even regarded until this dude rule his weight class over a decade and his 2 victims is now 2 of best fighter on 2 weight classes above.
And these are all easy win for Donaire.
Among his resume his another interim belt on another weight classes (like Haney won) that casuals call them champ. So in your logic, he is 5 division champ. Now name fighter that have that accomplishment.
Only casual think Donaire biggest fights was at 126
casual gonna be casual:oldlol:
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Still canÂ’t name me one fighter that has better resume Loma in 16 fights. Still making excuses.[/quote]
His 16 career fights definitely are mediocre for a guy in his prime. It's not at a great level. He would have lost 12 rounds to a very young fighter that wasn't a boxer. That never happens. The current P4P group don't have something that humiliating on their record. He was scared to throw punches.
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So IÂ’m gonna riddle your casual knowledge instead.
Great fighter with less fights and more losses than Salido was revered by fights fans and fight fans. Name me that fighter casual.[/quote]
Who cares?!? Salido sucks - you always miss the bigger point. You aren't a boxing fan. You are a nut.
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LMAO any fight fans understand that 126 was stretch for Donaire and those losses are hogwash. He is fighting 5 divisions above the first weight classes he won. Only ATG has that accolade. You keep reaching outside of your casual zone.[/quote] Its been 10 years now he's been fighting at 122, he only has a couple of loses at 126 - Frampton and Nicolas Walters (so now you are saying one of the few big names on Walter's resume wasn't worth mentioning). You just keep stumbling over yourself. Rigo was going to beat Donaire no matter what the weight was going to be.[quote]
Donaire won his biggest fights. Casuals like you are usually clueless when it comes to it so
IÂ’ll riddle your casual knowledge.:banana:
1. This fighter was a 3 division belt holder and was consider the man at his weight class and unified champ. After Donaire move up and put him on seizure mode , it catapulted Donaire to P4p status.
2. This fighter was like buzzsaw knocking out everyone until Donaire beat him from pillar to post. And just like Donaire fought in 5 different weight classes to win 2 major belts along with it and a fixture in everyone of them and a borderline HOF.
3. This flamboyant fighter is 4 division champ and was major belt holder until Donaire beat him and unified the title. He will be inducted to HOF.
4. This belt holder had a long reign and considered the man in that weight class and Donaire moved up and beat him further cemented his p4p status.
5. This fighter had 16 title defense and another 11 title defense in 2 weight classes and in between that is his loss to Donaire basically put his bike and run around.
6. This one is not even regarded until this dude rule his weight class over a decade and his 2 victims is now 2 of best fighter on 2 weight classes above.
And these are all easy win for Donaire.
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Are you talking about Arce??? Wasn't he about to retire?
[QUOTE=Pointguard;14180020]His 16 career fights definitely are mediocre for a guy in his prime. It's not at a great level. He would have lost 12 rounds to a very young fighter that wasn't a boxer. That never happens. The current P4P group don't have something that humiliating on their record. He was scared to throw punches.
Who cares?!? Salido sucks - you always miss the bigger point. You aren't a boxing fan. You are a nut.
Its been 10 years now he's been fighting at 122, he only has a couple of loses at 126 - Frampton and Nicolas Walters (so now you are saying one of the few big names on Walter's resume wasn't worth mentioning). You just keep stumbling over yourself. Rigo was going to beat Donaire no matter what the weight was going to be.
Are you talking about Arce??? Wasn't he about to retire?[/QUOTE]
LMAO casuals will always be casual.
you canÂ’t talk boxing in retrospect boyo.
i gave a great fighter who has fewer fights and more losses than Salido. Just going by names like Casual do, Salido has more impressive wins except he canÂ’t crack a skull like this mofo did.
name me that fighter boyo.
and you only can name one on Donaire resume LMAO.
Better ask somebody boyo.
And nikka please before start criticizing someone resume, you betta have sufficient knowledge to start with. Otherwise itÂ’s just casual talk.
i dare you to dig deeper in over 100 years of history of boxing to name me one boxer that has more impressive resume than Loma 16 fights and all I hear is crickets and excuses.
whoopsie daisy, you still has not said anything that can differentiate you from casuals.
betta aks somebody boyo.
[QUOTE=Rooster;14180049]LMAO casuals will always be casual. [/quote]
You are like a parrot that thinks its learned a hip and sophisticated word. I thought it could get better but...
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you canÂ’t talk boxing in retrospect boyo.
i gave a great fighter who has fewer fights and more losses than Salido. Just going by names like Casual do, Salido has more impressive wins except he canÂ’t crack a skull like this mofo did.
name me that fighter boyo.
and you only can name one on Donaire resume LMAO.
Better ask somebody boyo.
And nikka please before start criticizing someone resume, you betta have sufficient knowledge to start with. Otherwise itÂ’s just casual talk.
i dare you to dig deeper in over 100 years of history of boxing to name me one boxer that has more impressive resume than Loma 16 fights and all I hear is crickets and excuses.
whoopsie daisy, you still has not said anything that can differentiate you from casuals.
betta aks somebody boyo.[/QUOTE]
:lol:lol:lol wtf is this. You resort to being an imploding five year old in prison.
Donaire wasn't great enough to make Walters resume great, which would improve Loma's resume. Only a fool is going to believe that. That's a lost argument you are staying on it because you know how weak his resume is.
Fighters don't pick their first fights. You acting like you don't know that??? A great majority, upwards of 90 percent, of excellent fighters [B]don't loose two fights in their first 16 fights[/B]. Much less lose two embarrassing fights. A great majority, upwards of 95 percent of HOFers, have a better resume than Loma, [B]after turning 25 years of age[/B]. Loma just had a freak combination of being in his peak when he turned pro and allowed to cherry pick fights. Bud Crawford [B]can't get a good fight for five years after he unified Belts[/B]. Loma was able get two championship fights after [B]ONE[/B] fight. Pros were predicting Loma would lose to Teo because he didn't have comp. They aren't talking about a great.
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Donaire wasn't great enough to make Walters resume great, which would improve Loma's resume. Only a fool is going to believe that. That's a lost argument you are staying on it because you know how weak his resume is.
Fighters don't pick their first fights. You acting like you don't know that??? A great majority, upwards of 90 percent, of excellent fighters [B]don't loose two fights in their first 16 fights[/B]. Much less lose two embarrassing fights. A great majority, upwards of 95 percent of HOFers, have a better resume than Loma, [B]after turning 25 years of age[/B]. Loma just had a freak combination of being in his peak when he turned pro and allowed to cherry pick fights. Bud Crawford [B]can't get a good fight for five years after he unified Belts[/B]. Loma was able get two championship fights after [B]ONE[/B] fight. Pros were predicting Loma would lose to Teo because he didn't have comp. They aren't talking about a great.[/QUOTE]
LMAO. :roll:
nikka please.
casuals gonna casual.
Donaire has one of the most impressive resume among active boxers and a bonafide HOF which means heÂ’s a great one. He went through 5 divisions and beaten The WhoÂ’s who moving up and fought the best competition. Why can you casuals talk in retrospect. Name me an active fighter that has better resume than Donaire? Canelo moves up and cherrypicked 2 weak belt holder . So talk like fight fans talk, who was the fighter he should fough while winning 5 divisions title (according to your logic). He already beaten at least 6 boxers that will eventually make the HOF.
fighters donÂ’t pick Salido in their 2nd fight or Russell and a boogeymen like Walters . Fighters donÂ’t also move up and fought the man at their before their 15th fights. Even ATG that started their pro around Loma age (prime LMAO) never took those kinda risk. The fact that he did means his willingness to fight the best competition available.
Losses meant nothing , only casuals like you trying to magnify because of your casual knowledge . Salido is a respected fighter. Name me a boxer who fought someone as good as him in their 2nd fight?
A top 10 ATG never became a world champion and has many losses. And HeÂ’s not the only ATG with that resume.
again casual name that fighter that has better resume than Loma in their first 16 th fight. :confusedshrug:
I think the consensus on Loma right now is just like the first Joshua - Ruiz fight. Yeah Ruiz won and everyone realized Ruiz was much better than expected. However, most still believes Joshua's the better fighter, although his reputation was reduced by a lot. Loma had an invincibility aura that is obliterated right now, but people believe he's still better than Teo. They need to fight a second time and Teo need to win if he is to really smash these doubts. Loma need a few more convincing wins though if he is to regain his reputation. Or thoroughly school Teo in a 2nd fight.
[QUOTE=iamgine;14180377]I think the consensus on Loma right now is just like the first Joshua - Ruiz fight. Yeah Ruiz won and everyone realized Ruiz was much better than expected. However, most still believes Joshua's the better fighter, although his reputation was reduced by a lot. Loma had an invincibility aura that is obliterated right now, but people believe he's still better than Teo. They need to fight a second time and Teo need to win if he is to really smash these doubts. Loma need a few more convincing wins though if he is to regain his reputation. Or thoroughly school Teo in a 2nd fight.[/QUOTE]
Teo has potentially more exciting match-ups with the other younger stars of the division. He doesn't need to fight Loma again.
People want Teo vs. Tank. Teo vs Haney.